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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:05 GMT
#527
palmar knock knock
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#529
Poll: ♦♣◘7○♠☻)♥

omg i can vote (3)
 
75%

2 (1)
 
25%

1 (0)
 
0%

3 (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: ♦♣◘7○♠☻)♥

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): omg i can vote


Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#534
Palmar
Do you think that's a valid question Probulous? Do you honestly think I would scumslip?


you see, until you start making sense rgTS, I don't value your opinions.


I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me?

. For example, you're being massively dumb and saying LAL is stupid when it isn't (I'm not going to argue this, I'm right).

No clue about the rest really. Toast and Pandain and anyone else I might be forgetting, but if I forget you it's because your content has been worthless so far. So take it as an insult please.


Cause I want to lynch sandroba you dumbass. Don't be thick.



are you dumb? do you need obvious information spoonfed to you?



how the fuck would I know jackal?

What I'm pretty certain of is that he's not town.


No let's lynch Deconduo for being an asshole to me when I'm right and he's wrong.



Adam, why did you disagree with me? Do you think I'm dumb?


and my favorite

There is no sensible reason to disbelieve pandain's claim
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:26 GMT
#536
On March 07 2012 08:35 Bluelightz wrote:
@prob as soon as i can get on comp I'll reply to your case. Fucking hard to do it on an iPad.


On March 02 2012 10:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I could see Pandain as scum, I'll explain later, I can't explain now cuz I got school work tho.



On March 04 2012 10:15 Bluelightz wrote:
I was sleeping bro, I'm gonna get on my comp first though to explain it.


On March 05 2012 10:05 Bluelightz wrote:
I'm here guys, but im at school so can't post most of what I want to post till maybe later.

I'm gonna unvote AKCT for now.

##Unvote: A Killer Cuppa Tea


On March 05 2012 12:35 Bluelightz wrote:


Again no time wil post in like 2 hours maybe.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:43 GMT
#539
On March 07 2012 09:31 Probulous wrote:
I see you have a full grasp of the quoting function. Whilst this is a useful skill to have it would be more beneficial if you made a point. If this continues you will be guilty of spamming which is highly ironic given your first post.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:50 GMT
#541
Lol I was making fun of palmar for being a dick all the time, and bluelightz for always having to "i'll post later".

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#543
Palmar is town or badass sk. Jackal COULD be SK but I'm leaning towards not. He's definitely not playing pro town....

bluelightz/adam/jackal one or more of them is mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 03:34 GMT
#558
#vote Paperscraps
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#560
this seems set up. Claim immediately after, because you like "suprises?" When your already under suspicion? Yeah, no.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 20:14 GMT
#655
hmmmm
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 21:16 GMT
#657
Before I go on, I want everyone to remember that this is the work of 24 hours of constant lurking, re reading, re-re reading, going through each filter again and again, rereading thread in entirety, and even night time pondering.

I don't believe Paperscraps. I feel people are beliving he is town merely because he claimed vig. Everyone seems to have forgotten this role....

On February 25 2012 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Vigilante: You are a Vigilante! Once per game, starting night 1, you may send in a night hit.


This doesn't mean its scum, but it does make us remember that there are now three possibilities for Paperscraps to be:

1. Serial killer.
2. Mafia Vigilante
3. Vigilante

Him claiming vigilante in no way makes him town. Rather, we must analyze two things in determining his alignment:

1. His reasoning/motivation behind shooting Jackal
2. His posts/votes this game(Normal Analysis)

I'll be posting more once I make sense of everything.....
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 21:28 GMT
#659
Decondou I think your town and value your opinion, what do you make of paperscraps claim?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 23:24 GMT
#674
stop posting i have to keep adding to it because of you guys
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 23:30 GMT
#675
The thing is it doesn't matter whether he had pushed Jackal beforehand.....

Jackal was an easy target. Never posted and hardly a contribution, and was a vet. And they would've known he was town. Of course mafia would point at him.

Just because there's consistancy doesn't mean he's town..... you have to look at the whole portrait.

Take for example, his reads. He was suspicious of decon, jackal, and toast. Toast I actually am learning towards town now given the huge contributions he's been doing lately, trying to figure stuff out. Decon I'm almost certain is town. And Jackal, as we all know now, is town.

What has he done regarding the only confirmed mafia(sandroba)
+ Show Spoiler +
Sandroba will by far be the easy lynch tomorrow and maybe rightly so. Posts one line content and filler. I don't agree with Sandroba's read on TheToast as of now. TheToast is null to me at the moment. I feel as though Sandroba might be too easy of a lynch. If Sandroba is mafia, then why lurk and post crap and be sure to get lynched. Does Sandroba just not care about the game? Maybe just a bored vanilla townie?

Before the night ends, he states hish reasons against voting sandroba because "he's too easy."

To be fair, When Sandroba claims, this is what he describes.
Ok so Sandroba claims vet or saved by medic. Why would Sandroba have been targeted as all last night? I don't think a medic would have been on Sandroba either. Thus that leaves the vet claim. Honestly I think Sandroba is SK that is claiming a fake hit.


However later he would backtrack, saying that we should not lynch him because he claimed............vet.(yeah, vet).
Deconduo, TheToast, and Jackal are all better lynches. I don't know if we should lynch Sandroba yet, due to the hit claim. Sandroba is on ice though and needs to start contributing as do a lot of other players.


After Sandroba basically gave up, Paper finally votes against him.
On March 06 2012 05:02 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 01:06 sandroba wrote:
I'm busy as fuck right now and I'm already working towards being replaced. I'm veteran. I got shot last night. That's all the info I have good luck.


If you aren't even going to try, then you are going to get lynched.

##Unvote

##Vote Sandroba




Side note: TheToast is scum.


Then we have this suspicious post.
On March 06 2012 09:22 Paperscraps wrote:
Hmmmm, my gut tells me that Sandroba is vet, but logic dictates that Sandroba is mafia/SK. This bandwagon on Sandroba went up pretty darn fast. But, alas Sandroba hasn't taken his vote off of AKCT and not putting up a fight at all.

This lynch on Sandroba doesn't feel right. I feel if I change my vote though, people will think that scummy.

Only one person died last night. Something doesn't fit here.

Going to change my vote anyways. Back to my "tunnel" on Deconduo, who has been coasting.

##Unvote

##Vote: Deconduo

Inb4 people say I am scum trying to make myself look townie "if" Sandroba flips vet.

Read this post, over and over. There are many things that feel wrong in this post. From the "inb4 you guys call me scum" to the "going to change my vote anyways , this post just is oddly timed.

Then he posts this, which is his longest post, and coincidentally because he was accused of being scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=62048&currentpage=2
Note in this post he says he asked rg who he was going to shoot because "he wanted to play along." No , that's a horrible excuse. I can't even explain why its so wrong, just read it and realize why that
1. Isn't how you would do it.
2. Hurts town if he does say who he's going to shoot
3. is a anti town question in general.





Probulus, I feel that this is definitely a move to gain town cred. Whether he's mafia or SK I don't know yet, but I know that if I was mafia, I would pull off something like this. Think about it. You get to kill a townie and still "be town." What's there not good?



Since we don't have a detective, its impossible to differentiate a mafia vig and a town vig. The only benefit it had, was, in fact, being able to say "oh im vig."

I just don't feel like he would've shot jackal if he was town. Look at his posts. Before he was suspicious of Decondou. AFter he's suspicious of decondou. If he was more sure of Jackal then decondou(to the point where he would shoot him), he would've actually led a real charge on him. He changes his stories regarding why he shot him, going from "yeah I wasn't certain of decon, jackal seemed scummy" to
I shot Jackal over Decon, because I had doubts about Decon being scum and didn't have doubts about Jackal


In General:
1. Fosed the same people (decondou, toast, jackal.) who i believe are town.
2. Resisted the Sandroba lynch, voted him only when he gave up, and even back tracked after.
3. Questionable shooting and dubious reasoning.

I feel that definitely #2 is the weakest. But its evidence that he could, indeed, be mafia. The point I'm trying to make, is basically that mafia WOULD possibly do this because they had just lost sandroba, and given the lack of any vets besides me and decon, they're probably also doing dumb/risky stuff now too. Shooting Jackal as we all see clearly was a good move, as most of you believe him >.>

I personally believe that he is the SK. I feel like this would be the right way for an SK to try and gain town cred; presenting himself as a vig.

Also remember that Sandroba, mafia, got hit. As I highly doubt he would just randomly claim, this provides evidence for the fact that he must've gotten hit by either an SK or vig. Given the fact that no vig has claimed shooting him, there must be an sk.

Who do you guys think it is ?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 23:32 GMT
#676
Also when I don't respond to you its because it was a dumb argument that I didn't need to respond to.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 08 2012 23:42 GMT
#678
Theres no one else besides Adam really.

On February 25 2012 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Player List:
1. Jackal58 Townie shot night 2
2. Paperscraps
3. Bluelightz-
4. Probulous
5. Snarfs

6. rgTheSchworz Townie killed night 1
7. Misder Townie lynched day 1
8. Pandain
9. Palmar Watcher killed night 2
10. Sandroba Goon lynched day 2
11. TheToast
12. Adam4167
13. A Killer Cuppa Tea
14. deconduo


Basically my suspicions go like this:
Paper, Adam, bluelightz+ akct.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 09 2012 02:04 GMT
#691
Mafia would never just randomly fake claim getting hit. If the game had gone on longer, then Sandroba would've been found out if he had faked it(as we would find out more info as the game goes on longer.) The fact that he claimed getting hit and yet didn't try to defend himself suggests to me that he didn't try to use it as a "town cred" thing, like he would've if he had been faking it.

If mafia fake it, their goal is to use it to gain town cred.
Sandroba didn't do it.

The point I'm trying to make about him FOS (i believe) town people, is the fact that hes STILL going against them. This very day he's gone against toast, decondou,and he shot jackal the night before! He defended sandroba, and you say that his reaosning for shooting jackal doesn't tell us anything about his alignment, but it does.

If his case was that "Inherently weak" he wouldn't have fricking SHOT him. Previous posts all suggested him feeling confident about toast being scum, why not shoot him? The point of the matter is that he's had dubious reasoning, and changed how he's said he's doing stuff.

And I didn't notice the "Only 1 guy died", but that is damning also.

The case is better , far better , then Adam, that's why I'm voting him.

We can lynch Adam tommorow.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 09 2012 02:14 GMT
#693
decondouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
you know he's sk
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 09 2012 03:01 GMT
#706
wow adam died faster then seal to MKP
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 09 2012 03:05 GMT
#709
If we have a tracker, track Paper.

If we have a medic, protect decondou or me.
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