Kaller Game

On February 23 2012 23:33 blubbdavid wrote:
Ah, I see, Palmar is trying to eliminate people with numbers in their name. Jackal58, you are next!

On February 23 2012 23:43 Palmar wrote:


well sucks for you.

On February 25 2012 08:21 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote Greymist

hes going to die

On February 25 2012 08:34 Radfield wrote:




Incorrect. I may not be on the role list, but that is irrelevant given the fact that I have a role PM. I assure you I am in this game.

On February 25 2012 20:33 Curu wrote:
Nisani is a Palmar clone? What insane world do you live in?

On February 26 2012 00:27 sandroba wrote:

Yes.

On February 26 2012 01:10 Erandorr wrote:


It worked

On February 26 2012 01:16 Erandorr wrote:


Fucking germans

On February 26 2012 01:20 Erandorr wrote:


I didnt even need to get drunk ^.^

##Nuke Jayjay54

On February 26 2012 01:43 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote:


/ ahrug, I'm keeping my options open. Giving scum a reason to not kill me and town a reason to keep me alive. Lotsa wine, really nice.

On February 26 2012 02:45 blubbdavid wrote:
Good evening.

On February 26 2012 02:59 vaderseven wrote:
who will lynch wbg if elected?

On February 26 2012 03:08 vaderseven wrote:
nono, who will use the lynch they gain day 1 to ensure that gwb / wbg is the lynch today?

On February 26 2012 03:16 syllogism wrote:

1) I doubt the nukes are real
2) The nukes land when day ends (lynch) so what you say is only relevant if there are players with day actions
3) No we are not going to allow the "nukes" to affect the elections as then scum can just nuke all the viable town candidates
4) There are ways to prevent a nuke

On February 26 2012 03:30 syllogism wrote:
Kurumi just made a mistake there, nukes land when the day ends. Even if he didn't make a mistake, we will know when the night starts.

I'm not going to assume that they are real, as that would be basically game ruining and there is absolutely nothing we can do about them. It's clearly not a role related mechanic, so I'm leaning towards it being a joke. As the nukes being real is the less likely scenario and following your advice would allow scum win the elections anyway, there is no reason not to vote for people who have been nuked.

I know you have't played in a game that had nukes, but there are indeed roles that can affect the nukes and I may have even received such a claim. Whether the nukes in this game are real or not has nothing to do with that.

On February 26 2012 04:39 GreYMisT wrote:
what in the name of all the hells is going on?

On February 26 2012 06:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Yo wtf jaybrundage just made a nonsensical threat in PMs:
"you might get nukes so give me your role"

Curu you scumbuddies with this illegal immigrant?

On February 26 2012 07:13 vaderseven wrote:
The post about metagaming jokes vs srs mode on day 1 of a bastard game made me smile.

the end of today and start of tomorrow will really help us understand the pace and style of this game.

Till then, i hope bush gets converted... to radio active vapor!

On February 26 2012 09:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, whats up? I was thinking, how about a mass claim? And i think we should all claim to,at least one person. Perhaps the person below us on the list. Also im happy going with a random lynch tonight. Wbg is obviously town, stop caling him scum vanilabear.

On February 26 2012 13:46 Bill Murray wrote:
so far you can put sheth, jackal, and wbg on your town lists

On February 26 2012 19:34 Forumite wrote:
Fake nukes? I´m not necessarily dead yet?

Nuclear Phase
Each player has a random amount of nuclear weapons (from 1-2)（unless otherwise specified） that they may shoot on any person they wish during this phase. Only one missile may be fired at a time, unless it is in response to another nuke being fired or otherwise specified. Players may continue to use missiles even if they do not have any nukes left but the missiles will not kill anyone. Nukes do not cancel out with each other, and some roles may have more nukes than others, or nuclear resistance. Whenever a nuke lands, the world’s radiation level increases by one. The real radiation level will not be revealed, but it will be fairly high. Once the radiation level has been reached, everybody dies and the Conspirator wins. If the target has multiple night lives or is hit by a dud missile, the exact same sort of response will be acknowledged, so be careful.

On February 27 2012 07:52 GreYMisT wrote:


what I'm doing is very different then directing blues. Im trying to gather information in the form of whose nukes worked. Im also suggesting we stop typing the nuke command for now. Go read WaW if you have questions why.

On February 27 2012 08:19 Zephirdd wrote:
Cyber, do you really believe there is any Vanilla on this game?

I do recall Kurumi going "I have to create 30 roles" on IRC

every player has a PR. I do have the most useless and boring one tbh.

On February 27 2012 08:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Holy fuck he really added a spot for me....

On February 27 2012 08:30 chaos13 wrote:
I nuked syllogism, but I don't know if it was mine, Echelon's, or both that went through.

On February 27 2012 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:

I for one dont know if mine or Nisani went through.
I wasnt aware someone else nuked Sandroba.

On February 28 2012 02:13 Jackal58 wrote:

Syllo flipping town does not make me scum. Bugs flipping town does not make me scum. Get over yourself.

On February 28 2012 02:42 Forumite wrote:

I see why some might think it´s suspicious, but I disagree with that. Syllo flipping blue doesn´t make Jackal scum, just as two players arguing, one flipping green, doesn´t make the other one red. All I know is that right now we have a good player as the Mayor, and noone has presented any arguments against him, besides "he won, he´s scum." Was he caught pushing an anti-Town agenda? No, he just happened to be on the opposing side of confirmed townies, confirmed townies that threatened people unless they roleclaimed to them. I´d be more suspicious if Jackal didn´t oppose syllo+sandroba.

On February 28 2012 03:12 syllogism wrote:
Dictator townies win town games. I too am glad that all townies are dead.

On February 28 2012 05:45 wherebugsgo wrote:


what the fuck

my claim was impeccable!

Now I shall haunt you all by reminding you of all the shitty legislation I pushed during my first 2 terms

On February 23 2012 08:21 annul wrote:
SPOILER ALERT: THIS GAME WON'T END DUE TO MOD FAILURE TO MAKE DAY POSTS

On February 29 2012 07:49 Nisani201 wrote:
JB i have been very active in PM land. Plenty of stuff has been said in-thread about why Jackal is scum. The most prominent reason being that he was one of three mayor candidates, two of which are flipped town. From my experiences, scum are very successful in getting a mayor election spot.

On February 29 2012 08:18 Nisani201 wrote:
What power does he have anyways?

No we shouldn't trust a DT check because this is a bastard game and we really shouldn't trust anything.

On February 29 2012 08:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Damnit Jayjay >.>

On March 01 2012 00:27 syllogism wrote:
Doesn't anyone else find it strange no one voting for Forumite yet? Clearly mafia don't want him as the mayor

On March 01 2012 00:30 Nisani201 wrote:
Wait, is this a mayor election or a lynch election?

On March 01 2012 01:21 Mattchew wrote:


wtf... i wish i had the nuke to actually nuke you with

On February 29 2012 19:04 Forumite wrote:
Sheth claims anti-town check on Zeph
Nisani claims in order to protect Zeph
Nisani is White Supremacist claiming an anti-town power
Nisani and Zeph are defending eachother, are checked as scum, have scum powers, this makes them scum!

On March 02 2012 03:04 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright so I just got a PM from Kurumi saying that I'm now the Pacific Ocean. Bulletproof and unlynchable.

This is fun.

On March 02 2012 03:38 Mattchew wrote:
lol

On March 02 2012 07:06 blubbdavid wrote:
Fuck. Sorry guys, I messed up big time. Now our medic is dead. OR JJ54 is scum.

Jackal58 could be town after all. I know, I pushed him hard, but that was his scummy behavior.

Remember when he was yelling "I am Tim Fucking Tebow"? That was because he actually IS Tim Tebow, like WBG was GWB, and like I am ...

Furthermore, he's a medic:


See?

On March 02 2012 07:15 blubbdavid wrote:
No, it's because of this post:



Atleast my theory was 100% right.

On March 02 2012 07:17 Jackal58 wrote:
Now I get to be a ghost and argue with Syllo.

On March 02 2012 07:24 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright guys im going to drop some knowledge bombs. Jackal must have been hit night 1. how do I know this? because I was "Burned" last night, meaning I took 1/2 kp worth of damage. I assume that jackal met a similar fate because it said that he "was burnt down" and he would be a prime target. Just thought I should get that info out there.

In other news I really feel that blubbdavid is a very good shot at being scum. anyone else feel this way atm?

On March 02 2012 07:00 EchelonTee wrote:

are you team magma?? Why would you destroy the pacific ocean :o

On March 02 2012 07:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
I'd rather lynch VT or V7. Sheth and forumite shouldn't get a free pass either.

On March 02 2012 21:58 Ciryandor wrote:
Besides the DT check on Sheth, is there any other person we ought to be talking a look at, like VaderSeven for example?

On March 02 2012 13:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
And by now Nisani should have me confirmed town.

On March 02 2012 10:55 Nisani201 wrote:

Interesting.

My own ventures in PM land have also suggested that he might be scum.

On March 02 2012 23:10 vaderseven wrote:

Are you sheeping, making a case, or maybe asking the people that made vague cases and never followed up (ggq / sheth) to make a case?

On March 02 2012 23:32 vaderseven wrote:
???

Have you read the current page?

Other than Sheth (who via his play has made himself a much easier specimen to exaime) and killer cupa (who got modkilled), I dont have any strong scum/antitown reads atm.

I am very bothered by GGQs lurking (easy for me to notice since he posted an accusation at me the went mia and...) but he lurks every game. I think he lurks harder as scum but he also tends to make 0 cases at all as scum (see sleeper cell II). Hes one of those players that will eternally bother me in every game because his play style in general is anti town.

VanillaTownie needs to pop back in I didnt like his posts on day 1 (but who wasnt trolling day 1 so thats a null tell imo) and he has basically gone mia since then.

Beyond that I haven't come to any strong conclusions.

On March 03 2012 03:29 vaderseven wrote:
Horrible case from a bad player.

A change in playstyle is your case. Well the nukes had stopped flying, stupid day 1 elections (check my 'meta' i hate those so much), and ggq had basically said you dont look town to me right now.

Your right it would have been a town move to continue my day 1 play.

Your case is 100% confirmation bais and you are bad. You choose me over VT based on that shit?

On February 29 2012 08:52 vaderseven wrote:
oh guyz ill be active more soon this game is a bit more real now it seems.

I am going to a lan this weekend and Ive been training hard core (92 ladder games over 2 servers past 3 days + non ladder games). Ill try to make some posts tonight!

On March 03 2012 03:32 vaderseven wrote:
I will be seriously pissed off at all of you and lose faith in TL if I continue to be one of the main focuses of discussion as possble scum and/or a leading canidate to be lynched.

Scum hunt != reading filters to justify a vote.

On March 03 2012 03:45 vaderseven wrote:


to be very clear: tl in what i said refered to tl mafai.

I would NEVER bring up outside of game things like that.

What i mean in that post is that I had been regaurding TL as a place were mafai games were played skillfully.

The way this litle fiasco around me is developing is pure newbie dribble.

On March 02 2012 23:32 vaderseven wrote:
Other than Sheth (who via his play has made himself a much easier specimen to exaime) and killer cupa (who got modkilled), I dont have any strong scum/antitown reads atm.

I am very bothered by GGQs lurking (easy for me to notice since he posted an accusation at me the went mia and...) but he lurks every game. I think he lurks harder as scum but he also tends to make 0 cases at all as scum (see sleeper cell II). Hes one of those players that will eternally bother me in every game because his play style in general is anti town.

VanillaTownie needs to pop back in I didnt like his posts on day 1 (but who wasnt trolling day 1 so thats a null tell imo) and he has basically gone mia since then.

Beyond that I haven't come to any strong conclusions.

On March 03 2012 03:47 vaderseven wrote:


Im upset because i have played correctly and others have not and this idiotic case on me is just trollishly bad.

On March 03 2012 03:54 vaderseven wrote:
Sheths case closed up and mine was blown open by people posting nonsense. I havent had time at all to form solid ideas beyond current ones. Stop being mr hero pressure im right cuz of a whim to think you scum.

Its really bad play bro.

On March 03 2012 04:18 GreYMisT wrote:
I would appreciate comments on blubdavid, im a bit worried how a case and a vote on a player were ignored so quickly

On March 03 2012 04:56 vaderseven wrote:

Did your analysis happen to include his in post (firat post of his filter) ehere he clearly states this is his first game?

I dont find him scummy grey. I think he would be more coached if he was. As was said (ach hate to agree but) its a coindlip lynch at best.

On March 03 2012 07:38 Bill Murray wrote:
Sheth: someone VaderSeven called out for not claiming who he FRAMED
Also claimed a 3rd party role, and not having it? Now he's a framer? That's a negative role to town, at worst we end negative utility with this

vote: Sheth

On March 03 2012 07:50 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I remember in the last game I played with BM he was Sheriff who kept making stupid mistakes, like protecting mafia and what not. Come on BM, be helpful! Show your townieness, or die. Muahahahah

On March 03 2012 15:15 vaderseven wrote:
SO. IM HERE NIGHT BEFORE LAN AND FUN. DRINKING SOME SHIT. WTF YOU DOING. PROLLY BEING BAD AT MAFAI. HOW DO I KNOW? PLEASE READ FILTERS OF ALL PLAHERS I CALLED BAD.



:G


OR


:D


MMMMMMMMMMMAFFFFFFFFFIIIIIAAAA GAME!



HALF SOBER BRAIN SAYS YELL AT U FUCKER S ALIVE AND NOT TLKING GOOD NIGHT TL

On March 03 2012 10:08 Bill Murray wrote:
Sheth pushed a lynch yesterday, and now he has the role of FRAMER
use your brains!

On March 03 2012 17:31 Bill Murray wrote:
One is 3rd party role (ocean)
one is scum (framer)
shuffled
both lie

On March 03 2012 19:09 Erandorr wrote:
Who thinks exams on saturday mornins are such a great idea that you have to do it 3 times in a row?

On March 04 2012 02:29 Bill Murray wrote:
I dont see getting another lynch
I can compromise... I don't have a lot of information, only what is in the thread

On March 04 2012 03:50 Forumite wrote:
I'm not following, why is Sheth town? Who confirmed him, and how? If he flips red I want to know why we didn't lynch him allready.

On March 04 2012 09:31 GreYMisT wrote:


This is a caller themed game

On March 05 2012 03:03 blubbdavid wrote:
Jay, shoot the lurker who is most suspicious. It's better than wasting it on V7.

On March 05 2012 03:17 GreYMisT wrote:


Shotting V7 does not confirm as town. This is a Bastard game. it doesnt have to be balanced or fair. scum could have an invincible vig for all i know.

When will people learn only very rarely do roles confirm people. Only death does.

On March 05 2012 03:29 GreYMisT wrote:


I'm not suggesting we ignore him, Im suggesting we don't use his role or outside of the game (i.e Moderater) factors to decided his aliengment.

On March 05 2012 03:52 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
eh I think I'm kinda a special case. My play made 0 sense as a mafia. Who plays like horribly anti-town to get lynched to prove their town? Meh WIFOM ftw...

On March 05 2012 07:20 blubbdavid wrote:
Jayjay, now it makes sense that there are two oceans.
Nisani got his role swapped by Mattchew. So Nisani suddenly became Ocean. The other guy (white supremacist) then visited GGQ and killed him.
It happened for V7 too. May I ask you what your role was before? I am too lazy to click the filter button.

On March 05 2012 07:49 Nisani201 wrote:

Why would he be dead?

On March 02 2012 10:03 Bluelightz wrote:
I got a scum check on Sheth

My result was: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36ee4v/

<3

On March 02 2012 20:24 Bluelightz wrote:
I failed to send Palmar a PM night 1 ;|

I am a DT.

On March 06 2012 05:30 blubbdavid wrote:
More and more I think that I am actually the man. But in my PM role it didn't say that there were bodyguards.

On March 06 2012 05:55 blubbdavid wrote:
Yes, why in the first hand did you announce your shot? As if we trust you.

On March 06 2012 06:09 Bill Murray wrote:
jayjay are you really saying im not a VT?
I cant help it, how do you think I feel?

On March 07 2012 01:59 EchelonTee wrote:


this. bad play =/= scum, it's like saying "oh you vig'd the wrong person? SCUM", or "oh you protect'd a scum, YOU SCUM", or in this case, "didn't use ur DT power? SCUM". people not understanding what cause and effect means

On March 07 2012 02:41 GreYMisT wrote:
Damn, I was so close to making it in time.

On March 07 2012 03:48 blubbdavid wrote:
scumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscum

much love <3

On March 07 2012 03:53 Forumite wrote:
3 hours until the lynch, can someone tell me why you want me lynched?

On March 07 2012 05:33 syllogism wrote:
Actually the vote count seems to be 5:5 right now because mafia apparently likes to go all-in every game rather than to play the long game. Sheth your vote needs to go back

On March 07 2012 06:13 vaderseven wrote:


Sadly the town doesn't care as thier evil master sylo has told them not to. Sylo said he wont reply about the matter and hat he will be gone after today anyway (in a pm to me).

Fucking sheep. Learn to think.

On March 07 2012 07:06 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
The only person this makes town is syllogism! LOL

On March 08 2012 11:23 Ciryandor wrote:


Why do you think Sheth and Syllo didn't think I was worth lynching? Why would people you KNOW are townie not mark me out as a scummy player? The way you're dealing with this is not just heavy-handed, but also quite unlike the way you've acted before today. You in my opinion have over-reacted to my seeming lack of activity in-thread. This is a PM game, not everyone will want to talk out in the open.

On March 09 2012 17:51 evantrees wrote:
Getting lynched for being useless and having a similar role to a dead guy oh what fun.

On March 10 2012 06:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Evantrees why wouldn't you explain your actions?

I dont understand : [

On March 10 2012 07:06 blubbdavid wrote:
What's a busdriver?

On March 10 2012 07:09 Kurumi wrote:

It melted down.

On March 10 2012 07:11 vaderseven wrote:
Oh my god 2 nukes and ice cream lead to........ nothing?

Im not surprised at all with sheths but jayjay explain dat nuke.

On March 10 2012 06:42 Jayjay54 wrote:
looks like evan is dead. nice. looking at his "defense posts" a wise decision.

cyri, I just wanted to see a little more of you. Therefore fake nuke. Please post more but you already did this day.

This is also the reason, why I didn't discuss and also, why the nuke went to the less scummy person in comparison to lightz.

the ice cream is real and I look forward to see what it does. Hopefully it's a deadly ice. Like poison and stuff.

On March 10 2012 07:07 Jayjay54 wrote:


you have got to be kidding me. there are 13 words in kurumi's post. is it too much to ask that you read all of them?

On March 11 2012 00:59 vaderseven wrote:
I thought you already shot me?

On March 11 2012 08:26 Bluelightz wrote:
Trolololl

On March 11 2012 08:30 Jayjay54 wrote:


wtf? what was your night action?

did you do anything? ever?

On March 11 2012 14:45 Nisani201 wrote:
I think we should ##Vote: Bill Murray

I can nuke bluelightz if enough people agree to it.

On March 11 2012 19:28 Bill Murray wrote:
DT here
I have a red check on jayjay

On March 12 2012 02:20 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Greymist was suspicious of JayJay.

I don't think BM is lying. If hes scum its a bad ploy as we'll lynch him the next night. I would like a little more information and for you to explain how you only got a DT check tonight? Or if you just haven't said the last nights?

I can explain more once BM has said some things, but I'd believe him if he says hes not kidding.

On March 12 2012 02:29 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Ok, my head hurts. I'll trust you Nisani.

In this case I think the last mafia is Bluelightz.

Just take a look at his play. He DT checked the dead person, and me and got me being red?!
This just makes no sense except from a mafia point of view.

I'm just about sure BM is 3rd party, and I don't really trust his DT check as he hasnt' explained it. So rather then do what the 3rd party wants, lets get rid of Bluelightz as I'm sure hes the last mafia.

As such ##Vote Bluelightz

On March 12 2012 13:11 Bill Murray wrote:
jayjay54
im going to let you live even if you failed my reaction test
i think you are probably cult though

bluelightz has been scummy all game. he fakeclaimed, and he's going to pay for it. plus, he's a better lynch than i am, obviously, because I'm not mafia, and I most definitely am vanilla...

On March 12 2012 18:13 Bluelightz wrote:
I am not fucking cult. I AM FUCKING BATMAN!

On March 15 2012 02:19 vaderseven wrote:
Sheth told you there was a second recruiter as wrll? Damnnnnn. Good shit by sheth.

Seriously dont get mad at me. I tried to find palmar or kurmi to talk to about the fine print of playing to win vs playing to win for your current win con and couldnt find them. With the game moving along I needed to commit to one or the other.

Cults are often not used in games because they are a bit op and they change win cons. There is no way you should ever fault someone for deciding to pla to win overall. When I say play you I mean lie to you. I engaged in very long talks with you with the intention of lieing... thats all I mean by that phrase. I think I accomplished my goals in playing you because the last day and night of the played out exactly as I told you and the cult I wanted it to.

JJ, keep in mind, it would b accurate to say that there being a cult alone made this a bastard game. I winch at the tone of post game anger. You kinda implied I cheated. If you are saying so please take into account I have 7 (i think) previous games with a cult in them... of which 7 games were by cult even after horrible play on the cults side. The fact that there was a living cult recruiter at that point in the game made thier chances of victory extremely high. This puts into conflict play to win vs play for your CURRENT win con. The op clearly states play for your win con with no regaurd for time. I choose to see thha as the allowed option to do what I did. All I did was PM bm with a subject of bank asking if he was drinking punch. I in no way play against my current win con at that time by say outin that im scum or you are scum.

Tl;dr

Dont be mad about me playing to win.

Keep in mind that if cult recruited you, or me that night things would have played out the exact same way. If there was a 2-1-1 situation the game becomes a semi trigger finger event and well, I have strong feelings about that as well. The last game I was ended as a trigger finger game and it was lame. I am actuallly planning making a post about that because it something tl needs to discuss. I did not see playing for that situation as a reliable way to win.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

On March 15 2012 02:27 vaderseven wrote:
BM the night you recruited me, who would you have recruites had I not PMd you indicating I knew you are cult?

On March 15 2012 02:22 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree Forumite was "just because of syllogism"
I realized syllogism was dead
I also had a huge scumread on forumite, you, and v7
check my posts

On March 15 2012 03:08 Kurumi wrote:

They were an item. The Pope started with them in his inventory. If they survived, there'd be a good ending.

On March 15 2012 03:17 vaderseven wrote:
Not even well? Come on.

The game played out to the T exactly I intended it to from the second I PM BM. You really think that I deserved to be labeled as a cheater for this:

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To: Bill Murray [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Bank
Date: 3/10/12 11:26
I heard that you are making punch.

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I'm going to drop the conversation now as I haven't convinced you that you shouldn't be mad and you haven't convinced me that you should be mad. I take offense at you saying that I didn't read the OP and cheated or that I read the OP and cheated. I am deeply sorry that my actions have made you feel these things yet I fully stand by my actions as I feel they in fact did none of these things.

I can talk about bad play vs good play and own to when I have played sub par but I take offense when someone says I cheated because I put alot of time into this game from start to finish and I in no way was trying to cheat the system.