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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 09 2012 17:35 GMT
#19
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United States311 Posts
April 10 2012 20:08 GMT
#54
/out as well, not accepted and don't want to get accepted and not check back~
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 12 2012 17:35 GMT
#118
Well.. I'm on the list.. so I'm glad I checked back!! I'll retract my out, and see what happens here~ Been getting antsy without a game to play for a couple days...
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 04:17 GMT
#211
Hey guys,
What sort of criteria are we looking for in our captain? Or is this one of those things where the wittiest person gets our votes? Right now I'm doing more of a "I won't vote for this person" sort of thing.. and the people I won't be voting for are Zentor, Michaelthe, sandroba and Node. The rest of you guys are fair game!!

As for why they got on my "Don't vote" list

Zentor- Weird slip there.. I honestly don't believe that it was a scumslip, but I'm not going to take any chances on Day 1.
Michaelthe: The whole "random number" thing really made me /huh. So no chance he'll be the captain of my space ship. (that sounds sexual...)
Sandroba: The whole "lets add each other on skype" and planning just sounds kind of sneaky....
Node: "I'm determined to play better" is great! However, you sound a bit guilty, so not gonna get my vote.

I just want to warn everyone early on- I'm a list maker.. so I apologize... I really find that its the best way to organize my thoughts in an easy to reference way.. I hate walls of text, so the list seems to be the best system for me. (I will keep them short)..
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#233
On April 13 2012 13:32 sandroba wrote:
@maverick Fuck you got me. I'm trying to SNEAKILY get you to add me on skype muahahaha.
So that's the reason I got on your "don't vote list". Makes perfect sense. For real dude?


This is the first game I've played that has allowed outside chat, So maybe it's common practice... To me though...I don't see much point to just start randomly communicating on Skype or otherwise.... Either way, it's day 1, and I'm simply pointing out things that caused me hesitation in voting.

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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 12:28 GMT
#242
[QUOTE]On April 13 2012 20:43 sandroba wrote:
Is this the first time you played mafia, however? How is willingness to talk to anyone or trying to get plans into motion a scum trait or untrustworthy? Also that's the literal opposite of sneaky. Your reasoning just doesn't make sense, first time with pms or not. You just got basically anyone who ever proposed to be captain andfound a random reason for them to be a bad voQUOTE]

It is not my first Mafia game... If you want to talk or get plans in motion... Why not just do it here?

And there are plenty of people who have put themselves up for a vote and I haven't said no to.. you're creating a mountain from a mole hill....

Also for the people saying they don't know what the captain does...he atleast chooses the first Lynch...
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 12:29 GMT
#243
Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 12:36 GMT
#245
Not using ellipsis!?!? /Gasp

No promises on that.

I'll run for Captain... My policy: a vote. We can hold a public vote here...majority or anyone who chooses not to vote will get killed. Keeping it simple.
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#287
I would like our future captain to be Democratic in their Lynch...

This makes it alot less likely for the power to be abused by Mafia..
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 15:11 GMT
#296
And one person who goes off their day 1 reads is better?

So if they Lynch a townie they can just shrug their shoulders?

A Democratic approach allows us to view everyone's scum hunting ability.. not just the captain..

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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 15:13 GMT
#299
How are people viewing sandroba as 'confirmed town'...

Serious question... Cause he is coming off really suspicious to me...
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 15:16 GMT
#302
Scum hunting was the wrong word apparently... And I guess stances fit better... I don't see how giving one person that authority to kill anyone is better then allowing a group to decide... Especially since you'd be forcing everyone to give their stance... Instead of just focusing on one person.
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 15:17 GMT
#305
On April 14 2012 00:14 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 00:11 Maverick32x wrote:
And one person who goes off their day 1 reads is better?

So if they Lynch a townie they can just shrug their shoulders?

A Democratic approach allows us to view everyone's scum hunting ability.. not just the captain..


Yes, yes it is, because we all still have to tell him who we would like to see lynched. If they lynch a townie, they have a ton of pressure on them, since they made a bad call, and we can dismantle their reasoning.

Everyone still has to scumhunt and try to present a case that the captian is going to see and say "fuck, he's right", but that way we don't have scum lynching an easy target who everyone agrees "is acting scummy" with no consequences.



Well... That is a good point. I guess that hinges on people's ability to give reads.
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#335
@tailsmaina-

I like the idea of posting PMs to be able to track who is talking to who. Currently the only person who has PM'ed me is Acrofales- and it was to inquire as to why I thought Sandroba was suspicious. I responded that I didn't like his role fishing.

As for candidates, lets try to get a list together and get some commitement out of people!
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 13 2012 21:35 GMT
#368
I'll be sticking with GMarshal. I liked his response to my "democracy" discussion, and I agree with his points. Apparently he is also a big deal around these parts, so I'm sure that will be helpful to give him a somewhat elevated role. (assuming he's not scum)
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 14 2012 15:29 GMT
#467
Hey guys,
Okay!! Couple things- I'm not in the "PM Club" so here is my skype info: Maverick32x. I feel out of the loop with all of these "Secret PM" stuff thats going on...

As for scum reads, obviously the ninja voters and lurkers are number 1 candidates... but I'd also like to focus on Kurumi, who I think is on the right track.. and I'm wondering how people got some heated up about him so quickly?

I know Acro stated he felt it was just a proxy way to attack Sand and GM.. but I really think that there was so worthwhile information. So.. ya, I'd like to keep an eye on layabout after that exchange~
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#578
Ok, hold on.. I'm confused by what Dr. said..

So Froggy is definitely town.. but the clue ( The stubborn lovers speak. M A N C J) doesn't indicate alignment?

I'm watching NASL, but I'll try to goof around with the clue a bit to see if I make any progress~
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 15 2012 02:35 GMT
#588
On April 15 2012 11:10 talismania wrote:
GM:

Why didn't you attempt to ask people for their reads on froggy and your other candidates prior to your election? You were in the clear lead for a while and had ample opportunity to collect reads that would have made your lynching useful, even if (as it happens) froggy came back green.

Did you have to make the lynch immediately? If not, why did you choose to do it immediately.

Did you at least tell froggy that if you were elected, you were most likely going to lynch him no matter what to give him a change to A) roleclaim or B) itemclaim? It should not have been incumbent on froggy in that situation to know for sure that he was going to be lynched, despite the fact that he was number one on your list.


I am a little disappoint in GM for not saying something first...

However, I understand the reasoning of "the captain makes the decision"... but I guess I would of liked a bit more of a conversation... I know I had an exchange with him about the democracy vs. dictatorship.. so I expect to see him take responsibility for this lynch and to try to tell us a bit more about what made his decision!
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 15 2012 05:44 GMT
#599
Michaelthe- you are my number 1 scum read at the moment.

You are very dismissive of any comments towards you.

You want me to comment on some stupid minor issue that no one cares about?
I've stated already that I think day 1 and day 1 cases are friggen retarded, so if you want to comment on stupid squabbles on day 1, sorry.
Try and read a bit better. I stated my reason quiet clearly why I think he is the best candidate. Let me break it down as I would for a child, though with less effort, since teaching children actually takes effort:

Now if you'd excuse me, I just read Im either asian or don't get a f*** in the lol game im about to play for not paying attention after picking, I wonder if I effed up summoners.

I'm reading this as "I'm highly confrontational, don't say anything negative to me or I will strike back.. and quickly retreat" You don't actually MAKE a case, besides calling the other person stupid for disagreeing...

You got caught with your flip-floppery and I think right now you are trying to squirm your way out as fast as possible.
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 16 2012 23:58 GMT
#779
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?

I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....

Back on track-

I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...

One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 17 2012 11:56 GMT
#809
On April 17 2012 14:47 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 09:32 EchelonTee wrote:
prplhz, I have never ever known you to play a lurky town style. You have literally posted nothing and as a semi-vet this is a glaring big red flag. I propose a prplhz lynch because he has done nothing which is utterly strange for him. And then he sheeps on MrZentor with 0 reasoning. Regardless of MrZ's alignment, prplhz absence is scummy.

##Vote prplhz


Nice bandwagon.

##Vote: EchelonTee


This makes NO sense... but lets look at this bandwagon on prplhz...

If anything- Coagulation should be seen as the most suspicious after this exchange.. he jumps right on and targets prplhz, and was a big "lynch Ace" advocate....

And then we still have MrZentor, who I think is bussing prphlz with his meager response/reason for softly going along with a prplhz vote....

That being said, I'm willing to vote for either Zentor or prphlz, whichever will get a lynch...

Have people been talking to prphlz in PMs (outside of the one that was posted)?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#814
On April 17 2012 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?

I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....

Back on track-

I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...

One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'?


Given I was talking to VE's wife, I would dare say I talk to people in PM land. I have a null read on her.

If you had a specific question or questions, I'd love to give answering a bash.



I guess my specific question would be- who are you talking to in PM's and what is your read on them~
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Maverick32x
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United States311 Posts
April 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#816
My vote is going with Coagulation... unnecessary hard lynching on Ace, and major bandwagoning as described above^
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United States311 Posts
April 17 2012 14:30 GMT
#822
On April 17 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 22:57 Maverick32x wrote:
On April 17 2012 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?

I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....

Back on track-

I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...

One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'?


Given I was talking to VE's wife, I would dare say I talk to people in PM land. I have a null read on her.

If you had a specific question or questions, I'd love to give answering a bash.



I guess my specific question would be- who are you talking to in PM's and what is your read on them~


There we go. People I spoke to most were Acro (as others can attest), sandroba, and recently wbg. Also had PM contact with others, perhaps notably zentor and GMarshal early.

Reads for me are... difficult. At the moment I'm liking VE's interrogative stance on the GMarshal/sandroba duo. Early on, it was GMarshal that led me to trust sandroba and claim to sandroba. GMarshal's reasoning was that sandroba's plan that was apparently shot down by DrH was a town thing, plus the sheer amount of effort sandroba was putting in.

What makes me uncomfortable is GMarshal's practically complete absence from the thread since then, eye problems not withstanding.

Regarding zentor, in our (somewhat limited) contact I didn't really get a scummy vibe off him. Somewhat annoyingly, Acro told me to be suspicious of Zentor if Acro died, but supplied me with no reasoning for it.



That kinda makes me nervous..
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United States311 Posts
April 17 2012 19:33 GMT
#852
Ok... I may of just had an epiphany and I'd like others to comment if they've shared this experience...

I've PM'ed back and forth with Sandroba VERY little... but it went like this:

Original Message From sandroba:
Okay did you start off with any items? I got a green check on you.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Maverick32x:
Ok, so I am a Station Researcher... which is pretty much a vanilla town...Also I currently don't have any items


Original Message From sandroba:
Did the host pm'ed you some weird flavour stuff as night 1 event? If he did i need to know who was mentioned in the pm. thx



And that is literally IT. I am not part of the secret PM club... and he offered really nothing back... it really seems like the only thing he is interested in are items and blue roles.... I'd be REALLY curious how his interactions have been with other players....

Also- still waiting on some kind of confirmation that Sandroba had made the decision to kill l1o since my 'town' read pretty much is revolving around that...
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United States311 Posts
April 19 2012 06:45 GMT
#1037
Honestly, I don't think that case against Kurumi is that solid...

I see a lot of connections that you are making..but I don't think a scum would defend their fellow scum-mates that frequently... would be WAY too suspicious....

As for my vote... I'm still reading and such.... which is barely useful based off the thread and how everyone just PMs;;
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United States311 Posts
April 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#1085
So I got a chance to flip through Strongandbig's filters... a couple trends that I noticed-

Constantly apologetic.

Really focused on Zentor... almost obsessively.. However, as others noted- he didn't actually stick a vote on him...


I'm thinking that a lynch on Strongandbig is the way to go, and he is the one I will be voting for. Not to mention a really late switch to Jackal on the last voting...

On a more general note- there was a point where a ton of hate landed on Zentor at almost the same time- Ace pointed this out... Depending on how Strongandbig flips, could indicate Zentor's alignment potentially.
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United States311 Posts
April 20 2012 20:51 GMT
#1128
whhooaa!! Nice shot!! So unexpected....

Also I empathize with you Rayzor..
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United States311 Posts
April 20 2012 21:11 GMT
#1131
Also based of Bug's okay-ness with lynching Strongandbig, I'm willing to change my vote... ET or Sinani I guess are the main people under scrutiny so I'll be checking them out.
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United States311 Posts
April 20 2012 21:14 GMT
#1135
Chaoser- I'm tempted to lean more towards ET than either of those two...

My reasoning is that Sinani and S&B were both voted/encouraged by WBG... Any strong counters to an ET vote?
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United States311 Posts
April 21 2012 05:57 GMT
#1208
yep- this was my first PM.. and 100% my last... I felt like I wasn't even playing ;;

Good to know I was got some good reads though!!

Thanks for the game Dr. H~
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