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VayeshMoru
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VayeshMoru
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On April 19 2012 14:31 Snarfs wrote: I agree it's possible, but I'd still like to know why MrZentor didn't follow up his case with a vote. Seems like he was a little hesitant to back up what I would agree is a good case with his actions, which is a scum move - trying not to stick his neck out too far. If he's town he'll have a good reason though. Vayesh would suggest that anyone heavily suspected of being an alien but is given a chance to prove he is not and fails to follow through would die. As such an alien or crew member would be slightly afraid to start a wagon no? Vayesh thinks this is logical from his com room. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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Vayesh believes our gaze should stay on sinani, strongandbig for now and possibly ET, chaoser, and any one else who seems suspicious later. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 12:27 EchelonTee wrote: yeah, nice pick. how many people know you are you? im assuming the entire scum team, sandro, gm (fucking cheater), and errandor. Anyone smart enough to read mafia 30 would have figured it out as well I think. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 12:30 EchelonTee wrote: GM cheated? lol wat? apologies for playing like a dingus. I wasn't lying when I said personal stuff was kicking me in the rear. He knew it was me and told sandro, or heavily implied to sandro, within like hours of day 1. As I know I was a super late joiner + there were a ton of posts to read overall in xxx, the chances of him speed figuring out are low. More likely that I was IP checked. He could have remembered I was a smurf from ages ago (always possible) but given that no one else in this game did -_- | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 12:36 RayzorFlash wrote: Ohai... I think this is the first mafia game where the team i'm on has actually won then :O Yayyyyyy!!!!! Don't be proud of it. We didn't do well, we broke the game mechanics and thus fucked the mafia who could do nothing to stop it. Sandro and GM for doing this should be ashamed and no one involved in the process of the pm work should be proud either. Beating a mafia team because the game is able to be broken and unwinnable for them is not something any of us should be proud of. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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To be honest drH this game would have been insanely well done had you not included pms. The only setup note I will comment on past that is this. Town should never at any point have 14 power roles if the mafia number is 6. Period. They had to sacrifice kp to use powers, and town had 14 abilities. Town should never have more than 2-3 power roles over mafia # (thats being gracious) but more than double their number is insane. Think of it this way. In one night (given that risk + node both shot twice) they could have day shot, killed two people, night shot killed two people, and mafia shoot two hatters who correctly dropped bombs and mafia lose. Town should never EVER be able to completely win a game that fast. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 12:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: That couldn't have happened. There could have been two shots and a day shot. Town had a pretty bad night 1, most items were given away and then immediately returned, the pharmacist accomplished nothing, Ace didn't learn anything useful from his camera either. i saw two day shots and at least one night shot? thats 3 kp. Correct usage of bombs and bad mafia shots (from your spreadsheet / knowing who actually had bombs) could have killed 3 more. Factor in lynches and again. Did it happen? No. But its way to many powers in the hands of the town. Had mafia's powers been free to use until said player with the power died, or they could use stolen items themselves at no cost it would be much more even. Town may have had a bad night 1, except we still killed a mafia, lynched correctly, then followed up with two shots and a lynch. I also had a bomb placed correctly thus ensuring my own safety or they lose another member. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If PMs were absent from the game, the incident with sandroba wouldn't have happened which made things admittedly difficult for the mafia but don't pretend you played everything perfectly WBG. I don't appreciate you implying that I would have fucked it all up as mafia either or when you told me straight up you think I'm low enough to lie about the setup and would believe sandrobas estimate of the game over what I'm telling you as the mod. Mafia did not play perfectly. Not going to agree with him there. However town did not play a game of mafia, they played a game of lets break the game. I gotta head to be and this is the last I will say of it. I believe to many blue roles via items this game, however by removing pms town would never have broken the setup and players who were herp derping terribly (like VE) and the like would have been killed well before ever using their abilities correctly. Town played horribly, as did mafia. I honestly believe that Ace, myself, and tailsmania were the only people this game who did any form of analysis / logical discussion in this thread that IMO was worth reading. A few others did try such as marvel, however the game was mainly enjoyable for me as I was allowed to live without pressure of my name. I do thank you for letting me smurf! Anyway, it was an interesting setup, people played against the spirit of the game, nothing you could have done on that. If you ever do a similar setup, just remove pm's and it will be a fuck ton more even. I'd say lower the blue count, but with the current level of play, town would honestly rape itself senseless. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 17:52 sandroba wrote: Yes. The vigi shot on ace was not accurate. LOL. Am I supposed to be completely infallible? However all the other shots and lynches I orchestrated were. If you compare myself to perfect I'm sure I'll come up short. Sorry. I must suck. Quit with the attitude. Sure you found a ton of scum, however you did not play a game of mafia. You did not analyze, you tried and managed to break a game setup. That is nothing to be proud of. Regardless of how you played within the game result wise you played hardcore against the spirit of the game. The amount of attitude you are currently displaying makes it clear you have no fing idea what you did wrong. | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On April 21 2012 18:06 syllogism wrote: And it's laughable to suggest that utilizing game mechanics the way they are intended to be used is "breaking the game" eh? As a host I can clearly state that in no point in time do I expect players to suggest, quote, or drop heavy hints to the contents of my role pm wording. I only really talked to sandro day 1 and all he wanted was my role, exactly what it was (to make sure it was the same as everyone else claimed), and what item I had. But saying "its a dt role, its a hatter role" etc... wasn't specific enough, it had to be the exact name of the item. I didn't like the direction he was taking and never really talked to him after that. The only other people I talked to at all during this game were giving me similar feedback. How do you think my view is going to be? Nothing I saw or heard was at all scum hunting, it was "show me your pm" basically. | ||
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