Newbie Mini Mafia V - Page 2

On March 16 2012 12:14 Probulous wrote:


If there is no DT doesn't the miller just become a normal townie. Hell, the miller doesn't even know they're a miller so its existence makes no difference to the game because no-one (no DT) would be relying on them being scum. If you inferred there had to be a DT when a miller flips, well that is just bad play.

I think the reason scum are winning so many newbie games is that inactivity and "lurking" is used as a reason to lynch people. If most of the town is active it becomes much easier to identify scum. Townies who are scared to post are a real detriment, especially late game.

I'm surprised there aren't more lurker-vigs in Newbie games. Yes you are more likely to hit town than scum (almost guaranteed) but at least you aren't wasting a lynch on a lurker.

On March 16 2012 13:13 Probulous wrote:


Are you angry son? You're making a big call right here 1. I don't see how Kitaman mislead you at all. How exactly was he throwing in a wrench by adding a miller? To me it seems the roles were randomed. The only way Kitaman could have mislead you is if people assumed there was a DT when you flipped. This relies on town making assumptions they shouldn't make and has nothing to do with Kitaman. Can you explain your gripe a bit better?

On March 16 2012 13:37 Probulous wrote:


Ok, fair enough then. I agree that a miller in a newbie game is rare. I still think the roles were randomed and that it shouldn't have an effect on your play. If nothing else you have learned a valuable lesson, don't assume unreasonable stuff. I have played/read games with framers but no DT and similarly roleblockers with no blue roles. They are there to make it harder for both mafia and town to guess what roles exist in an open setup. Sure it makes the game a little harder but it also punishes bad play. If you are learning, that is what you want.

I hope this doesn't turn you off from playing here.