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vaderseven
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On January 29 2012 11:23 Lanaia wrote: Def want to hear from scamp. Will try to postbefore workbut no promises. Need sleep. Anyone know if there's a refresh function on the android system? Press the button that brings up settings screens or what not (usually a physical button) and refresh should be an option. | ||
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vaderseven
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Who, if anyone, didn't touch the lurker issue at all? Why did I look for this? Cuz a scum player would surely see attacking lurkers as an ultra risky strat, especially day 1. redff never mentions lurking once. Refallen never mentions lurking once. Jackal58 never mentions lurking once. Zephirdd never mentions lurking once. Cwave never mentions lurking once. On January 26 2012 14:04 GGQ wrote: About finding mafia, we can't rely so much on finding scum by linking players together. Even if scum gets lynched, we can't be sure whether their defenders were scum or misguided town because scum don't know (at least not 100%) who their partners are. So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking. Scum will be the players trying to ride the line between been too scummy and getting lynched or being too towny and getting shot. Town, on the other hand, shouldnt be afraid of shots so they'll be the towniest towns. GGQ is outright saying that scum arent lurkers. On January 28 2012 08:46 Lanaia wrote: All you have on Meapak is that he's been lurking. That says shit all for his alignment. I am not moving my vote onto meapak, at least not today. We have about 15min to deadline. It's highly unlikely to get the lynch you want at this point in time. You're tunneling. Why didn't you do this earlier in the day? Your logic doesn't feel completely sound to me. Holy hell you are tunneling so badly. You should have been pushing him all day. I don't like how you're acting and it actually really frightens me. How. The. Fuck.... How is MZ hustling? Lanaia feels that lurking doesnt say a thing about align. So I count that as a FOS worthy fact especially at GGQ and Lanaia. Lurking has EXTREMELY clear plus sides for a scum player in this setup and there is HUGE plus sides for a scum player to establish that it is ok to lurk or that saying lurking isnt a good scum strat. Lurking is probably the only non breadcrumb way (at least day 1) for the scum to say IM SCUM day 1. It prevents them, from killing each other. This point has already been made but it deserves to be in this post next to these players names. Once again: redff never mentions lurking once. Refallen never mentions lurking once. Jackal58 never mentions lurking once. Zephirdd never mentions lurking once. Cwave never mentions lurking once. GGQ says that lurkers are not scum because the scum will not want to lurk. Lanaia says that lurking is a null tell on alignment. | ||
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vaderseven
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GGQ. You have 15 total posts in this thread. Your first 4 posts have nothing to do with this game. You have filler posts like this in there: On January 26 2012 14:05 GGQ wrote: We actually have no confirmation of any medics, and it looks like there's only one KP so there might not be a medic at all. On January 27 2012 04:48 GGQ wrote: Jackal and logic have never gotten along well together. On January 29 2012 06:15 GGQ wrote: Seriously, bud, stop being such an asshole. It's completely unnecessary regardless of your alignment. I might not be back before lynch, so if I die I suspect bumatlarge, Cwave, and blazinghand. After that look at redFF, refallen and lanaia. Some of those aren't completely unrelated to the game but they are at best comments on things already said that do not help in the least in finding scum. So 5 throw away filler posts, 4 posts not about the game and 6 real posts. You are lurking so hard and you have also claimed that the scum won't be lurkers even though it is very VERY clear (and was pointed out a long time ago) why the scum will want to lurk. Scum. Found. ##vote GGQ | ||
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vaderseven
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Hey guys, Lurkers aren't scum don't worry look for people that aren't lurking and lynch them. BRB I need to lurk a shit ton. He literally said that. Literally. | ||
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vaderseven
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G'Night thread see you guys tomorrow. | ||
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vaderseven
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On January 30 2012 00:20 Zephirdd wrote: @V7 wtf bro http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792¤tpage=16#314 Of course I mention lurkers, what I don't do is to copy-and-paste the thoughts that Lurking is REALLY scummy this game, because it was said two or three times already. @redFF What the fuck? õ_o Considering Greymist is a host, I'd assume it's a role in the terms of "I can only investigate someone who voted me" from Steamship Liquida, did I hit it spot on? :D VOTECOUNT Bah sorry I was reading too fast then last night. My vote and points and still valid. | ||
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vaderseven
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On January 30 2012 02:18 Scamp wrote: Well this is just awesome, I wake up to a smattering of votes. While four of you have it right, I'm now suspicious of vaderseven, Refallen, and Jackal58. Don't pretend that the Radfield debacle isn't important or a good source of information. Refallen may get a reprieve here depending on what happens with redFF, but I personally don't get what he's doing at all. If he has some kind of power that activates when people vote him, then why doesn't he ask for everyone to vote him? The rules don't actually say anything about when the lynch ends, I think it's just at the end of the day. I don't think there's any kind of majority hammer. Also this seriously caught my eye. How exactly do you figure this? ?? Whats your suspicion of me based on? I dont like random FOS at people, give reasons! I think that the radfield lycnh is ofc a valid source of info but I think GGQ is getting away with some seriously scummy shit here. I would be doing such a huge disservice to notice that shit and not comment on it. GGQ says that lurkers arent scummy and that scum will post enough to not be called lurkers. With the setup in mind, lurking is so pro scum that I dont even know how he felt able to say that except in order to cover for the scummy move of lurking... which he is doing. | ||
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vaderseven
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On January 30 2012 08:25 GGQ wrote: No time to chat, Cwave is scum, see you all tomorrow. This guy cant seriously get away with this can he? | ||
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vaderseven
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On January 30 2012 08:44 Lanaia wrote: Red doesn't feel like how he normally feels when I think he's scum and when I think he's scum he's usually town so I think he's probably actually scum right now. But we'll see eventually. Dear god game solved gg. (joking ofc) | ||
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vaderseven
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Anyways, ill be posting in like 2 hours. | ||
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vaderseven
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sick | ||
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vaderseven
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vaderseven
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.... -_- ##vote GGQ | ||
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vaderseven
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On February 02 2012 02:07 Jackal58 wrote: My scum list was 3 I hadn't voted for. And my vote is going to go on Refallen. redFF seemed to be begging for another vote. Fwiw I don't really see red as scum. I'm just calling him scum to piss him off. Cause that's like a hobby of mine. This post will probably be the reason I end up voting you over GGQ. A hobby of yours? Wtf man so your hobby is to post lies to piss people off? | ||
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vaderseven
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Is GGQ up for being modkilled at this point for inactivity? | ||
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vaderseven
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vaderseven
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I think that sounds just fine! | ||
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vaderseven
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There is constant accusations of associations and how loud player X is scum or loud player Y is dumb and X isn’t scum but loud player Z is actually the scum. People are ignoring a lot that has been said in favor of calling each other names and the like. Basically, I think this town, no this whole thread, has become completely filled with useless conjecture that isn’t based in sound logic concerning the setup and the actions of the people in it. I am going to make an effort to bring the discussion back to that now. Some conclusions that I am operating on that the people in this thread need to at least consider: The mafia are going to act very independently this game. With that in mind the mafia players are each going to act WAY more self serving than even in a traditional game. They have to. Another thing, saying if one person is scum/town then another is scum/town is a stupid course of action in this setup. Yes stupid. The reason that we haven’t lynched a single scum AND that scum haven’t killed one of their own is simply because the scum are laying low. I pointed this out before and I even found the single player that is abusing this idea to the highest level. This was ignored in favor of lynching a person who claimed to not have had time to read for very long before vote was required or he would be mod killed. As if it would make any sense for a scum player that is playing to win to pop in and last second vote AND to draw huge amounts of attention to it. Such a gambit would only make sense in a setup where the mafia has access to power roles that manipulate night actions (framer roleblocker) (if you think the mafia DOES have such PRs say so, I take it as a balance issue for them not to… did the previous sleeper cell game have mafia power roles?). The mafia don’t know who each other are and they don’t want to be lynched. Starting with the start of day 2, it became clear that lurking was going to be largely acceptable because we had ‘better’ targets to lynch. With the loud players voting off other loud players and the mafia killing off loud players… it seems the only ones that have an easy way to live out their days is the silent lurkers. Starting with today, I will be pressuring everyone to justify GGQ’s actions as anything that isn’t anti-town because I cannot see a single reason for a player to play like he is except one of a self preserving nature. So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking. GGQ said that on day 1. I brought this up before, but it needs to be brought up again. This is a complete scum post. It outlines a way of lynching players that are not lurkers as a primary goal. Other than that, GGQ only deems it worthy to post one liners and to randomly throw FOS out at multiple people at a time with no evidence. He is creating confusion while adding nothing at all to any case. He also posted a one liner calling a case on him shit. HE goes inactive for a long time and then drops in to say and I quote: Did you think I was joking when I said I had no time to chat? Sorry but I think it’s honestly pretty obvious at this point. The people that are scummiest are the people that everyone is talking about lynching. My god. How did you guys let him get away with this? The most he gives us to add to a discussion yesterday is that his gut instinct is to vote meapak/scamp. He does this after a sheep vote on refallen gets called scummy. That was also a last minute vote. If you have NOT read his filter, you are being a lazy moron. Its short and boring and adds nothing new about anything other than the fact that it confirms that he is lynching and sheeping his way out of every lime light. Come on guys, it’s the town’s job to prevent the scum from lurking a way to victory and in this setup we should be MORE wary of it not less. That or we can go back to seeing which loud case about a loud player generates the most votes from the people that post small tidbits and then all sheep onto that person. That seems to be working out pretty well (for the scum). ##vote GGQ | ||
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vaderseven
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