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On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote: ##vote: Katina SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself! On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote: Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now. ##unvote Katina NEVERMIND, they're onto me! ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. | ||
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On May 03 2012 12:39 papapanda wrote: You better not unvote or else people will think you are just sheeping Blazinghand! I am going to ##vote blubbdavid as a placeholder for now in case I miss the voting deadline tomorrow. Goodnight. What the hell are you talking about? If you're having a hard time digesting my first post I can try chewing it for you? How about this: I am voting grush because he refuses, yes refuses, to explain why he is doing anything he is doing. All he does is vote, unvote, apologize. That's all I expect scum to do. You are number 2 on my suspicion list Mr. papapanda. I hope you have a good rest. | ||
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People who don't explain their actions by definition have a secret agenda. | ||
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On May 03 2012 14:09 Nova_Terra wrote: Hihi, just got up, had like 5 pages to go through already I cant help but think grush57s move was too dumb for a scum to make. Unless theres some day 1 bus plan going on. Also blubbs "slip" doesnt mean anything. I can't help but think grush57's move was too dumb for town to make. "2 dumb 2 be scum" isn't a pardon. It doesn't even make sense. | ||
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On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Sinesis rolled scum. On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote: SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself! NEVERMIND, they're onto me! ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on." Good Day 1 lynch. ##vote sinesis Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]" I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care. grush57 did it occur to you that if you are innocent, you don't need to apologize when you explain why you were doing what you were doing? Being apologetic usually means someone has something to be apologetic about, if you know what I mean. I also don't know where you get off thinking your posts are funny; they're not. | ||
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I want to talk now about layabout and why I think he's suspicious. On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote: Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote: Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote: I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote: I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun. Nobody died yet. But don't worry. what On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote: extended days?! hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game You spend a lot of time defending Katina, you also say the only way she is suspicious is "the way in which she puts attention on BM." You defend her again here: On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote: + Show Spoiler + Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence. I do not think we should lynch katina. Do other people think that this is BS? On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote: I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM. (I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far) ##Vote Layabout //Dirk You also ask what other people think of SomethingAwesome's "BS." I think SomethingAwesome might have been onto something honestly. The first thing you said in the entire game was that you were AGAINST policy lynches and that "they are no better this game than they ever were before" On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies. We are going to be polite in this game. We are going to vote at appropriate times. We are going to act in town's interest's using methods that are simple and explainable. And we are going to destroy red. You then completely disregard your own advice not to policy lynch (below) and vote Bill Murry, who Katina was supposedly suspicious for bringing attention to. Also, if you're not even going to follow the advice you posted not to policy lynch... what was the point in posting that in the first place other than to look like you were contributing when you really weren't? On May 04 2012 07:35 layabout wrote: BH you are just bitter because you blew your own leg off after you tried to rocket jump with the wrong boots on. I think killing something awesome could be a good move. If we still have no candidates when i get up then i think we should just lynch BM. So you think killing SomethingAwesome could be a good move, presumably because you think he's scum. But instead of building a case around SomethingAwesome, you decide to vote BM based on meta. since we still have no real candidate ##vote Bill Murray reasons: anti-town when town anti-town when scum lurks a lot when he is active he is disruptive Who are you to decide if there "is no real candidate?" There were plenty of people with plenty of reads at the time. You even repeat this: We have nobody that looks like scum. This is the best way to use the lynch. Then you repeat it again: Look how few votes the candidate have Look how weak the cases are Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote See how unlikely we are to hit mafia Lynch a player that will be anti town either way. Vote BillMurray Last thing, there is no such thing as an anti-town town member. If someone is town, just by being alive they are helping town. Killing an "anti-town" town member is still killing a town member. Killing town players because they "aren't useful anyway" or "are anti town" is scum logic. | ||
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Also I am still suspicious of papapanda but do not consider him as high a priority as to focus on him right now. | ||
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On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote: I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance. + Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] + On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote: Cool, lets's go Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty. Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him. Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he? :3 All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote: If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around. People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so. Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment. -D This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH. BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people. And his D1 vote: goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't." I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment. | ||
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What are your expert veteran pro reads on layabout? | ||
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I am still probably going to vote layabout today but at the rate things are going, I wouldn't mind hitting Nova_Terra if consolidation needs to happen. Papapanda is a lesser priority right now, but people should still have eyes on him. | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:37 Nova_Terra wrote: I find blubb leaning slightly scum actually, as his filter is a mass of 1 liners which barely say anything of note and defense of himself. I do find it strange that he isnt pushing me if he is scum, because im an obvious target and it would be a super ez town lynch. Jesus man you call that a defense? Defense implies defending yourself, not incriminating yourself. | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:39 Nova_Terra wrote: ^ I dont think the problem is making scummy posts in my case, i think its just lack of posts WELL IF YOU THINK THAT THEN YOU ARE WRONG :D | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:55 PaqMan wrote: I did read your filter and your only FoS so far is on layabout. And please explain this: Can you not read? I'll read it for you. It means I don't like basing decisions on information outside of the game... but that having played with mattchew/D before lots of confrontational 1 liners seems normal for town play. I go on to say that I am null on him and that there are other priorities to consider first. | ||
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. .. ... Looks like it's Nova_Terra ##vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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I want to point out DoYouHas's last post before he got hit: On May 09 2012 03:32 DoYouHas wrote: I'm finding myself in a similar boat to SA. With blubb gone I see so many people with good potential for being scum. Johnny, layabout, nova, KP. I haven't even looked hard into Eiii or I10f. And ghost fits in there somewhere as well. I feel pretty comfortable picking our next lynch from the group of Johnny, layabout, nova, and KP. I'm going to need to do some serious reviewing before I know which I want to lynch over the others though. I know that a number of you have already picked your pony for d3 (probably because I usurped you with the blubb train) but I would really appreciate it if we could present complete cases for d3 to work from. Even if that means you are repeating points from earlier in the game. The recent posts on Johnny and layabout are a nice step in this direction. I think the bolded statements are why mafia killed him. He was onto what may be the rest of their team. Something else I noticed from reading filters: On May 06 2012 05:37 slOosh wrote: He spends some time with blubbdavid incident, concludes that what he did (asking powerrole) is scummy but then moves onto Grush, fosing him for "obvious reasons". Clearly pushing along BM wagon, with reasons like not because he is scum. Could be residual stress from LIII so not totally conclusive. Has responded unreasonably aggressively to pressure. Conclusion: Probably scum. This is the last thing sloosh said before he was killed... this post points toward jwup too. I am going to go through jwup's filter and see if I can find anything of interest. | ||
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If you're scum why didn't you deflect attention onto an easier target like layabout? Is layabout your scum buddy? Why didn't you deflect attention onto layabout anyway, do you think he's town? If you are town and you have been suspecting papapanda for a while now, why didn't you say something about it before everyone was on your back asking for contribution? You could have at least mentioned you were suspicious of him and that would have counted for a small contribution. | ||
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On May 10 2012 05:58 Nova_Terra wrote: also sin, i am really neutral as to layabout now. his defense of himself seems relatively genuine. It seems genuine relative to what? Relative to the fact that he's scum? Yeah I agree he did an okay job. Doesn't mean his time hasn't come. | ||
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  :D!##vote: layabout | ||
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The more I think about it though, nothing N_T does benefits scum... or town... or himself, so I am struggling here too. Do I choose the guy who talks nicer (layabout) or the guy who helps the enemy less (N_T)? | ||
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I would like to talk before night ends about some people I think are getting a free ride, that don't deserve it. I am anticipating focus being on grush and N_T, but there are two others that need some looking at. First I will look at papapanda: On May 03 2012 10:15 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + My guess is that grush is semi-lurker and just have been reading/agreeing/sheeping with what information that has/hasnot been posted by you. At first I would've have passed off the blue/green slip from blubbdavid as misreading because I can imagine myself accidentally misreading/mis-pronouncing blue/green. But from his defensive post i have to be a little suspicious. On May 03 2012 07:55 blubbdavid wrote: One post on D1 doesn't make someone scum. Even if I probably deserve a warning for my stupidity. Will defend myself tomorrow, it's late here. And if it is even worth it. And when you vote, please use the proper thread. It is reasonable to vote for blubb if no one else comes out with major slip-ups, and the town has to lynch someone. Otherwise I would sit back and wait for N1 or D2 when more information might be available. Me is hardcore BLU! Went ahead and bolded everything I have a problem with. This is his first post in the whole thread. What is see is a paranoid mess. Papapanda uses a slash every time he says something serious because he wants to make sure he has covered all his bases/been as nonspecific as possible/has chosen the best sounding/most town-like voice possible/see why this is convoluted and a horrible way to express yourself? Your scum team probably told you to cut it out with all the wishy-washy slashes after your first post, and you appear to have listened as this is the only time you talk like that. Also, never while playing town seriously would I ever say I am "hardcore town." You don't need an adjective to describe how town you are unless you aren't town. On May 03 2012 11:12 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 10:17 SomethingAwesome wrote: ^^ -mattchew Now are you newb or scum? He was neither, and this question accomplishes nothing. On May 03 2012 11:21 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + >_< My fault. As you can see, I am newb. Makes apologetic face. Apologizes. Apologizes again. Claims to be noob. Scummy. On May 03 2012 12:39 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote: ##vote: grush57 I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people. You better not unvote or else people will think you are just sheeping Blazinghand! I am going to ##vote blubbdavid as a placeholder for now in case I miss the voting deadline tomorrow. Goodnight. After I vote for grush, papapanda decides to call me out... or something... saying I am suspicious of sheeping Blazinghand if I change my vote? Uh, whether I am sheeping Blazinghand or not (I wasn't), what does changing my vote have to do with anything? On May 05 2012 05:23 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Blazinghand: I hate to be stepping into your line of fire, but I didn't find NT's post to be as bad as you make it sound like it is. Actually, I found that many of the points he made was very similar to the ones I tried to make. I agree with you on "too dumb to be scum" is not an argument at all but I also do not believe grush to be scum, even though he isn't helping much (blubbdavid, I said this in my previous post but this is basically all my thought on grush as of now). In fact, I share NT's suspicion of sinensis, and I assure you this is not just OMGUS. My original comment was just to get him to further explain his vote because he actually didn't say anything before his second response. I was shocked at what I believe to be an over-defensive reaction, one that might be coming from having something to hide, from sin. Given, he did provide sufficient evidence of reasoning, but he's accusation of me can hardly be called a read(from yourself, blazinghand). I am still undecided on a vote. I have some gut feelings about a few persons but no evidence to base that off of. Yeah, I probably wouldn't like stepping into BH's line of fire as scum too. Lets look at the BM lynch, you didn't support it: On May 05 2012 06:01 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 05:56 grush57 wrote: We only have an hour left, I have a feeling BM might be modkilled and so will several others, most days end at around 9pm est not 6. Since he will be modkilled anyway, shouldn't we lynch someone else? This question is for everyone voting BM You're against it again: On May 05 2012 06:05 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 05:57 johnnywup wrote: don't rely on modkills, thats not chivalrous lol. if we want to lynch someone we lynch them, we don't leave it up to chance that they don't post and vote last minute. They would also have to post here to not get modkilled. You want us to use a vote on someone who has less than an hour to post based on his previous reputation. Actually, I am dissatisfied with people that are in more than one game, especially in XIII (and not even some minimafia...etc). Another option is to lynch you, johnnywup, and save you from having to play both games. Against it again: On May 05 2012 06:08 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + If BM haven't posted, we can assume he hasn't been on the thread. Now you might say maybe he planned to post last second... If BM hasn't been on this thread, he would not have known that the voting/posting deadline has been extended by 60 minutes. Therefore he did not intentionally wait until now. Starting to see a pattern? You're against lynching BM again: On May 05 2012 06:09 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 06:06 Nova_Terra wrote: This is like a Hey look at me, im active and useful and shame on you all for doing wrong! I apologize for saying I want to lynch you for being in two games. What I meant to say is I want to lynch you for trying to waste D1 vote on someone who will die anyways. But wait, what now? On May 05 2012 06:12 papapanda wrote: You're right, I'm wrong again>< Ok, I will be open to lynching BM-_- Apologizes, apologetic face, suddenly BM is a good lynch? Once BM flipped town, you explained for vote for him... but not the sudden switch: On May 05 2012 13:06 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina. I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM. On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote: BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity. 1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough. 2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy. 3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me. I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue. Basically: FoS on marvellosity HERE IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING; so you believe mafia lynched BM because they had a plan for lynching veterans who are slightly inactive, i.e. easy targets? I know I saw something like this in the thread the day before, let me see if I can find it again: On May 03 2012 22:31 papapanda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 21:46 blubbdavid wrote: papapanda, unable to even graps that he has a bit more time than just one day, ready to sacrifice me although there are better options like grush. Till now, I have have defended myself better than grush, but papanda is willing to forgive grush for his action because he could be a semi-lurker. Like SA pointed out, reading minds for others, especially at such an early stage of the game is scummy. ##vote grush57 *Looks hard to find blubbdavid's defense* On May 03 2012 08:11 blubbdavid wrote: The confusing thing is that in a sense vanilla townies are also blue roles, just without power. I wanted to ask Ken whether he had a powerrole or not. A 1.2 line defense? Only a little better than grush. Some of us are obviously more seasoned than others. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I play with you before in my first game? The way I see it is when we have two suspicious guys, I would lynch the more experienced person because there is less possibility that his mistakes are due to the fact that he was careless or ignorant. So the way you see it is that when there are two suspicious guys, lynch the veteran (i.e. Bill Murray)? That doesn't make any sense to me especially since you are a new player here and have no way of knowing who the vets are, not to mention it is not town-like to vote someone just because they are more experienced. I have never heard a town player say "We should lynch HIM because he has MORE experience!" | ||
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On May 11 2012 13:45 l10f wrote: Posting his reads on me != wanting me to be investigated. You can, if you want, but you won't find anything because I'm town. At least, I haven't done anything that would make anyone think I'm scum. Anyway, it looks like I was right all along, scum is in Eiii/marv/grush. Eiii most likely. Like I said, I don't suspect you as mafia because of your actions, it's just the way you word things. Take what you said, the bolded part; "at least." Your most recent post too, here: On May 11 2012 13:53 l10f wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Here's a 100% objective view of the situation. 1 is most likely scum 11 is most likely town. 1. Eiii 2. marvellosity 3. grush57 4. papapanda 5. PaqMan 6. Nova_Terra 7. Sinensis 8. l10f 9. Mementoss 10. froggynoddy 11. Blazinghand Let's just lynch in this order and win? "100% objective view?" Do you know what game you are playing? There is no 100% objective view in mafia. Objective to what? You have no facts to base your objective opinion on, unless you're mafia. When you are mafia you have to keep your objectivity or else your true agenda shows. | ||
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On May 12 2012 07:13 Nova_Terra wrote: Cases and posts against Eiii are at least convincing enough to warrant his vote. Therefore, i would like to see how he flips for info. I am sick of seeing scummy, zero effort posts like this from N_T. His posting has been a huge issue in the thread ever since day 1. I am putting l10f and papapanda on the back burner until N_T is dead. -I am going to vote N_T until he is dead- (I WILL BOLD IT SINCE NO ONE LISTENS TO ME NORMALLY) ##vote: Nove_Terra If you flip town I don't know what I believe anymore. | ||
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part 1: There is a reason people call out people who are being wishy-washy. It isn't some sophisticated code of honor in the mafia forums. The reason for avoiding being wishy-washy with posts is because it is text book mafia behavior. part 2: Your explanation was that you were wrong because you were wrong... I don't know how else to discredit your explanation better than you already have. part 3: Sorry I thought I was playing with people who were logical enough to see problems with someone who just types "##vote: <screen_name>" and expects that to be okay. part 4: Your entire justification is wrong. You were against voting Bill Murray one minute, then you voted him literally 10 IRL minutes later. No excuse. part 5: HOW DOES LYNCHING SOMEONE TO GAIN INFORMATION MAKE SENSE IF YOU ARE TOWN? Answer that and let me embarrass you. My analysis of l10f isn't ridiculous. If you weren't so hell bent on appearing like mafia I would have room to focus on l10f. | ||
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On May 13 2012 20:33 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure what is so bad about someone looking into a dead townie's suspicions. And while Sinensis' look at l10f was brief, looking at the use of language isn't a bad way to analyse someone's posts. Question back to you, papapanda: did you actually read what I wrote on l10f last page? And Mementoss' case? And do you agree or not, and why for both cases? Sinensis: I don't know how you go from to What's up with this? I am voting for N_T because of his garbage filter and because he wants to lynch for information. Papapanda just said he wants to lynch for information and agreed with N_T, the guy I want to lynch, that lynching for information makes sense. You don't have a problem with Blazinghand seemingly agreeing with me? | ||
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On May 13 2012 23:09 marvellosity wrote: Um, we may be misunderstanding Sinensis. You're voting N_T today but you plan to vote papapanda next day cycle, is that what you mean? I read 'tomorrow' in your post as calendar tomorrow, not game cycle tomorrow. While you're here, what do you think of the cases on l10f? I meant I was planning to vote Papapanda the next day cycle... but I'm not 100% positive I am sticking with that anymore. He's still one of my top choices, I just need a bit to think about some other people before I commit. I wasn't expecting N_T to flip town. | ||
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1. I voted both N_T and layabout when it was time for their lynch. Flipping a coin between the two was my way of deciding which to try and lynch FIRST. 2. In both those cases, the ones on papapanda and l10f, I concluded that bother were suspicious. Maybe you missed the multitude of times I called each scum/mafia. Also, did you seriously just scold me for posting reads? Why am I being called out for posting reads? 3. You accuse me of narrating. It helps me to narrate from a person's perspective to gain insights on what I would do in their situation, to check and see if they have similar motivations as me. Someone who says: "We should lynch someone in order to gain information on who to lynch next." DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME MOTIVATIONS AS ME. (referring to N_T and papapanda) | ||
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Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience. | ||
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I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling. Though now that I think about it grush has been alive for an awfully long time considering he claimed blue so early, also probably the weakest filter left. Be back after work in 6 hours. | ||
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There's no way mafia would have hit some of the people that got hit before grush if he was town. l10f and papapanda are talking too much right now to justify voting them when grush is still around. I'm going to put my vote on grush. I'm still waiting for PaqMan to ask me questions if he has them, if you want to just vote for me though that's fine too. Your loss. | ||
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On May 17 2012 10:03 grush57 wrote: GEEET SENESISSS If I get lynched before this guy... shame on everyone. | ||
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On May 18 2012 06:05 marvellosity wrote: Those 2 posts are weird as shit next to each other. From my perspective we are lynching into grush, sinensis, and froggynoddy. As Sinensis wanted direct questions: Paqman has in his case(s) against you pointed out where you said that it was easy to bandwagon on to Nova, but you were also willing to vote for him. Why did you say he was easy to bandwagon on to and then say you were happy to bandwagon on to him? Were you there when nova was posting? He was an easy target for a reason. His posting was abysmal. Is there anyone who hasn't voted nova at some point during the game for his poor play? And about my grush vote since that seems to be the other question: I just feel like the fact that grush has been alive so long after claiming town is unusual. In most games, at least the limited number I've played, people don't usually live long after a role claim because they get mobbed. Not to mention he's not exactly an asset. If that's bad logic, correct me please. I feel like he's the best target. Many now confirmed town have agreed in the past. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 18 2012 06:59 papapanda wrote: Grush is not the ideal target anymore. Him not being an asset was THE reason he was put up for lynch. He was an easy target, so the mafia would most likely keep him alive, which means he is most likely town. Therefore in LYLO, we should not lynch grush. That's awfully presumptuous of you. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
"GEEEET SENENESISIS" | ||
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Sinensis
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On May 18 2012 13:02 PaqMan wrote: Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker. + Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] + On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote: Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote: Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me. Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments. Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit. Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier. In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town). You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever. I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum. now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw! I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also. theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker. My results for tracking since N1 are as follows: + Show Spoiler [track results] + N1: I tracked SlOosh, no actions made. N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made. N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made. N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked! N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made. The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away. The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people. The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving. This basically clears Sinensis as VT. The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy. Two of them are scum. I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch. I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus. Wait a minute, PaqMan, if you tracked me night 4 and saw that I was roleblocked... why did you vote for me to get lynched the 5th day? And why would you track me again night 5? This claim is really, really suspicious. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
I'm placing my vote on you until you respond. ##Vote: PaqMan | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
##Vote: grush57 Is anyone going to yell at me if I just vote for him and leave it at that? I don't really have much to analyze. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 19 2012 04:31 froggynoddy wrote: You have no say in this scum. All your voting and reasoning has been terrible. If town believe you now then we deserve to lose. If we believe papa and Paqman's claims (IMO 99%; 80% likelihoods respectively) then all I can say is that marv/grush scum team is 90% certain with an outside chance of a Grush/sinensis scum team (in the case where sinensis is the roleblocker who for some reason or other decided not to act on N5; this could be because the other scum has better power or just due to human error... I realise this is unlikely though). Going on my (I'll admit somewhat arbitrary) probabilities I'd have to vote for Grush today and hope I can convince enough of you tomorrow (game tomorrow that is). I'm getting up at 4am tomorrow to ref national bball school finals up north... My last game is at 4pm GMT so I should be able to visit the thread before lynch. Am going to bed now, but all I can say is that right now we are at LYLO and we have to vote who we think is almost certainly scum and for me, without a shadow of a doubt, that is Grush. Froggy what does the red text mean? | ||
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