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RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 16 2012 14:25 GMT
#3436
Two-face wouldnt have protection if Penguin has it as well... Also lore/theme wise it makes zero sense for Mr Freeze to protect Harvey Dent... I call bullshit on that claim >_>
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 16 2012 15:43 GMT
#3481
Goddammit Schworz, its a pain to read your filter/posts -_-
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#3559
Urgh... I still think Hiro is deadshot or hugo, but you people are appealing to my senses too much with the catwoman lynch being the ideal solution to a very sticky situation, and nobody else wants to take out Hiro =_=

##unvote: hiro protagonist
##vote: kurumi


God help us if Kurumi isn't catwoman...
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 16 2012 23:41 GMT
#3622
Jayjay, i presented my case on you before... basicallg it seems like you almost overcompensated with your analysis posts to seem protown, while your actual votes havent been effective at all and actually seemed really random/scummy. Almost as though you were relying on built up towncred through analysis posts and coasting by unnoticed not actually voting/following through on your analysis...

I'm almost 99% sure that hiro and VE are scum.

Kurumi, can you confirm whether or not you did or did you not ACTUALLY SHOOT Schworz... Something about that interaction still doesnt seem right to me, it just doesnt click...

Also, someone mentioned earlier that they were suspicious of me for commenting on the Grundy/Penguin relationship... Thats because ive played (and loved) the game, not inside knowledge of anysort -_-
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 17 2012 01:40 GMT
#3633
VE: I think you're scum, but i don't want to lynch you or give anyone even a passing reason to lynch you at this point. I'll make my case for you after the day ends.

Jayjay: I didnt put you in my 99% scum because of that, because the case against you is comparatively a lot weaker than against Hiro and VE, but I have been, and still am, getting a scummy vibe off your posts... On my mafiameter, you rank about a 60% chance of being scum >_<... I can't deny you do have a better success rate than Toad, XD

(mafiameter numbers are completely subjective and subject to change )
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 17 2012 06:32 GMT
#3678
VE because I promised:

VE:

Day 1 - Mafiameter: 50% scum
- gets defensive about people voting without a reason on him, so votes without a reason on them...
- votes for layabout(green) with a very weak reason (not contributing anything) when theres lots of people like that... 60%
- doesn't want to call Sheth scummy and only wants to vote for him if he doesn't do anything... 65%
- Eventually does switch to Sheth day 1... 60%
- Is surprised by the phone network... Could be feigned, but seems genuine... 50%
- Goes hardcore after Sheth, however:
- Funny chain of posts (pg 34-35) in a row... coincidence?:
- Radfield votes Sheth
- Hiro votes Sheth
- Sheth posts analysis of CC
- VE posts pushing Sheth lynch hardddd
65%

Night 1 - 65% scum
- continues to push Sheth hard, mentions Hiro as a possible lynch target... 60%

Day 2 - 60% scum
- Very very excited about the prospect of a Sheth lynch finally happening
- Gets defensive very easily again... passive aggression is annoying
- Wants to see Sheth dead, and is decently considering a Hiro lynch still...
- Gets into a small bicker with Bugs and considers going after him... 55%

Night 2 - 55% scum
- Wants to go superhard after Palmar... Stupid line...
- "I'm telling you guys, we should lynch Palmar tomorrow. I think he's scum. I think we should take the possibility that he's third-party as evidence that he's not town and just get rid of him. Don't waste bullets on him either in case he is the bats."
- WTF? Town gains nothing by lynching Batman, he's our best hope of nailing Hugo... Scum meanwhile, should be very scared of him - 60%

Day 3 - 60% scum - The Day of Reckoning
- VEHEMENTLY defends Radfield and goes after Palmar, the WORST case of this amongst everyone out there - 80% scum
- Is willing to get hiro lynched instead of Radfield - 75%
- VERY quickly changes votes from Palmar who he's been super pushing for a full day to me and then Chaoser based on Kita's claim - 90$ scum

Night 3 - 90% scum
- Still pushing for a Palmar lynch even though he's confirmed Batman and Joker is more or less dead
- killing a pro-town power role for no real reason??
- Gets super emotional again... ia annoying, but not necessarily scummy
- Wants people to kill JayBrundage randomly, just because his vote didnt actually switch? wtf?

Day 4 -
- Still wants to go after Hiro... This is the only part of him that doesnt make sense to me
- Only really makes sense if lynching Hiro would get VE shittons of towncred, maybe?
- maybe Hiro's Hugo and VE is Deadshot??
- Agrees with Kurumi lynch though, and its the most sane thing to do today

----------------

Summary: Everything except for your Hiro push seems shady to me.A few things, namely all of Day 3, seem pretty scummy. While it might be explainable from you that you REALLY didnt think Radfield was a DT, that seems like a weak excuse simply because of the tons of holes in the whole Radfield situation that others saw and pointed out, yet you kept blindly believing Rad. Pushing to lynch Batman when its pointless, and the initial Sheth lynch voting order chain that seems almost like a scum meeting decided to bus him, makes me almost 90% (not 99% i guess, exaggeration ) certain that you are scum. However, I can't say 100% because of your push on Hiro, whom i definitely think 100% is scum
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 01:31 GMT
#3722
Err, you misunderstood my numbers, i put the percentage anytime i changed my opinion, basically it means x% chance to be scum as opposed to something pointless, and it changes multiple times per day... Its there to help show where my mind was at different points with respect to your alignment

Someone PLEASE shoot hiro tonight, otherwise i'll be a very sad panda
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 01:35 GMT
#3723
See the numbers as progressive, not as random averages, they grow/decrease each relevant action... I understand they probably werent as clear as they could be, but the long wall of text to try and diver the hit from yourself with, in general, vague reasons, got you another 5%... Up to 95% certainty now...

Would someone also shoot VE please??
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 02:49 GMT
#3725
Then you shouldnt have f***ing asked me why i was 99% sure you were scum... You're beginning to frustrate me -_-
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 04:21 GMT
#3737
F*** yeah, I KNEW IT VE, I EFFING KNEW IT!!! :D
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 04:40 GMT
#3739
Kita: I know you're obs-ing this...

F*** you... Seriously... You and your stupid game... lol
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#3741
Summary for everyone:

Overall 10 people left, listing below... 3 Scum, 7 Town... Scum has 2 KP, we have one Vigi left... Riddlers shots will go into effect this night based on his game, the three people who fail at his game (one of whom seems to be me =_=)

Evantrees - Scummy
-_-quails - realized why people keep calling him qualis, BC misspelled his name on the filter list >_<
forumite - Penguin
rgtheschworz - Mr. Freeze
Katina - No clue
Adam4167 - Very pro-town
Hiro Protagonist - Very scummy, but VE was pushing for his lynch :S
Jayjay54 - His defensiveness reminds me of VE, lol...
jaybrundage - VE was pushing to lynch him
RayzorFlash - Vanilla town

This is confusing because a lot of the people left alive have been super lurky, theres very few people with more than 2 pages in their filter... It might end up just being a crapshoot...
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 05:25 GMT
#3742
EBWOP: (one of whom seems likely to be me =_=)
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 19:47 GMT
#3769
The riddler game is still ongoing, and it seems like i'm the only one in it... I'm also likely to die to it because Kita made it hard as hell for someone to escape the game on the last day -_-

Evan: I had two scum reads on the day we lynched Radfield... Rad and Chaoser. I also made the mistake of taking Kita at his word and was willing to first get myself lynched, and second lynch chaoser, in order to unlock those 3 KPs which I felt would be incredibly valuable. Meanwhile, your reason to vote for Chaoser was pointless and weak.

Jayjay: Lol, I don't hate you, your last defense post was very solid and I don't think you're scum... I was just pointing out the similarity between your behavior and VE's behavior... It's not scummy to the point of me thinking you're scum, but its still scummier than other people

I agree with the stuff about Schworz... The ONE thing we're relying on for a town-read from him is that Kurumi shot him night 1... If that's untrue, my entire town-read of him crumbles apart... At this point, I'm likely to believe that he's scum moreso than town, just because we know that Kurumi was going for his win condition and doing everything in his power to draw out his targets, and he hinted at leaving a poison pill behind...

My vote goes on Evantrees. Why exactly do you think I'm scum again?? I read through your filter and you have no real reason in there whatsoever... You're voting for me only because I wasn't voting for Radfield? By that logic, you should be scum too, because thats exactly what you did :S

Would also be fine with voting Hiro and Schworz... Hiro is like a WIFOM machine over and over and over...
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 18 2012 19:48 GMT
#3770
EBWOP:

##Vote: Evantrees
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 19 2012 07:04 GMT
#3775
I can't vouch for why Ico voted for CC though... If Ico wants to come in here and explain why he did, he's welcome to, I can only speak for my own actions, and so thats what I do
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 19 2012 16:51 GMT
#3801
Sounds like a good plan to me... I'd like to lynch Hiro then...

##unvote evantrees
##vote hiro protagonist

RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 20 2012 00:18 GMT
#3884
Correct any of my back-of-the-hand math if you spot a problem. Note: i'm purposefully not counting veterans because there'd be too many possibilities then

Best case scenario for us tonight would be to lynch a scum, and shoot a scum. That would bring Mafia down to 1KP, and even losing 2 people to scum hits tonight, plus at least one town dying to the riddler game, we'd still be able to win(I'm totally stumped by Kita's game... Pretty sure I die tonight) with a 4-1 distribution tomorrow

Using both a lynch and a shot to get just 1 scum, we'd be down to 4-2, with scum STILL HAVING 2 KP putting us in LYLO
Worst case, we get no scum with lynch or shot, and we go down 4-3, more or less unrecoverable from...

Hence, after doing some math, we should aim to both lynch and shoot scum instead of using both the lynch and the shot to catch just the one scum from Evan/Jay. I would suggest lynching the one person who seems scummiest, and then shooting the scummier of jay/evan/hiro from who's left to confirm.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#3886
I dunno, i just think we might end up cutting it a bit too close with that in terms of how many KPs mafia will have available...

Meh, I'll be around to change my vote to whatever we decide... Leaving it on Hiro for now because theres no consensus as of yet
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 20 2012 01:27 GMT
#3890
Yes forumite, i'd be much more inclined for you to shoot one of Evantrees/JB tonight, that way we can possibly get a scum lynched and another scum shot... If we can kill two scum by tomorrow day, we should be in a really REALLY good position. If we get 1 scum 1 town, we'll be in an okay position too because we get info, but it'll leave us with no room for error. The only way this plan comes to bite us is if Hiro is town, and I sincerely doubt it...

Jaybrundage, are you still in the riddler game, or did you get out?? If anyone else is still in the riddler game please post here. Kita's role PM said 8 people were in it, but he only listed 5... Is it possible that one of the 3 other people who was in it is still alive? I'm asking because i want to figure out the worst case scenario after tonight
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