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rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 24 2012 16:20 GMT
#23
/obs if it exists
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 08:25 GMT
#106
/in
Let's make it better.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 09:26 GMT
#108
Syllo, If Batman wins, Town loses. IF Joker is dead, then town must kill the batman before he kills Hugo Strange.
Read the OP. Except for Batman-Catwoman, ppl from different factions shouldn't collaborate if they know their partner's role.
IMO, it's a really interesting setup, with 4 parties that are seemingly balanced, and Name-based dynamic adds another slice of skill, but also some randomness.
Batman/Catwoman should really use DT as well, he doesnt benefit as much as a SK from killing random targets.
If this lasts 7 game days or so, it'll be epic most likely, with 3 factions having a chance to win entering the last stretch.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 09:43 GMT
#110
Looking at Arkham asylum, 3rd party couldn't win with town or mafia. I'm basing my opinion on that.
Their wincons are, however stated:
Batman: Wins if Hugo strange and Joker dead.
Catwoman:Wins if Two face and Penguin dead
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 10:03 GMT
#112
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=111
Please read. Batman won, neither town nor scum with him
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 10:06 GMT
#114
Ah, I just thought last 5 pages were after-game rants.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 03 2012 12:56 GMT
#117
Nay, you would make a bad Batman, Toad.
You gotta kill 2 ppl, one scum one not. Out of say 40, do you know the odds of shooting 2 specific ppl?
DT helps as well because you find allies sometimes, which is helpful when playing on your own basically.
Between kill X and DT X, kill X if it's late in the game,DT if early.
Why? Because if you find town blues or Red power roles early, you benefit from following their train of thought, then deducing your targets by exclusion.
For example, you find Hugo Strange as Catwoman, you look for whom he may have protected, those are scum and therefore not your targets, as you have to kill 2 blues.
Better, you find a town DT. From his thread presence you deduce whom he has investigated, and shoot amongst those he confs as town.
DT is useful, it only delays your kill count by 1, and you don't end up killing players that make other player's win condition easier to achieve. Else you may end up killing scum and lose because eventually town wins.

You're a bluehunter basically. From the 4 targetsof BM/CW, only 1 is red.



rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 04 2012 11:23 GMT
#141
30 ppl max?
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#156
/confirm
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 07:50 GMT
#214
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.

Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.

For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.

Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.

I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 07:53 GMT
#215
##Vote Kenpachi
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 08:17 GMT
#218
Scum know that he's not lying . We can't know that.
It's a random vote. Random votes don't help scum. They help us get info from reactions to that random vote
I can't possibly know at this stage if Kenpachi is scum, but I voted him to get things going.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 08:18 GMT
#219
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Terribad for us.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 08:40 GMT
#223
WHAAAAAAT??. No contradiction buddy,
Lemme explain better: He claims green. This is sub-sub-optimal blue play, as it puts him into spotlight too early and is basically useless. He could as well stay hidden.
So, either he's green or scum- at least that's what I think
Either way, scum know his role. They know that he's not lying about being green or they know he's scum and perhaps the GF himself. Why else claim green?
Either way, Town has to lose from his claim.I'm not advocating a straight-away lynch, we still have time to debate.
But a first vote is completely justified, it will certainly make scum take a stance instead of sitting around while you lazy-asses talk about Batman

Batman doesn't help town. He has to kill ONE scum only. Why would he scumhunt once the Joker is dead?
He won't. He'll sit back, trying to apear moderately town, while he's DT-ing ppl who look scummy. Then he'll kill Hugo once he finds him. He won't scumhunt.
He'll manhunt
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 19:27 GMT
#328
On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.

Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.

For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.

Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.

I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions.

This post is an atrocity.

RANDOM VOTING STAGE?
REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[

Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time)

Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc.

From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool
.


Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything.
Then why do you claim town? To look interesting?
I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here.
You get all jittery and angry when I vote you.
FoS : Kenpachi
Also
##Unvote
Guess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe.
RVS over.
I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking.
Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 20:17 GMT
#338
Before proceeding, I have encountered Kenpachi in Mafia L. He did not claim townie at the start.

On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 22:35 Forumite wrote:
Stealthvote detected!

On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz

Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth.

Did you read the rest of that post?
For your benefit:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 22:10 -_-Quails wrote:
rg's posts were far scummier though. He attacked using reasoning provided by someone else plus weirdness about RVS and this quote:
On February 06 2012 17:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already.


Explicit reasons:
Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do.

Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious.

Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia


Please explain what you're meaning about quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia.

I did not recycle any Sheth opinions, except from the fact that I think that VT claiming is bad.
I provided my own arguments in that as blue it would make no sense, he sticks out and if he's scum he has a high chance of being the GF, thus the utility of the claim. Plus, he knows his own meta well, so why not do this?. He'll be overlooked, then DT's will perhaps check him if they read the thread closely.

Now, you Mr, you first stealthvote, to bolster a wagon. Definitively not random, and not on a lurker.
That smells red.
Then you basically sheep after CC, who said what you state ages before you. You give Objective/Subjective sides, yet they differ in 1, 1 single statement: Schworz reacted in a way that raised my hackles. USELESS
You are trying to hide, you are trying to look like you contribute without doing so.
You, sir are Scum
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 20:19 GMT
#339
And me be damned if this is not a pressurevote or a normal vote in any way: ##Vote: -_-Quails
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#340
We are halfway through Day 1, we do not have a lynch target, except for the few that quickwagoned me at the start. Time to give some purpose to this game.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#341
Meaning they (those few that quickwagoned) do have a lynchtarget.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 06 2012 20:36 GMT
#346
Overlooked that : thanks
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