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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#520
yay in the thread please
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 03:10 GMT
#598
Well, I think it's highly unlikely if you appreciate the fact that they had no idea if other masons were out there or not. If sandroba had waited until say, day 2, to claim mason, then that hurts their claim.

Also, sandroba led the lynch on Jackal iirc.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 03:21 GMT
#607
On March 20 2012 06:51 slOosh wrote:
Catching up and going through Jackal's filter, I don't see anything telling of scum.
Additionally, its been pointed out, but this bandwagon is forming really fast and people are just jumping on.

From what I understand from my experience w/ TL Mafia, jackal doesn't bother putting in effort D1 since he always dies / his early reads are poor (or at least that is what people say about him). Does it absolve him of lurking? Well, combined with St. Patrick Day, power outage and work I'm really leaning null.

And a no-lynch is better than a lynch on (someone who I think is) a null read, especially since this is a true bandwagon where the only true read is Sandroba's and mostly everyone is sheeping. Not gonna lynch someone who I don't think is scum, and can't even apply the faulty "we get information out of it" because we won't.

##Unvote Snarfs
##Vote no-lynch

This post sounds kind of look slOosh thought that his vote was going to make a difference.

I'm interested in hearing why you decided to make a point about switching to a no-lynch 10 minutes before the deadline unless you thought there was a chance that your vote would actually matter.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 03:26 GMT
#609
I mean there were 7 votes on Jackal. 7 is all we need.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 03:57 GMT
#611
Of the people not voting for Jackal:

Tobon and jcarlsoniv are most likely to be town. Tobon for his earlier willingness to get on Jackal shortly after sandroba did, which seems very unlikely for a new player. jcarl for masony things.

Probulous is right behind them. I think all his posts so far have been helpful and have showed a genuine attempt to either find scum or protect who he thinks is town from bad cases.

Nemesis for tunneling of VisceraEyes. It seems very unlikely that a scum would target a player as strong as VE is in this game. I would expect scum to go after the weaker players for the lynch then just kill the strong players during the day.

That only leaves slOosh. I think he is most likely scum out of those remaining. Probulous has made a good case and since I believe that Probulous is town, I value that case.

Given these numbers, assuming 3 mafia, I also believe that 1 person on the Jackal lynch is scum as well.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 04:17 GMT
#613
Since the flip too, there have been some posts that make it seem like at this point all checks that a cop could perform will be certain. Talk about "follow the cop" or just general directing of a DT role to ease our minds about certain people.

That's why I feel it necessary to point out that there could be a Godfather role as well.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 04:17 GMT
#614
I don't think it says in the OP but I think it would be reasonable to assume there are going to be 3 mafia.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 17:21 GMT
#630
I believe that Dirkzor is most likely town. I got a town vibe from him from his first post and he hasn't said anything to change my opinion of that.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 22:09 GMT
#648
Can I have a drink?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 22:31 GMT
#661
On March 21 2012 07:22 Tobon wrote:
Hitting JCarl or Sandroba was a pretty obvious move. But why JCarl of the two of them? We may want to consider that JCarl was gut reading Nemesis.

I think it was probably that jcarl was less likely to be medic protected and thus a more sure kill. I don't think we can infer from this that he was on the right track, but it can't hurt to look over his filter.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#665
On March 21 2012 07:31 sandroba wrote:
Yeah I can agree with that. I'd like to hear arguments from everyone though, since I'm not very sure myself.

I'm leaning towards Nemesis being town. After my initial vote, he hasn't done anything to raise my suspicions, and as I stated before the day post I think his tunneling of one of the stronger players this game doesn't make much sense from a scum point of view.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 20 2012 23:09 GMT
#672
Might as well let my actions follow my words:

##Vote slOosh
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 21 2012 18:09 GMT
#717
I'm not yet convinced that switching to Probulous would be a good idea.

I had a look back though for some contradictions in things he's said that might give us a better idea as to his alignment, but I'd really like to see him post a bit more. Maybe I'm biased because he was really nice to me last game (even though he was serial killer ).

Something interesting:

In his case against slOosh, first he claims that he has no problem with slOosh's post against me and that he's actually more interested in the timing of it:
His next major contribution is his case against Snarfs (Klicky). I have no problem with the post itself. It did come after Tobon, sandroba and jcarlsoniv voted for Snarfs so the timing looks like joining a wagon.

But later he claims that actually the content of his jump onto me was indeed bad:
Your jump onto Snarfs' was bad. There were others on him already and then you call him out for a simple mistake. The most telling things was the comparison with his previous play which is indeed quite different. Saying something that can be interpreted as contradictory does not make a case.


Like I said though, I want to see Probulous post more like it seems most people do. I thought besides the timing of his case on slOosh he was looking pretty good.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 21 2012 21:56 GMT
#726
@slOosh:

Can you point me to where your opinion changed on xsksc and what your reasoning is for no longer believing he is scum (or at least him not warranting your top 2 picks)?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 21 2012 22:04 GMT
#729
On March 22 2012 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 06:56 Snarfs wrote:
@slOosh:

Can you point me to where your opinion changed on xsksc and what your reasoning is for no longer believing he is scum (or at least him not warranting your top 2 picks)?


No time, go vote for Probulous. I wanna hit scum every day. E'ERY DAY I'M SCUM LYNCHIN SCUM LYNCHIN

No time? We have a full day
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 21 2012 22:35 GMT
#740
On March 22 2012 07:30 Probulous wrote:
VE's hammer on Jackal confirmed him in my eyes so I had to look elsewhere.

I know you keep using this word and I'm verifying that by 'hammer' you do indeed mean '2nd to last vote'?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 21 2012 23:23 GMT
#759
On March 22 2012 08:19 Probulous wrote:Does everyone else understand what VE is saying?

Not a fucking clue, but what else is new? He's confused me all game.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 22 2012 01:26 GMT
#786
I would like to contribute that I read it like Probulous did:

That TIPD did not want to give the impression that Jackal could be scum.

Especially by referencing Wiggles mini where he was town and did a similar lurking day 1. If it wasn't for his miraculous 3 minute reading of my filter before hopping on my wagon which sandroba pointed out, I probably would not have voted for him yesterday.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 22 2012 01:29 GMT
#787
xsksc, I feel like you are taking quotes out of context which is not helping contribute to the argument.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 22 2012 04:55 GMT
#810
On March 22 2012 10:32 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 10:29 Snarfs wrote:
xsksc, I feel like you are taking quotes out of context which is not helping contribute to the argument.


I am? I thought he just argued that he had a town read on VE because he voted for Jackal, and that it didn't matter that VE had defended Jackal.

Now his arguement on TIPD being scum...totally contradicts that, do you not see?

Did Probulous clear this up for you, or do you still need me to explain it?
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