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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 00:13 GMT
#688
On January 31 2012 08:51 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 08:47 jaybrundage wrote:
You right this big post about how no one has any good arguments against you. And how you are a bad lynch.

But in your scum list i was the second person (after VE/Palmar)

So put a case against me then against anyone. Complaining that your a bad lynch isnt helping anyone. How about you scum hunt instead of going on.

Fuck you


Saying things like this is only hurting you. If you are really town you will change your attitude, start being more constructive and scum hunt.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 10:36 GMT
#697
On January 31 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
actually, if anyone has a bullet, killing layabout or LSB isn't a bad idea.


Killing layabout is a bad idea, because he is only likely to give away 1 vote. Thus, town loses 4 votes.

Killing LSB is ok, because we will only lose 1 vote.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 16:34 GMT
#706
On January 31 2012 19:41 prplhz wrote:
Killing people isn't about who has this or that many votes, it's about hitting scum. Doesn't matter how many votes they have then.

Point taken.

On January 31 2012 21:09 Palmar wrote:
yeah, what's better? living scum with 4 votes or dead scum with 4 votes?

This is rhetorical.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 20:25 GMT
#739
On February 01 2012 04:30 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:25 Dirkzor wrote:
The reason I did not want to vote was to not give someone else the oppotunity to hammer. I wanted the day to last longer and posted about that later aswell. That post you quoted about me criticizing VE was a post to Lay not VE.
I also can't see why I was non-committal. I said I found VE way mroe scummy then Palmar and would put my vote on him - but didnt due to hammer mechanic.


You yourself stated only that you didn't want to hammer the vote even though your vote wouldn't have hammered. This added reason of "I did not want to vote because I didn't want SOMEONE ELSE to hammer" was not mentioned then and so I can not willingly believe this point since it has only just now been introduced.


You are reaching.

I did the same thing. I pulled my vote on VE because the votes on VE were nearing majority. I didn't want someone to accidentally hammer, like layabout did.

Side note: When quoting it is nice to have the name at the top of the quote to see who is saying what.


On February 01 2012 05:15 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 05:09 risk.nuke wrote:
LSB was palmars target when VE played his crazy move which to me seems to have been made out of desperation. That makes LSB look really bad.
On other accounts I view both LSB and Layabout as just about the same.
*Alot of act, little under the hood.
*Questionable behavior.


But palmar's only real argument against LSB is that he gave his vote to layabout. When compared to what layabout has done and posted, I don't think it's the same condemning thing at all.


Possibilites for VE's actions:
1. VE sacrificed himself for LSB.
2. VE is telling the truth and was hit by a vig. Note: vig has not come forward.
3. VE is telling the truth and was hit by mafia, thus Palmar is fake-claiming a hit in some elaborate mafia scheme to become virtually confirmed town.
4. VE just decided to start trolling out of nowhere.

I differ to occam's razor here.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 20:34 GMT
#741
On February 01 2012 05:30 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 05:25 Paperscraps wrote:
On February 01 2012 04:30 chaoser wrote:
On February 01 2012 04:25 Dirkzor wrote:
The reason I did not want to vote was to not give someone else the oppotunity to hammer. I wanted the day to last longer and posted about that later aswell. That post you quoted about me criticizing VE was a post to Lay not VE.
I also can't see why I was non-committal. I said I found VE way mroe scummy then Palmar and would put my vote on him - but didnt due to hammer mechanic.


You yourself stated only that you didn't want to hammer the vote even though your vote wouldn't have hammered. This added reason of "I did not want to vote because I didn't want SOMEONE ELSE to hammer" was not mentioned then and so I can not willingly believe this point since it has only just now been introduced.


You are reaching.

I did the same thing. I pulled my vote on VE because the votes on VE were nearing majority. I didn't want someone to accidentally hammer, like layabout did.

Side note: When quoting it is nice to have the name at the top of the quote to see who is saying what.


On February 01 2012 05:15 chaoser wrote:
On February 01 2012 05:09 risk.nuke wrote:
LSB was palmars target when VE played his crazy move which to me seems to have been made out of desperation. That makes LSB look really bad.
On other accounts I view both LSB and Layabout as just about the same.
*Alot of act, little under the hood.
*Questionable behavior.


But palmar's only real argument against LSB is that he gave his vote to layabout. When compared to what layabout has done and posted, I don't think it's the same condemning thing at all.


Possibilites for VE's actions:
1. VE sacrificed himself for LSB.
2. VE is telling the truth and was hit by a vig. Note: vig has not come forward.
3. VE is telling the truth and was hit by mafia, thus Palmar is fake-claiming a hit in some elaborate mafia scheme to become virtually confirmed town.
4. VE just decided to start trolling out of nowhere.

I differ to occam's razor here.

are you serious?


Mind expanding on that question?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 20:46 GMT
#743
VE may have sacrificed, because LSB is a PR mafia, while VE was vanilla mafia. I agree that it is a bit strange, but the late hit cc, which changed to a hit cc and role claim doesn't sit right with me either.

layabout seems to have given up to an extent. If I was really town I would fight to the bitter end.

LSB isn't pushing for his balancing mechanism which we has adamant about earlier. The whole game he has been pushing his plans, but now that he is under the gun he hasn't said anything very coherent.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
January 31 2012 20:56 GMT
#745
Also currently LSB has 2 votes and layabout 5.

If you are under suspicion, then the town thing to do is give all your votes away to your most pro-town read. layabout made it pretty clear he is only going to trade 1 VP. LSB can only trade 1 VP so this point is null for him.

If we lynch LSB tomorrow we will only lose 1 vote.

If we lynch layabout we lose 4 votes, but if we wait to lynch layabout on D4 we only lost 3 votes and get further analysis on layabouts VP trades to find the final scum.

Anyone trading VP to either layabout or LSB is suicide.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 00:34 GMT
#774
@layabout I just want to point something out. There are 4+ players that want you to trade all of your votes away. Even if you are green and the mafia is ganging up on you with the whole VP trade idea, there has to be town players that want you to trade the votes away as well.

Obviously if you are town you will have the same vested interest as these town players. Stop posting filler and find someone that is scummier than you! Convince us!

I understand I am repeating things said above, but pride is a dangerous thing in mafia. Sometimes repetition and emphasis is the best medicine.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 00:37 GMT
#775
I have a feeling I am going to die tonight.

Popcorn time!

"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:14 GMT
#781
Should I wait to post to see if I died or not?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#786
interesting....

So vig kill reveals alignment?

I gave 2 votes to risk.nuke. For being pro-town.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#789
LOL layabout with 10 votes....hmmmm
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#790
also i was roleblocked.

##Vote layabout

if it isnt already apparent...
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:32 GMT
#793
##unvote layabout

hmm...I need to think about this for a second...something seems way to easy.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:44 GMT
#798
Yeah, it looks like the votes given to Palmar were siphoned to layabout.

Now I see why layabout was so adamant that we wasn't going to give votes away, to justify having soo many today. Anyways layabout needs to die.

##Vote layabout
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:46 GMT
#803
On February 01 2012 10:44 Paperscraps wrote:
Yeah, it looks like the votes given to Palmar were siphoned to layabout.

Now I see why layabout was so adamant that we wasn't going to give votes away, to justify having soo many today. Anyways layabout needs to die.

##Vote layabout


My only reservation is that the mafia knows we will see right through this power play.

WIFOM
Is mafia setting up layabout or is layabout in on it?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:48 GMT
#805
On February 01 2012 10:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Our Hero has fallen D:

Wait shouldnt Prplhz still have his votes because palmar died during the night? Im confused about this.

Also I gave one vote to Jackal58 because i have a town read on him.

Paperscraps why would you give risk.nuke votes when palmars reads were on risk.nuke being possible scum?\



Palmar thought risk.nuke was scum, because he suggested a no lynch and layabout traded 1 vote to him. I don't agree.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:51 GMT
#808
On February 01 2012 10:50 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 10:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:44 Paperscraps wrote:
Yeah, it looks like the votes given to Palmar were siphoned to layabout.

Now I see why layabout was so adamant that we wasn't going to give votes away, to justify having soo many today. Anyways layabout needs to die.

##Vote layabout


My only reservation is that the mafia knows we will see right through this power play.

WIFOM
Is mafia setting up layabout or is layabout in on it?


I think that they were expecting this to be THE game ending power play though.

I mean...given layabout's play through the game, I'm 90% certain he's mafia.


Yes I agree. I just like to think of all possibilities. It is just how my brain works.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:53 GMT
#810
I am sooo glad I didn't trade my votes to Palmar haha.

No offense to the cowboy of course.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
February 01 2012 01:57 GMT
#812
People you need to vote up layabout now! Anyone with that many votes is dangerous. layabout has been against us all game.

He is anti-town.

Palmar was killed last night proving his innocence. Mafia new people would be trading a lot of votes to him.

There is no discussion.

If you are town you will neutralize the threat layabout presents.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
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