Newbie Mini XII - Page 28

On May 09 2012 16:12 syllogism wrote:
I don't personally think this setup is good for players who haven't played a single game before, maybe the disclaimer should suggest playing a more standard one first (SNMM). It's difficult for even experienced players to ignore DT checks and this one had a completely useless DT. While learning not to rely on roles is an important lesson, I don't think it is a recipe for a fun game that will keep completely new players interested in mafia.

On May 09 2012 20:38 Mattchew wrote:

Dt could have checked anyone but 2 people and got a correct read back... The framer could not frame themselves so they still had a chance on n1 finding half the mafia kp... 1 mislynch from a scum check would also Prove there to be a framer... If anyone had pushed scum reads and town hadnt mass claimed then town woulda most likely won day 3

On May 09 2012 17:34 Ange777 wrote:
Yeah, there was a lot of inactivity and very little scum hunting which made this game quite easy for dahdum and me. But I don't want to complain

I wasn't even sure that Tofu would check Gummy instead was afraid I'd get checked that night. Surprisingly it worked.

I would love some advice on my play. Thanks!

On May 09 2012 21:41 paschl wrote:
Tbh i think it might figure into the cops decision whom to check.
And maybe its different here but people who claim mafia can never be allowed to live through the game.
If only to avoid the postgame "haha i was mafia, claimed mafia and still won".

On May 09 2012 12:42 FirmTofu wrote:
Ah, sigh. It was a coinflip. I bet against the possibility of framer because I saw a high probability chance that I would lynch Gummy if an innocent popped up had I checked someone else.

Honestly, I didn't believe Gummy was mafia until I got a guilty on him. Then, I forced myself to rationalize the check and convince everyone else to vote for him.

Like everyone was saying, you can't rely on the detective all the time, we've gotta be scumhunting too. Gummy threw me off completely and I never really recovered even though I had Ange high on my scum list day 2.

Any tips for me to improve?

On May 09 2012 21:51 zelblade wrote:


That usually doesnt happen. Than again usually no one claims mafia -_-

On May 09 2012 21:54 marvellosity wrote:


You might call claiming mafia a 'suboptimal' play

On May 09 2012 20:41 syllogism wrote:

It's not a correct check because the target could still be a gf/framed. As soon as a framer flips or actually even earlier when town realizes that there is no roleblocker. Nothing wrong with the setup, I just think complete new player games shouldn't have to take such things into account. Towns in these games are always going to believe a green check and similarly a red check, no matter what, as long as the DT himself isn't suspicious.

Towns in new player games already have a disadvantage due to good analysis being sparse, I don't think it's necessary to mislead them with roles too. I suppose having a few experienced players in these games could help.