Newbie Mini Mafia IX

On April 16 2012 04:10 Therapist. wrote:
Those are different subjects in my opinion. No one's saying not to vote and pressure and get things going and vote for people if they're not defending themselves. What if everyone posts up and makes a defense for themselves and all the day one pressure votes have achieved what they can achieve. What's the next move?

On April 16 2012 04:49 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also I'm going to let Solohan50 find out what i find scummy about his own post and do something about it. If a vanilla townie looks at someones post and finds it scummy, theoretically another vanilla townie should be able to do the same. Im not gonna tell you how to defend yourself.

On April 17 2012 02:41 BlueyD wrote:
Oh hey, of course TheRavensName posts 2 minutes before I call him inactive and I don't see it in time. XD

I'll keep the vote on you for now, though. You posted opinions but not justifications.

On April 17 2012 03:31 Nova_Terra wrote:
Did someone edit? fun

On April 17 2012 06:09 Macheji wrote:
##Vote: Nova_Terra

On April 17 2012 19:21 Pure-SC2 wrote:
The lynching of innocent townie oneplus

It's a sad night, knowing an innocent townie was lynced and that it could have been prevented. I've spent some time reviewing how oneplus ended up getting lynched and have the following analysis.


The initial pressure vote on oneplus - voted in order to get more post activity:
- Pure-SC2 (Pressure vote - removed later when I made my case against Nova and voted for him)
- BlueyD (Pressure vote - removed but stated he was still suspicious, moved vote to TheRavensName as he was lurking)


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Following these votes, oneplus identifies a link between Lazermonkey and Nova which provokes a strong reaction from them both and a very interesting back and forth conversation occurs here. I'd recommend everyone re-read this knowing now that oneplus is a townie.

It was after this exchange that I posted my case against Nova, and had independently identified a link between Lazer and Nova.

Once the dust settled on Lazermonkeys quick vote flip onto Nova (following my case and association between Nova and Lazer), he initiates the vote that leads to oneplus's lynching.

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The votes on oneplus that lead to his lynching:

- Lazermonkey (April 17 2012 04:04):
This is the initial vote on oneplus following the pressure vote. Summary of his reasoning is:
- Oneplus gets super mad accusing both him and Nova with no reasoning (Ed: he quotes oneplus saying that Nova's defending doesn't make sense at all, something I agree with. KEYNOTE: In Lazer's post he responds to this quote as if oneplus said it to him, when he actually said it to Nova. Why is he responding to something said to Nova? This post needs further analysis).
- That oneplus will think of him and Nova as scum regardless of what they say
- Quotes FourFace/Lorant's bizarre purposefully silly post (which was from his smurf account) as evidence that other people think oneplus is strange. (Ed. Lorant, did you think oneplus was strange?)
- Concludes that he is not sure whether oneplus is bad or scum, makes an association between oneplus and Lorant and states that lynching oneplus would give info about Lorant (though calls him durant which is confusing).

- TheRavensName (April 17 2012 05:17):
Little over an hour after Lazermonkeys vote described above, TheRavensName votes oneplus. His reasoning:
- "Sorry One... You seem to be the more likely of a scum then the others with votes in my eyes... and at least Nova has contributed enough to warrant being spared the first lynch in my opinion."

- Therapist (April 17 2012 05:25):
Less than 10 minutes later, Therapist adds his vote to Oneplus. His reasoning:
- He does not wish Nova to be lynched because he is bringing out information and is good for town.
- Oneplus has contributed nothing but a bandwagon on Nova Terra (Ed: Did you even read his posts? He suspected Nova before I posted my case and identified a link between Nova and Lazer)

- Nova_Terra (April 17 2012 05:28):
Three minutes later, Nova adds his vote to oneplus. His reasoning:
- "okay, i will relent on solohan for now to consolidate a decent vote."

- Crossfire99 (April 17 2012 05:45):
17 minutes later, Crossfire adds his vote to oneplus (it's not bold, but obviously he's voting for oneplus. His reasoning:
- He doesn't think oneplus is scum, but he also doesn't think Nova is scum. Since Nova has been actively contributing, he is going to vote oneplus to save Nova. (Ed: Interesting choice of words if you read his post. He is voting for someone he doesn't believe is scum to save Nova).

- BlueyD (April 17 2012 05:49):
4 minutes later, BlueyD provides a vote count, and adds his vote to oneplus. His reasoning:
- It's between Nova and oneplus (useless keeping his vote on anyone else), and he's got more suspicions on oneplus than Nova.

- Daymor (April 17 2012 05:58):
9 minutes later, Daymor adds his vote to oneplus. His reasoning:
- He has his suspicions on Nova, but thinks he's contributed enough to spare him from a day 1 lynch.
- He consolidates the vote on oneplus to prevent any last minute switching. (Ed. He doesn't say he has any suspicions on oneplus).

- Crossfire99 (April 17 2012 06:00):
2 minutes later Crossfire unvotes oneplus, and then votes him again in the same post.
- What on earth is this? His vote is already on oneplus and I can't for the life of me work out what this means, other than it looks very odd to me. I'd be interested in what anyone else thinks on this. Note: The time of this post was right at the expected deadline at the time it was made - the mods clarified that it was actually another 2 hours until the deadline.

- TheRavensName (April 17 2012 07:47):
13 minutes before the deadline, TheRavensName removes his vote from oneplus, and votes Nova. His reasoning:
- At this point he believes Lazer and Nova are working together, and changes his vote unless something else can convince him in the next 15 minutes.



The day ends, and innocent townie oneplus is lynched with 6 votes.

Of the 6 people that voted for him:
- Four have stated no scum related reason for voting oneplus (Daymor, Crossfire, Nova, Therapist)
- One is not sure whether he is scum or bad town (Lazermonkey)
- One is more suspicious of him than of Nova (BlueyD)

Of the 6 people that voted for him, 4 of them did not have any scum related reasons for voting oneplus. That is a very disappointing realisation. He certainly wasn't a lurker when you consider his input over the 59 (?) hour day.

Of the 6 people that voted for him, I have strong town leanings towards 2 of them, mild town leanings towards 1 of them, mild scum leanings on 1 of them and strong scum readings on 2 of them.

That's my analysis of what happened that led to oneplus's lynch.

He was an easy target because of his poor English. Please go and re-read his posts, look at his interactions with others and do your own analysis, then post it for everyone to see.

On April 17 2012 14:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
Also, TheRavensName switched from oneplus because he thought that lazin and i are a team. What? i've been posting analysis on his scummy posts and we have been frequently referencing eachother which is a scummy thing to do. And hes my best scumread. your argument for switching doesnt hold much it seems. Thats scummy.

On April 19 2012 05:24 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hmm. welcome back lazer. Please try to prepare a case/ analysis on somebody other than solo, if you can. it would be most appreciated.

On April 20 2012 08:59 Daymor wrote:
If TheRavensName gets modkilled I figure town lose.