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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 07 2011 17:46 GMT
#48
/in
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#69
risk.nuke says: Kill the hydra day 1.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#147
On December 12 2011 06:15 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Wait I'm not GM?! oh.. you think I'm LiquidSheth?!

I'm actually just his friend typing on his account. He doesn't really type much on TL ever, so he said I could use it....

I hope thats not a problem? He said because I like mafia so much that I could use it and that here would be an awesome place to play it. Was this not ok? Should I have said this from the start? :X

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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 11 2011 22:00 GMT
#162
Kita, please make me a hydra bane.

You are Herkules. You spent your childhood beeing neglected by your father, the king. You hate hydras. Day 1 you may kill all the hydras. Also your unlynchable due to your half-god blood. You can choose to ignore democracy and lynch whoever you want cause you're crazy strong.

In addition everything that the townies say must praise either your strenght, your intelligence or your unmatched sexual prowess.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 11 2011 22:14 GMT
#165
On December 12 2011 07:12 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 12 2011 07:00 risk.nuke wrote:
Kita, please make me a hydra bane.

You are Herkules. You spent your childhood beeing neglected by your father, the king. You hate hydras. Day 1 you may kill all the hydras. Also your unlynchable due to your half-god blood. You can choose to ignore democracy and lynch whoever you want cause you're crazy strong.

In addition everything that the townies say must praise either your strenght, your intelligence or your unmatched sexual prowess.


you need torches to stick in the hydra's severed heads.

Thats how he did it.

I'm recruiting gm's smurf army. they're in the torches & forkpitch business,
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 11 2011 22:54 GMT
#170
On December 12 2011 07:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hm, so question that is somewhat important, have any of you guys been to any live events and played mafia with TL there? o o

I haven't gone to alot of event, I got friends in DHC so I was intending on going this winter but I got elsewhere occupied. I'll likely go next time and if I do mafia will be played and I'll prepare some sane and some slightly less sane roles.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 02:39 GMT
#190
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are a member of the general electorate! You may not have any special powers, but if you and your senior citizen friends band together, you can become a serious force at the voting booths. You win with town.

Kita you messed up my role, I'm not hercules.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 13:13 GMT
#280
Curu how can you say Palmars scumplay is obvious? Anyway, okey so basicly Radfield spoke up first on the vote veterans topic and none of the other had any disagreement. Of the involved players I feel most sure on Radfield and we should work together to ensure he becomes Pardoner. I'm not sure who else I want to elect. I don't want to see the Deus-ex or TnTp in office because I think they will be to tough to get a read on. I'm still onsure on The Professor and Arctocod but both I'm leaning against for office

Also GiygaS is scummy bastard.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 13:50 GMT
#282
On December 12 2011 22:42 Arctocod wrote:
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On December 12 2011 22:13 risk.nuke wrote:
Curu how can you say Palmars scumplay is obvious? Anyway, okey so basicly Radfield spoke up first on the vote veterans topic and none of the other had any disagreement. Of the involved players I feel most sure on Radfield and we should work together to ensure he becomes Pardoner. I'm not sure who else I want to elect. I don't want to see the Deus-ex or TnTp in office because I think they will be to tough to get a read on. I'm still onsure on The Professor and Arctocod but both I'm leaning against for office

Also GiygaS is scummy bastard.

This is rather confusing; why are you voting for radfield and why are you leaning against us for office? While both are perfectly reasonable stances to take, I'm curious as to why you reached this conclusion. You like Radfield's "vote for veterans plan", but apparently he is the only "veteran" who is acceptable to you? What in radfield's one post specificially made you sure of him?

Beause he spoke up first. I don't like hydras, curu said your scumplay was obvious which straight out isn't true and you prepared with this which I jusst didn't get a good feeling about.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 13:52 GMT
#283
My lesson starts now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 16:32 GMT
#308
On December 13 2011 00:13 zeks wrote:
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On December 13 2011 00:11 GiygaS wrote:
On December 12 2011 23:56 zeks wrote:
Note that the mayor has 2 votes, 1 being hidden

And he can decide ties

So in essence in some cases its like having 3 votes (in close voting races) so the mayor is a really really strong role compared to Pardoner.

Get Radfield to Mayor

and Arc or whoever to Pardoner

I have very little time, so I can only write a few sentences. So how the hell does a potential 3 votes beat the ability to crush all votes? It means he can save 2 scummates from being lynched!


Any pardoner who uses a pardon is to be auto-lynched the next day

No exceptions

Exception 1. mass last minute vote switch.
Questionable Exception 2. Everyone agrees on lynching someone, then occurs a last hour voteswitch when some keyplayers are unavailable.

I don't need to add that I also think hydras should sign their posts.
On December 12 2011 22:55 Arctocod wrote:
For the record, that was syllogism. I suppose we could start tagging our posts. I do not find your answer satisfactory as speaking up first says very little about his alignment.

None of my answers for anything or just some of them?
Furthermore I never said I liked Rafields plan, I liked the fact that he said something and everyone else mutualy agrees on it which indicates it was a pro-town action ergo pro-town play. Do you belive Deus-ex and TnTp hydras will be easy to get a read of?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 16:50 GMT
#313
On December 13 2011 01:42 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
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On December 13 2011 01:32 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 13 2011 00:13 zeks wrote:
On December 13 2011 00:11 GiygaS wrote:
On December 12 2011 23:56 zeks wrote:
Note that the mayor has 2 votes, 1 being hidden

And he can decide ties

So in essence in some cases its like having 3 votes (in close voting races) so the mayor is a really really strong role compared to Pardoner.

Get Radfield to Mayor

and Arc or whoever to Pardoner

I have very little time, so I can only write a few sentences. So how the hell does a potential 3 votes beat the ability to crush all votes? It means he can save 2 scummates from being lynched!


Any pardoner who uses a pardon is to be auto-lynched the next day

No exceptions

Exception 1. mass last minute vote switch.
Questionable Exception 2. Everyone agrees on lynching someone, then occurs a last hour voteswitch when some keyplayers are unavailable.

I don't need to add that I also think hydras should sign their posts.
On December 12 2011 22:55 Arctocod wrote:
For the record, that was syllogism. I suppose we could start tagging our posts. I do not find your answer satisfactory as speaking up first says very little about his alignment.

None of my answers for anything or just some of them?
Furthermore I never said I liked Rafields plan, I liked the fact that he said something and everyone else mutualy agrees on it which indicates it was a pro-town action ergo pro-town play. Do you belive Deus-ex and TnTp hydras will be easy to get a read of?


i will be readable as always. i don't see a problem as long as hydras tag their posts.
whats wrong with radfields electionplan?

I never said there is something wrong with it either, If I would had it would had been very clear because I would had provided arguments, ergo you can conclude I did never in any way say there is something wrong with it. I merely didn't want words put in my mouth.

Deus. what you said was an inch from basicly twisting that into claiming I said something is wrong with Radfields plan.
FoS
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 17:09 GMT
#318
On December 13 2011 02:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
risk, your fos on my is disturbing and stupid. new players read "fos" and put me on their lists. you said you never said that you like radfields plan. and i want to know why you dont say this.
i say it: i like radfields plan.

players like you lose games for town. fosing around without any reasons.
why dont you use your brain before you post.
i didnt attack you in the slightest. i didnt put words in your mouth. i only wanted that you tell me why you dont say that you like rads plan. its so simple. now take your incredibly stupid fos back stop derailing and answer my question:
why are you talking with no content?

If you're town then why are you forcing a disussion on this topic which is 100% useless and nothing but a distraction for town.
my fos is valid and it's not the fos'd ones job to question it. It's funny how someone who tells me to "think" before "I" post doesn't have time to reread your own and mark it!!
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 12 2011 20:34 GMT
#365
any kind of "those present should mutualy decide if to use pardon" is idiocy and a setup like that would only favor the mafia over town.

The pardoner will have to decide himself if he is going to use it or not, and if he pardons it's at his own risk. Forbidding it is idiocy but we should warn him that by using the abillity chances are high we'll kill him.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 14:54 GMT
#480
On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it?

About having only two candidates, quick glance it doesn't really mean much. If two good towncandidates gets selected fast enough it can be risky for mafia to push a third candidate without putting alot of mafia eggs in the basket. Altough honestly this time I feel it speaks in the favor of one of the candidates beeing mafia. Because if I were mafia and they were both town and someone else of the by radfield nominated veterans were mafia I would try to get that mafia veteran elected. While leaving other mafia out of it I would see if I can get townies to support it. Nothing to lose, everything to win. However nothing of that sort happend. There is also the possibilty that none of the listed veterans are mafia in which case the election would look pretty much like this but I deem that less likely. I think Arctocod is likely mafia but I'm not going to do anything about that now. He will have to play pro-town because I will watch him like a hawk.

Todays lynches I would like one of these two. Graymist and GiygaS. Though there is a dilemma. I am more sure on Graymist then on Giygas and we'll learn more from Graymists flip then Giygas. Against Graymist probably beeing a more valuable townie then Giygas.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#510
Another one throws in a halfhearted vote on Zentor, let me fastforward and tell you where this ends this continues. Another handfull of people halfheartedly vote for Zentor. Zentor flips town. We don't have a clue who the real mafia is. We can't use the list people who voted for Zentor to find mafia because there won't be alot of mafia in there.

@Harbinger: I read: I might throw a stupid vote but it's because I let my newbie friend choose.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 18:13 GMT
#515
On December 14 2011 03:09 GiygaS wrote:
So has the case on me been dropped? I just want to know if I should spend the time I have available right now defending myself or giving thoughs on wtf is going on right now.

You should always defend yourself. I've dropped nothing.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#518
@GiygaS: You seem very worried about the suspicions against you.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 18:26 GMT
#519
@Harbinger: It's bad for town because you admit you're not playing optimal which would be disussing it with your hydra which infact serves even more to get him interested in the game while saying you leave your vote to your newbie friend could be convenient for a mafia to justify a vote
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 18:43 GMT
#525
On December 14 2011 03:32 GiygaS wrote:
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On December 14 2011 03:24 risk.nuke wrote:
@GiygaS: You seem very worried about the suspicions against you.

Not really. :/

Your defense is not that of a townie who isn't worried. What I find most interesting isn't the conclusion to how you became innocent in what you wrote. But rather you didn't dismiss it as nonsese because honestly, there have been no case presented against you. Just me saying I think you are scum and I gave no reasoning. The interesting part to me is how you reacted. I don't think a townie who haven't read any reasoning against him would write a defense against nothing. It makes perfect sense for a mafia though. Becuase you were afraid you had missed something.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 19:16 GMT
#530
On December 14 2011 03:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, as to avoid the same mistake I made with prplhz... would you guys check what I'm been reading up on about risk.nuke.

His posts don't make much sense hes just wildly accusing whoever for no reason. He started off calling FoS on Deus-Ex and then drops it randomly and accuses Gylgas, TotallyNot2ppl, Arcto and a few others. A lot of just confusing things added in by him. I'm NOT saying hes mafia, just that I think his posts also show very little logic. And I'm simply pointing them out to the rest of you guys. Thoughts anyone ?

I dropped supersoft because I got a townread on his responses, sure they were idiotic but they were idiotic townie responses. However rather then screaming I THINK SUPERSOFT IS TOWN, I wanted to leave it. I could still had avoided saying that by using something more discrete but sigh, I just know this will come back so I'll say what I feel and be done with it. I'm not randomly accusing. I'm not accusing TnTp. A few others is just 1. Graymist.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 13 2011 21:33 GMT
#576
On December 14 2011 04:35 Arctocod wrote:
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On December 14 2011 04:16 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 03:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, as to avoid the same mistake I made with prplhz... would you guys check what I'm been reading up on about risk.nuke.

His posts don't make much sense hes just wildly accusing whoever for no reason. He started off calling FoS on Deus-Ex and then drops it randomly and accuses Gylgas, TotallyNot2ppl, Arcto and a few others. A lot of just confusing things added in by him. I'm NOT saying hes mafia, just that I think his posts also show very little logic. And I'm simply pointing them out to the rest of you guys. Thoughts anyone ?

I dropped supersoft because I got a townread on his responses, sure they were idiotic but they were idiotic townie responses. However rather then screaming I THINK SUPERSOFT IS TOWN, I wanted to leave it. I could still had avoided saying that by using something more discrete but sigh, I just know this will come back so I'll say what I feel and be done with it. I'm not randomly accusing. I'm not accusing TnTp. A few others is just 1. Graymist.


Hey risk.nuke, do you want to lynch sheth?

Sorry I was at the gym.
No, come on if he's town I would feel so bad. He comes to play mafia and we lynch him day 1.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 00:22 GMT
#615
On December 14 2011 09:15 MrZentor wrote:
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i hope annul will serve his purpose and be around at the lynch. I am still torn between zentor and risk...
last time i read risks filter he seemed to be town to me :-[


His reason for not voting Sheth is that he would feel bad if he wasn't mafia.
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Theory: They're both mafia?
They're both suspicious and he doesn't have a real reason to not kill him...
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On December 14 2011 04:35 Arctocod wrote:
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Hey risk.nuke, do you want to lynch sheth?

Sorry I was at the gym.
No, come on if he's town I would feel so bad. He comes to play mafia and we lynch him day 1.

Thats the cheapest punch anyone have ever thrown at me.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:01 GMT
#647
On December 14 2011 09:27 MrZentor wrote:
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Thats the cheapest punch anyone have ever thrown at me.


Can you give me a legitimate reason to not lynch Seth?

Zentor you're an idiot. need a reason for not to lynch a specific person day 1. And everybloody one else why is there still only 1 person with more then 1 votes.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#653
On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.

Ehh wtf move palmar?
On December 14 2011 09:52 GreYMisT wrote:
prp other than lurking, is there anything else they have done to warrent your suspicion?

I will be voting professor badass for pardone. He is the other (aside from radfield) who is most likely to be shot tonight, as i know curu + errandor can be troubling for scum later on in the game.

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:08 GMT
#656
On December 14 2011 10:05 MrZentor wrote:
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On December 14 2011 09:27 MrZentor wrote:
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Can you give me a legitimate reason to not lynch Seth?

Zentor you're an idiot. need a reason for not to lynch a specific person day 1. And everybloody one else why is there still only 1 person with more then 1 votes.


Many people have given evidence for why he is bad for the town and likely mafia.
Why don't you want to kill him?
Please give a legitimate reason.

No people have been given weak arse cases on why he is confusing the town and other lame halfhearted shit that mafia loves to participate in. Thats what that is. And if for no other reason especially because alot of people have been doing it.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:08 GMT
#657
On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.


can you explain this please?

I think you are scum.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:13 GMT
#669
On December 14 2011 10:11 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:08 prplhz wrote:
Town is obviously confused at this and since Arctocod has very likely gone to bed maybe host or cohost can answer some questions? Flavor indicates that Arctocod withdrew himself, is this just flavor or is it true?


The cause of Arctocod's withdraw will not be revealed

My guess is he is temporarily mute. He didn't write the withdrawal himself and in combination with him not posting right now. Palmar is usually around this time.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:19 GMT
#681
I'm running for pardoner because the town is in chaos. And when the town is in chaos is usualy when the scum minority can whisper what they want and let townies snowball it.

MrZentor your a fucking idiot for tunneling me. Because there are two scenarios, you are town and now you're tunneling the person who tried to stop your bandwagon. or you are scum and you're also tunneling the person who tried to stop your bandwagon. either way you should have a very good idea that I am town.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:25 GMT
#690
On December 14 2011 10:21 MrZentor wrote:
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person who tried to stop your bandwagon

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I think you are scum.


Right...

I'm going to ignore you unless you say something of great importance because you are an Idiot. That I think you are scum. are directed to graymist. And you're putting it there out of context.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:26 GMT
#692
@Idiot.
read this
On December 14 2011 03:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Another one throws in a halfhearted vote on Zentor, let me fastforward and tell you where this ends this continues. Another handfull of people halfheartedly vote for Zentor. Zentor flips town. We don't have a clue who the real mafia is. We can't use the list people who voted for Zentor to find mafia because there won't be alot of mafia in there.

@Harbinger: I read: I might throw a stupid vote but it's because I let my newbie friend choose.

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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 01:38 GMT
#716
On December 14 2011 10:28 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk.nuke what's your motivation for running for election?

Because I don't want the role to go into scumhands.
Also even though I'm not top tier, I'm not bad at this game. With the last hour panic I deem the chances of a scum beeing elected rather high. I'm still thinking this was a mafia abillity and that Palmar is muted. Mafia would had known the most likely person to get elected instead of Palmar would be you and I really don't like that nor Greymist opening up by voteing for you.

So to ensure that the role goes to a townie I ran myself. I didn't realise people though of me as scummy as they seem to do but then half the players in here wouldn't recognize scummy play if they saw it. Anyway right now my credit is beeing destroyed and that's most likely mafia influenced.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 01:47 GMT
#730
On December 14 2011 10:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around.


I still think whoever is elected into office still needs to be heavily watched. Pardoner is insanely strong in Mafia hands when it gets near the end of the game, we absolutely cannot allow a Mafia Pardoner to live even close to lylo.

Give me the position and watch me heavily, as I've said like a broken record if I am Town then this is hugely beneficial and if I am scum then I am already starting at a disadvantage. The Pardoner powers aren't going to be used until endgame (Townies have no reason to, Mafia can't until it ensures a victory) so you'll have plenty of time to read me before then.

risk your candidacy looks hella bad because you didn't even attempt to run in the first iteration of the election. Why weren't you worried then? Were you that sure of Radfield and Arctocod being Town? You said yourself before that you were against Arctocod for office, why didn't you run then to "keep it out of scum's hands?"

I didn't want to run then, and I think I've already explained the paniced state of the town 1 hour untill election.
Do anyone here belive that my running now is the secret mafia agenda/plan. Does it look well thought out, I'm running to throw a shoe in the machinery for the mafia and prevent their plan. Because they have an agenda, this is very likely a limited use abillity. They wouldn't throw it at us for fun.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 01:54 GMT
#739
Hello Nisani bandwagon. So instead of using the standard mafia escape rope. lynch the lurker, or lynching the idiot Zentor who seem to damn stupid to be mafia because they can coach him. Neither of these is a good person to lynch.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:02 GMT
#751
No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?

Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:06 GMT
#762
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On December 14 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around.


OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this.

ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best.

EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONER

Now we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.




We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him.

xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them.

catching up now...

look at how badass is looking for new bandwagon cases. Do you really want to risk putting him as pardoner?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:25 GMT
#792
On December 14 2011 11:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:06 risk.nuke wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around.


OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this.

ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best.

EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONER

Now we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.




We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him.

xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them.

catching up now...

look at how badass is looking for new bandwagon cases. Do you really want to risk putting him as pardoner?



This post wasn't made by ProfBA. What bandwagon are you reffering to?

It was a response to radfield. I'm reffering to that badass seemed pretty okey with lynching Nisani or Zentor.
Unrelated I am pissed of because nobody listens to me for shit when I say don't lynch Nisani or Zentor but the when someone of the veteran names pop up and say it you're all mesmerized. And surprsingly to me I'm just slightly mad over the me beeing ignored part but more angry at the town for beeing useless and just heed the veterans instead of thinking for themselves.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:26 GMT
#795
On December 14 2011 11:24 Eiii wrote:
I just saw the lynch thread

STOP VOTING FOR NISANI, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING SCUMMY

Had this been another game you would die for that comment.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:32 GMT
#808
On December 14 2011 11:29 Radfield wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:25 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:06 risk.nuke wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:
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On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around.


OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this.

ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best.

EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONER

Now we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.




We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him.

xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them.

catching up now...

look at how badass is looking for new bandwagon cases. Do you really want to risk putting him as pardoner?



This post wasn't made by ProfBA. What bandwagon are you reffering to?

It was a response to radfield. I'm reffering to that badass seemed pretty okey with lynching Nisani or Zentor.
Unrelated I am pissed of because nobody listens to me for shit when I say don't lynch Nisani or Zentor but the when someone of the veteran names pop up and say it you're all mesmerized. And surprsingly to me I'm just slightly mad over the me beeing ignored part but more angry at the town for beeing useless and just heed the veterans instead of thinking for themselves.



I honestly skim-read like the 6 pages from the election withdraw up to that post. I agree that ProBad looks somewhat scummy right now, but that's not the point. If he is town, he is a strong player and worth saving. Prplhz said it elsewhere, the goal was to remove Palmars and Syllo's protection, not necessarily to get one of their own at pardoner. That was an extremely powerful ability, and they just used it(and they should have, a Town elected rad+arcto is bad news for mafia). Pardoner is a BAD role for mafia to have, because we're going to be damn sure that any player who has it is lynched or confirmed long before they are dangerous.

Medics can protect Arcto and Professor, that should scare the scum of from going after them. That seems a hell of alot more safer then giving a role we have cluncluded time and time again is dangerous in scumhands to the professor.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:35 GMT
#817
As for lynching I just know greymist is scum. I've read his filter so many times I'll be able to start reciting them soon. Nobody can be said to be scum for sure but I feel ten times more strongly about grey then anyone else.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:39 GMT
#824
On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.

I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.

He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).

yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:42 GMT
#831
No scum would ever play the way I am doing right now. Scum doesn't want to be the ones who takes action. So say I'm scum and I lynch greymist who then would be town. Next day I would have to fight for my life not to get lynched not to mention all my town cred would be gone. Tell me that is scumplay.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#834
On December 14 2011 11:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:39 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.

I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.

He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).

yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.


You stopped it? Is that a fucking joke? In case you haven't noticed Nisani is still the leading wagon. It'd be infinitely easy for me if I were scum to bury myself on that wagon since I have a history of policy lynching Nisani/sinani.

lol, calling bullshit. Nisani is leading due to inactive people who went to sleep, like I should had done 3 hours ago. I was the first one to speak up against those wagons. and you're still trying to get me lynched.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 02:51 GMT
#850
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 03:00 GMT
#869
On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.


my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it.


If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now?

It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:04:16
December 14 2011 03:02 GMT
#876
On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.


my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it.


If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now?

It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum.


If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes?

the flawed logic...it burns me...

Instinct.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 03:04 GMT
#886
On December 14 2011 12:02 risk.nuke wrote:
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On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.


my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it.


If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now?

It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum.


If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes?

the flawed logic...it burns me...

Instinct.

And I said I was ten times more sure on you then on anyone else. and 100 times more so then on people like Nisani, Speccles and Zentor.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 03:16 GMT
#902
Atleast speccles is a better choice then Nisani and Zentor.
When radfield said that it became pretty much decided. Mafia had no way to stop or change that unlike the nisani and zentor cases. Also this should atleast give us some more info about radfield since he choose it by himself. Maybe rereading the thread will give some more info.
On December 14 2011 12:06 xsksc wrote:
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On December 14 2011 12:04 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 12:02 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.


my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it.


If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now?

It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum.


If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes?

the flawed logic...it burns me...

Instinct.

And I said I was ten times more sure on you then on anyone else. and 100 times more so then on people like Nisani, Speccles and Zentor.
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I hit the edit instead of quote button


and how can you possibly expect us to lynch someone purely based on your instinct with no evidence whatsoever?

What do you think you do day 1. Scumslips is wifom or chance, in the end what matters is instinct.
I'm sorry I haven't slept for a while and didn't have the energy to do better. I hoped you would realise how crystal clear it is that I am town and vote for him because my guess is as good as any and mine would atleast be from a townie and a proper guess instead of some mafia influenced bandwagon that will guarranteed hit a townie.
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risk.nuke
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December 14 2011 03:21 GMT
#905
*clap clap clap*
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risk.nuke
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December 14 2011 12:41 GMT
#964
On December 14 2011 12:31 Radfield wrote:
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On December 14 2011 12:24 zeks wrote:
Switching through 3~ish candidates in the last minutes is pretty bad Radfield

Hope it doesnt come to this tomorrow.


Yep, that seems to be my style these days

Day 1 is not my strong suit, but I can guarantee I will do better Day 2 I have plenty of time over the next few days.

If I was scum, I would doublestack Arctocod tonight. I highly recommend all medics cover them, it leaves mafia free to snipe other players, but I think that is an OK trade-off.

There is a chance that Arctocod removed themselves in order to buy town credit. I find this highly unlikely:

1. If Arctocod was scum, they would have removed me from office, as I am far more likely to find them out than any other player.

2. That would be a substantial waste of a very important role. We don't know what elections will be in the future, and some may be very beneficial for mafia to get. Using it now to buy a little town cred is a waste.

3. Mafia wants the elected roles filled with mafia. If they used the ability on themselves it simply allows a chance for a different townie to get elected.



.

@Rafield: You leave out the possibility that you might be scum. I really didn't like how you handled yesterday. And by that I mean you handled yesterday like as scum would handle yesterday.
@Arctocod It involves money and bribes
@Prplhz: Calm down, don't direct protection at a single person that's a waste. I think medics should focus on Arctocod me and Dropbear.

I find something as specific as the kidnapping term very suspicious. Deus-ex Your story is you took it from eventrees but you didn't question why he thought it was kidnapping, instead you choose to go use it yourself. I don't really buy that.
And sorry everyone else for my terrible performance yesterday. I had a couple of hours sleep, went up 5 am and the night post was 4 am so I was tired.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 14:52 GMT
#986
I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
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December 14 2011 15:20 GMT
#994
On December 15 2011 00:11 Arctocod wrote:
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On December 14 2011 23:52 risk.nuke wrote:
I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either.


Why are you so bad now? You're somtimes good?

As I said, I was terrible last night and I am sorry. Now I'm just trying to explain how my train of thoughts went last night. I don't think ViceraEyes is mafia, he was the instant bandwagon target after MrZentor. I know he was brought up before that but if he was mafia I think they would had stopped it. Arctocod reread what happend last night between Your withdrawal post and the nightpost, focus on Radfield and tell me what you think of his actions and consider Radfield was a person who had the entire town in his palm and he knew at anytime he could influenced anything to happen.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 16:02 GMT
#1002
On December 15 2011 00:48 prplhz wrote:
@risk.nuke Why do you think that medics should focus on Arctocod, you and DropBear. Why do you think DropBear is worth protecting, he's been useless so far. And you haven't been too impressive either as you acknowledge yourself. Why do you even think we have three medics, that would be hilariously OP combined with the elected officials.

I think it's unlikely we have more than one medic, but no matter what, if people have a way to protect Arctocod then they are going to do it. NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EXCUSES. If Arctocod dies tonight and later some medic claims to have protected the friendly neighborhood Balrog day1 because he "had a good feeling about him", then that medic dies. I think medics are pretty bad on this forum, so they need to have this explained to them with a sledge hammer.

Arctocod is a good scum hunter, and he's active, and we have no reason to believe that he's scum yet. Protect him.

26 player game, there is no telling how many protection roles we have but you're missing the mainpoint, if medics will be focusing on 3 people most likely mafia wont be willing to risk going after anyone of us. this is pretty basic. As for me, I am town and if I don't get medic protection or atleast mafia belives there is a chance i am protected and aren't willing to gamble a kp on me I will ket killed tonight. Mafia isn't as slow as town, they know it's just a matter of time before I convince you I am town, it will save them alot of trouble to get rid of me now before I have proven myself town and will have protection.

I think for a 26 man game with we'll have atleast 3 protective roles very possibly more, but I don't know what the blue roles look like. we might have something else to compensate but that doesn't matter. The important part is mafia don't know either and we can discourage them from going after either one of us 3.

Why dropbear. He's a good player, and I don't think he is scum. He will likely prove his worth if he lives.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 16:02 GMT
#1003
On December 15 2011 00:53 Arctocod wrote:
I approve of explaining with sledgehammers.

Who do you want sledged in the face?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#1007
Say what you will but I've forced more reactions out of people then most of you combined.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 18:05 GMT
#1037
On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight.

That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 18:17 GMT
#1043
On December 15 2011 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On December 15 2011 03:05 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight.

That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him.


You know, mafia have potential to be of great use to town. Should we never vig mafia?

Who is YOUR number-one vig target risk? Clearly you have an idea, or you wouldn't have insinuated yourself into the discussion...

I don't understand your first sentence.
Read my filter before you fos me.
If I were a vig I'd hit greymist.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 18:30 GMT
#1053
You're the guys with double moral. You want to elect a good player despite alignment to keep them alive, the next thing you want to shoot dropbear because he hasn't done anything yet. That's a load of... ... ... and as far as I am concerned by beeing quiet dropbear atleast haven't caused town a ton of harm like radfield. You didn't even comment on what you thought of me running to keep it out of scumhands. wtf was that. I mean you should atleast have said what you thought of it, good idea, bad idea, something but the fact that you just ignored it and told everyone to vote the professors makes me so damn uneasy on you and it's by far the scummiest thing I think you did last night.

And greymist as far as I am aware is just decent at mafia, plain average. And if I were a vig I'd vig the one I have get mountainhigh scumchills on without hesitation.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 18:40 GMT
#1063
On December 15 2011 03:36 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:30 risk.nuke wrote:
You're the guys with double moral. You want to elect a good player despite alignment to keep them alive, the next thing you want to shoot dropbear because he hasn't done anything yet. That's a load of... ... ... and as far as I am concerned by beeing quiet dropbear atleast haven't caused town a ton of harm like radfield. You didn't even comment on what you thought of me running to keep it out of scumhands. wtf was that. I mean you should atleast have said what you thought of it, good idea, bad idea, something but the fact that you just ignored it and told everyone to vote the professors makes me so damn uneasy on you and it's by far the scummiest thing I think you did last night.

And greymist as far as I am aware is just decent at mafia, plain average. And if I were a vig I'd vig the one I have get mountainhigh scumchills on without hesitation.


Have you even played with dropbear before?

Yes in xlv, but I'm not really sure how he played that game. I am of the understanding that he is a good player, am I wrong becauuse that's the only relevant thing, not if I've played with him before.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#1117
On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:
No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?

Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.


Okay, this post.

What is going on with this post?

He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why?

Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing).

My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder.

Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously?

You do realise that YOU are nisani...
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#1120
On December 15 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 07:58 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:
No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?

Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.


Okay, this post.

What is going on with this post?

He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why?

Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing).

My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder.

Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously?

You do realise that YOU are nisani...


He was saying that zentor and nisani were the top lynch candidates at that time, not that they should be now...

No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 23:07 GMT
#1123
On December 15 2011 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 15 2011 07:58 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:
No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?

Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.


Okay, this post.

What is going on with this post?

He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why?

Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing).

My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder.

Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously?

You do realise that YOU are nisani...


He was saying that zentor and nisani were the top lynch candidates at that time, not that they should be now...

No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them.


No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant.

I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy.

So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#1128
On December 15 2011 08:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 08:07 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 15 2011 07:58 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:
No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?

Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.


Okay, this post.

What is going on with this post?

He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why?

Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing).

My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder.

Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously?

You do realise that YOU are nisani...


He was saying that zentor and nisani were the top lynch candidates at that time, not that they should be now...

No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them.


No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant.

I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy.

So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic.


LOL

No. That's not my point...although I have to ask, what makes you so certain that Zentor and I are townies? Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. That's information that only we and scum have, so explain how you've come across it with such certainty that you try and use it as a defense of my argument?

I'm not sure on you beeing townies, but since you're the ones accusing me I think you should have have arguments that doesn't involve you beeing mafia.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#1130
On December 15 2011 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
/facepalm

No you're the bloody facepalm, the fucking shit I have to put up with from you and fucking zentor. I'm getting an idea to why palmar wanted you shot.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 23:49 GMT
#1134
Gigyas you said I contradicted myself by dissagreeing with something you said. You wrote what I said but what did you say I can't find it.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#1137
I'm angry and I got every right to be. Look at Zentor, read his last two pages of post, maybe I've missed one but there isn't one that isn't either defending him or attacking me. Very usefull guy. And Vicera, for everything I say he says I'm more scum and I still don't even know what his point is.
On December 15 2011 08:54 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 08:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Gigyas you said I contradicted myself by dissagreeing with something you said. You wrote what I said but what did you say I can't find it.


+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2011 05:00 GiygaS wrote:
I have already stated that I would want an exception to the no pardon rule (before anyone else actually, I stated that the pardoner rule should only be used in aforementioned exceptions). I'm just thinking of a hypothetical situations that we suddenly get a really strong scum-read on somebody, and the majority of people in the thread want to lynch this new guy, but there are a lot of inactives who can't switch their vote because they are afk. Basically, we want to regulate these kind of exceptions so that we don't have no direction when these sitautions arise. This is what I want:

When the Pardoner should Pardon:
In a period of time of 30 minutes to 3 hours before the lynch, a pardoner can commence an unofficial voting session . All those active int he thread at this time will HAVE to vote either Yes or No to pardon the person in quesiton.

This keeps the pardoner power in the hands of the town, and keeps things by and large under control. If anyone has any doubts ont his subject, bring them up, and we may want to change some of the restrictions on this. If there's a stituation that this rule did not think of, I would really feel bad

On the subject of rules for elected officials: I believe mayoral candidates should declare who their hidden vote is for. The benefits simply outweigh the negatives. Sure, the mafia gets a better idea of the voting situation, but it gives the mayor far more transparency, and gives us ability to monitor and regulate these powerful roles.

On the subject of campaigns, I'm going to be voting for Radfield/Arctocod.and more specifically Arctocod. I feel he's being more transparent than Radfield, and has been raising some good points with good logic. I feel like Radfield has kind of said canned start of game sort of stuff so far, so i don't have any reason to think he's mafia, but I'm not convinced he's totally town either. Again, I'm leaning more int eh way that he's town because he brought up another very good palyer so quickly, who I would believe would be a threat to him if he was a mafia.

On to the subject of who I want to vote:
I'll be be putting my tentative lynch vote on Zeks. This will turn in to a real vote if I come back in 3 hours and no new info has really been unveilied/no info that's an easy analysis for a lynch. The points against him have been pointed out by Deus-Ex, he wanted to vote a hydra off for really no reason, other than what I can see that he's threatened by them (a mafia would be threatened!) He also dissappeared for a while, and when he returned, he just quickly answered a quesiton, and didn't either reference or defend his accusations.



There ya go.

What I ment were reasons for the pardoner to SINGLEHANDEDLY decide if he wanted to pardon if something suspicious happens. But he should be aware that an (judged by the town) inadequate reason will get him lynched. You're saying that it should be decided by majority by those present. I know think a setup like that will likely favor the mafia.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 00:14 GMT
#1141
On December 15 2011 09:07 GiygaS wrote:
But what I was saying is you proposed this system in the first place, I was just adding some specifics, and then you immediately pulled a 180 with 0 explanation on the subject.

My suggestion would hold the pardoner acountable of his actions. You're suggesting is a minority majority vote and I think it can be abused by mafia.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 00:27 GMT
#1151
Ehm, didn't GiygaS say he sent Eiii that box?
Also was it Eiii's abillity that hit Arctocod, it seems to fit.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 00:54 GMT
#1180
Well they could still be mafia partners. It would be pretty clever to set it up like that to kill a townie and get away with it and it would also false-confirm giygas as town. Altough I'm always thinking about wifom stuff like this and I don't this this was the case, not even alittle. Since the election I've been trusting Arctocod out of desperation. Right now though I think they are both town and telling the truth.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 00:57 GMT
#1185
Palmar what do you think of me. Right now I got Zentor, The Professor and ViceraEyes pushing hard for my lynch. I'm sure I'll get hit tonight but no medic will protect me as it looks right now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:00 GMT
#1189
On December 15 2011 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On December 15 2011 09:46 Arctocod wrote:
Anonymous, but he made it quite clear in the thread that it was from him.

The fact GiygaS gave us the right to control the package said a shitton about his alignment. Syllo and I aren't always right, but we have a pretty good track record of hitting scum early in games, so sending us a PM with an explanation of his ability, and how we give him a signal to use it, is very, very pro-town. I really doubt scum would risk us hitting a red by basically giving us a vigilante shot on night 1.

Obviously you need to think we're town in order for GiygaS to be town, but I'm guessing most people already figured out that we're town by now.

So yeah, GiygaS is basically off the table as a lynch candidate.


Palmogism lies about the contents of the package. Why?

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On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote:


Hello Eiii

prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind.

you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal.


Clearly he read and understood the message, why say he didn't know who it was from? I understand wanting to CONFIRM who it was from, but he literally JUST said that the package was anonymous, yet 'Hi I'm GiygaS' was the first line in the message? WTF?

You're an idiot. Anyone could had written "Hi this is Giygas"
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:01 GMT
#1191
On December 15 2011 09:59 xsksc wrote:
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On December 15 2011 09:57 risk.nuke wrote:
Palmar what do you think of me. Right now I got Zentor, The Professor and ViceraEyes pushing hard for my lynch. I'm sure I'll get hit tonight but no medic will protect me as it looks right now.


Why would you get hit? You're not looking extremely town to me right now.

That is precisly why I'll get hit. People who look town get medicprotection, mafia generally wants to avoid going after that group to ensure as many as thier hits as possible are succesfull. Which makes me a floating duck.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:12 GMT
#1199
On December 15 2011 10:02 ProfessorBadass wrote:
lol this just looks like a stupid attempt to waste a Medic protection on you before you get hanged.

If you were Town and looking like you were going to get lynched why the hell would they ever shoot you?

Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you.
I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia.

ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:33 GMT
#1210
On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 10:23 ProfessorBadass wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:12 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:02 ProfessorBadass wrote:
lol this just looks like a stupid attempt to waste a Medic protection on you before you get hanged.

If you were Town and looking like you were going to get lynched why the hell would they ever shoot you?

Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you.
I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia.

ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you.


You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection.

Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy.


Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from?

Radfield could be mafia. Just saying. He played a terrible towngame last night, and if both arctocod and radfield were town why did mafia choose arctocod and not radfield who at the time looked more town then arcto.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:38 GMT
#1213
On December 15 2011 10:36 ProfessorBadass wrote:
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On December 15 2011 10:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:23 ProfessorBadass wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:12 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 10:02 ProfessorBadass wrote:
lol this just looks like a stupid attempt to waste a Medic protection on you before you get hanged.

If you were Town and looking like you were going to get lynched why the hell would they ever shoot you?

Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you.
I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia.

ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you.


You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection.

Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy.


Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from?

Radfield could be mafia. Just saying. He played a terrible towngame last night, and if both arctocod and radfield were town why did mafia choose arctocod and not radfield who at the time looked more town then arcto.


lol what? Radfield's play last night was disagreeing with Nisani and MrZentor lynches (something you agreed with him on as well).

He agreed on the Spaackles case which I felt was the best (duh, I posted it). So to play less bad he should've made random statements about GreyMist saying he had a gut feeling he was scum right?

Your posts get more and more ridiculous.

Radfields play last night, was not doing a shit or comment on anything significant untill the last minute where he decided the lynch.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#1217
On December 15 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote:
What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something?

We belive scum used a special abillity to force Arctocod to withdraw. As of now it is not clear wether the abillity was to create a fake post, Withdraw the candidate or just nullify all votes. The night is not over. Giygas had some mailman abillitys that he used to privately tell Arctocod that he could kill a person. Arctocod then told Giygas to send the letter-bomb (which if opened kills the reciever) to eiii.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 02:47 GMT
#1227
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
+ Show Spoiler +

[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
+ Show Spoiler +

not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 02:49 GMT
#1230
my bad, missed that.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 03:23 GMT
#1249
On December 15 2011 12:20 Radfield wrote:
Well, so much for my protection....

Ok, so Arctocod for Secretary of Defence. Then the medic ability can be WIFOMed between the two of us. Someone who is very likely town in Surgeon General, probably Gigyas.

I assume someone took a hit last night?

I'm good with this. going to bed now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#1353
Hardly a scumrole. There is a limit to how crual the hosts (palmar and caller excluded) can be in a closed setup. Now I'm getting mixed feelings Zentor is 99% confirmed town, on the other hand I don't want to trust him with a blue powerrole because I doubt he can put it to good use. In the end it will come down to how sure I am on Arctocod.

Zentor you're not in the danger you claim to be. You're just green right now. It's not like it's mega-likely you'll get hit, in alot of gamed mafia prefers to try and get blue roles or players who can be a threat to them. You don't fall in either category, Still you should be wifomed to the medics so mafia can't just freekill you.

I'm going to change my playstyle, I wont spam up the thread like wbg anymore I don't like to play that way to begin with. I'm feeling very bummed down at mafia right now so I'm not sure how hard I can care to scumhunt, it's alot of effort and right now atleast I'm not in the mood for it. If anyone wants to know why it's in the spoiler.+ Show Spoiler +
Newbie mafia. I'm vanilla townie. I establish I am one of the better players in the game. Stops a bandwagon on Skrammen (our only medic). That night I tries to ensure that the medic will know to protect me by writing a strong analystic post once again make it clear that I need protection. I get shot Night 1.

Steamship. I'm vanilla townie, The town is in chaos and nobody can get a read on anything because some townies are just trolling. I die night 2.

XLVII. I'm veteran. All the lurkerbanes get killed for inactivity and half the town belives the draw the mafia offered us out if pitty is because they thought we had cought all the mafia.

Sheth, I think you're loosing yourself in wifom, I did just that in my first forum game and I had the same background as you, playing a ton of irl mafia. I think it's likely they just sent a shot at Arctocod to see if they could get lucky.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#1410
On December 16 2011 08:44 nyczbrandon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:43 GiygaS wrote:
Risk's Steamship Filter.

In our game, people could describe Risk as:
- Chaotic
- Aggressive
- Accusations without evidence
- Angry/A bit rude (No offense)

In Steamship (Vanilla Townie):
- Very well thought-out posts
- Clear
- Basically all of his accusations have evidence.
- Polite, explains things for people clearly when needed.

Does anyone else see these differences?


He did say that he was going to try and change styles this time.

No sorry, I think I just had jetlagg from XLVII where I'm still suffering from beeing angry. Some of my accusations have been to spark argumentation. Not greymist though, Greymist is instinct altough I'm sorry I didn't realise you had to call it meta in order for it to be acceptable. Some of you have been freaking out so hard over me not providing solid evidence but compare it to who anyone says they want dead most of them will tell you "I don't like the way he plays, I think his play is suspicious or meta from earlier game" (altough this is starting to change now as we start to leave day 1, I glimpsed at ViceraEyes writing something that looked nice but I also think ViceraEyes is very fickle due to him playing in two game). I've been singled out because I've been more agressive then others.

Me changing my style is not referring to this game which from what I read you seem to belive. I ment I'm gonna stop how I've been playing in this game up untill now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 00:30 GMT
#1425
On December 16 2011 09:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 09:03 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 16 2011 08:44 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 08:43 GiygaS wrote:
Risk's Steamship Filter.

In our game, people could describe Risk as:
- Chaotic
- Aggressive
- Accusations without evidence
- Angry/A bit rude (No offense)

In Steamship (Vanilla Townie):
- Very well thought-out posts
- Clear
- Basically all of his accusations have evidence.
- Polite, explains things for people clearly when needed.

Does anyone else see these differences?


He did say that he was going to try and change styles this time.

No sorry, I think I just had jetlagg from XLVII where I'm still suffering from beeing angry. Some of my accusations have been to spark argumentation. Not greymist though, Greymist is instinct altough I'm sorry I didn't realise you had to call it meta in order for it to be acceptable. Some of you have been freaking out so hard over me not providing solid evidence but compare it to who anyone says they want dead most of them will tell you "I don't like the way he plays, I think his play is suspicious or meta from earlier game" (altough this is starting to change now as we start to leave day 1, I glimpsed at ViceraEyes writing something that looked nice but I also think ViceraEyes is very fickle due to him playing in two game). I've been singled out because I've been more agressive then others.

Me changing my style is not referring to this game which from what I read you seem to belive. I ment I'm gonna stop how I've been playing in this game up untill now.


"fickle due to him playing in two games"....what does this mean?

And could you comment on the inconsistencies that GiygaS pointed out between how you played in Steamship Liquidia where you were town-aligned and your play this game? Your cooperation would be appreciated.

What I mean by fickle I mean inconsistant. I think you have the potential to analyze and think and post. I also know you think you can be lazy which I think you were went you went after me, some of the things you have said like, "I was going to do that, let me know what you find out sounds lazy."

I played very differently in Steamship. If you want a reason I would guess moodswings.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 00:56 GMT
#1437
Fuck excuses I'm trying to tell the truth
What do you want from me, I played spammy and agressive in my last game and I was town then but nobody mentions that.

I know I'm town so if you're getting the conclusion that I am mafia you're clearly getting it wrong. ViceraEyes I'm just telling you what your case on me sounded like from my perspective, and in my opinion it wasn't very deep. I think you thought I looked scummy and wrote a bunch of 2 minute posts on me in combination with tunneling. If you were serious and put in alot of effort in reading me well then the more fault to you.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 01:11 GMT
#1442
I read through both Zeks and TnTp, on one readthrough I have a leaning on both but I'm still undecided. Some of their posts I need to track down and watch in context. I'll do that tomorrow. It's 2 a.m. I'm going to go to sleep.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 18:25 GMT
#1540
I was going to do the analysises requested of me last night now but more interesting stuff is going on so they will have to wait.

The more interesting stuff:
I've had a bad feeling about the professor ever since Arctocod got withdrawn and he was elected. If we keep assuming it was a scum abillity they probably have a limited number of uses, I guess 1 max 2. They wouldn't had wasted this abillity which means they have an agenda. The professor was the one who got elected instead, there wasn't any question about that he would be elected. The only logical reasoning is the mafia knew this. Which leaves us here. Either the mafia elected the professor because the professor is scum. Or they elected the professor to make us come to the conclusion that he is scum. These are the only two logical reasoning. Personally I think the first one is the likeliest but that isn't the only reason. If the professor is scum he can hurt town. He knows he is heavily suspiscious and if we don't lynch him today we will likely lynch him soon unless he starts busing. If we choose to lynch someone else and by luck hits a mafia. The professor can pardon him giving them an extra night.

I approve with lynching The Professor today.
Still want greymist dead.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#1555
Pulling a palmar should get you on the banlist imo. We can't have a system where you threaten to ragequit to gain towncred. If you do that Curu I will strongly push for a ban.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#1653
Kita, ProfBad locking himself in the house, did he use it on himself or don't we know that. I'm asking because the post makes it sound like he did and if we're not supposed to know who did it it's purposly misleading
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 22:13 GMT
#1655
On December 17 2011 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
He stated that he was going to use his power on himself risk. Please read the thread.

still that's not what I was asking, I'm wondering about the way the post was formated for future reference.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 22:28 GMT
#1661
On December 17 2011 07:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 07:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Kita, ProfBad locking himself in the house, did he use it on himself or don't we know that. I'm asking because the post makes it sound like he did and if we're not supposed to know who did it it's purposly misleading


No comment

you can't "no comment", Hypotheticly if ProfBad used that abillity. would the post had looked just the same with a different name if he had used it on someone else or did you write that post biased by the circumstances.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 22:32 GMT
#1663
On December 17 2011 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Risk quit gaming the system. The point of the post was to inform us that ProfBad is no longer posting, and it was due to an action. That's all we get to know, and you should stop wasting time and space arguing with the mod.

stop wasting time and space arguing with questions not directed at you.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 17 2011 22:20 GMT
#1766
On December 18 2011 06:55 MrZentor wrote:
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On December 18 2011 06:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
but you aren't confirmed :-[


Using a role that helps the town for all to see isn't confirmed?

You're town. Lets not argue about this more, it's a pro town abillity. The host cant be so crual as to give that to mafia, it would be unfairly crual. You've done things like you not use your abillity when arctocod was withdrawn and town was in panic. Since I don't think even the slightest that you are scum your behavior isn't scummy but just newbie play. And even though you're town you're also confirmed green throw in that a medic just might choose to protect you because you are confirmed town. This combined equals you're not an as attractive target as you belive.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 18 2011 01:02 GMT
#1780
I wish you hadn't done that, Still. Hats of to you, rest in peace.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 18 2011 01:05 GMT
#1781
Doublepost, nvm we got the godfather lol you lucky idiot. You awesome lucky idiot.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 19 2011 13:19 GMT
#1913
I didn't think they would go for arctocod today. Giygas you told the one you choose to protect arctocod and other one to protect radfield right. So mafia knew that arctocod would most likely only have 1 kp protection and if nobody speaks up and says they took a hit we should assume they doublestacked arctocod. If they didn't doublestack which I find very unlikely then radfield is probably mafia.

For policechief we should just elect a very strong townread. It's an easy role, check someone during night, tell town next morning. The most attractive about the role is the night immunity. I'm thinking Deus or Zentor for Poliechief. I would like to be elected Prankster.
This is placeholder untill the filters get back, alternativly sheth you could make a list of everyones filter. If anyone have a double lynch abillity, activate it. If we get a double lynch I think we should kill greymist and sheth. This is also placeholder untill I've read filters, altough I'm not very sure it will change both of these I'm pretty sure on.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 19 2011 13:48 GMT
#1916
Sorry, I was originally writing "the one giygas choose" then I read that he had named you so I just replaced it with your name name.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 19 2011 19:51 GMT
#1965
I just voted and I am in the middle of writing a post but It will be delayed about 1-2 hours.
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risk.nuke
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December 19 2011 22:26 GMT
#1996
Greymist

Beeing in favor of electing the professor+ Show Spoiler +
On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.

Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.

@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT?


I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay.

On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.

Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.

@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT?


I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay.

He tries to make a case on Jitsu but for some reason he doesn't ask professor whom he belives is town and should be a good scumhunter for thoughts, he only asks random townies. (That is weird) No, really. Townies ask who they belive are their strongest townreads for thoughts, scum asks random townies to gain towncred with the illusion that they are discussing.

He votes for MrZentor who I am sure is town because of his abillity.
On December 14 2011 11:46 GreYMisT wrote:
Sheth, compare this from newbie mini mafia: (also day 1/2 if i recall)

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm 100% sure Toad is scum.

So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what.

You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play.

The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you.

Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true.


Townie priority list.

1. Establish your innocence.
2. Support the right townies.
3. Vote properly.
4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies.
5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread.

There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things.

Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch.

In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second.

I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this.

Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth.


to this.

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On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.


can you explain this please?

I think you are scum.



see why we are a bit concerned?


He tries to discredit me with some weak metagame analysis.

he is comfortable with lynching nisani (ViceraEyes)

On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null.

In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do.


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On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
+ Show Spoiler +

not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.


He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible.

In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known.

I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.

Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.


When he says he is changing his mind about me he first calls me null-read and then he says he thinks I am town.
This entire post is an attempt to appease me. Greymist says this, to try and win me over. Since Townie A who gets called a townie gets less suspicious of Person B who said he says he thinks Townie A is town. The part involving me is just some weird singled out points to disguise the real purpose of the post. The point of this post was to discreetly call me town so I would stop tunneling him. You might say that he would do that even if he was town because nobody wants to be tunneled but no, this only makes sense if he KNOWS I am town. Because if I were scum when this post got put put under the magnifying glass those weak points could get him lynched ergo you don't do this unless you KNOW.

He is reluctant to lynch the professor
Here we're at it again, he keeps beliving the professor is town but his posts doesn't show any real strenght behind his belifes, they are just there when it's voting time.

Conclusion: Mafia
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 19 2011 22:36 GMT
#2001
On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote:
yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster.


I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action)

I'd prefer zeks tbh.

I've played with dropbear, I did have the assumption that he was good at mafia, actually I still think he is. It was just some other people beeing pissy and butthurt and said he wasn't. I thought he had a blue powerrole and that's why he was sitting quiet.

Now please, start looking at professor badass filter. If what you read there doesn't convince you I am town I don't know what will.
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December 19 2011 23:15 GMT
#2010
"Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?" - greymist

"How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you."
- greymist

"I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?" - greymist
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Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#2034
Who stopped MrZentor and Nisani bandwagons. Who saw through the scum plans and called out Curu when palmar withdrew. I've read this game better then anyone else, I should be Prankster. Period.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 15:52 GMT
#2115
I second what radfield just said, Evan and Grey should full claim.

If Greymist is medic then I don't want to lynch sheth today. I got a pretty decent townread on alot of players.
Radfield
Giygas
MrZentor
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
GreYMisT

Some other people are saying they got townreads on
zeks
TotallyNotTwoPeople
I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree.

Right now I don't want to lynch
Evantrees (waiting for roleclaim)
Sheth

Which leaves
Jitsu
cascades
cwave
comprissant
Refallen

I think we should focus on these today.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 15:56 GMT
#2117
Yes nyczbrandon too
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Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#2125
Cwave take your idiotic arse elshwhere and stop questioning or insulting me at every turn. I was going to check them, I never blindly trusts.

And knock of with the whole I voted for curu first. I don't care if you put a mini subpost somewhere on how curu might be scum. Mafia does that to eachothr all the time, also infact everyone at some point writes something small about everyone. You're all mistaking if you think that a little useless post against curu that accomplished nothing and means nothing will gain you more towncred depending on the time of it's posting.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 21:27 GMT
#2179
Deus, could you summerise everything that makes you town.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 21:36 GMT
#2195
On December 21 2011 06:31 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 06:27 risk.nuke wrote:
Deus, could you summerise everything that makes you town.


can we talk about this if we don't lynch scum today and the following 2 days?
I really think we shouldn't get paranoid right now.
Look at my list and tell me if this list is reasonable. If not, go ahead and discuss that with me.
Don't just ask me: tell my why are you town.
Quote a post of mine and I will tell you my thoughtprocess behind that post.

No because if we're going to elect you policechief I want to know how your bloody mind works when you write shit like this.
On December 21 2011 06:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
12. risk.nuke town-feeling no real evidence

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Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#2198
I agree we will likely find a red behind Casc
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December 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#2375
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 12 2011 05:47 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the lynch

Current votes:

Comprissent (7): Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, zeks, -zeks, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen

cascades (5): DEUS-ex-MAFIA, risk.nuke, Comprissent, GreYMisT, GiygaS

nyczbrandon (3): GreYMisT, Liquid`Sheth, Cwave, MrZentor, zeks, cascades, -MrZentor, -zeks, -GreYMisT

GreYMisT (0): TotallyNotTwoPeople, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, zeks, risk.nuke, Refallen, MrZentor, Radfield, -TotallyNotTwoPeople, -Refallen, -zeks, -risk.nuke, -Radfield, -MrZentor, -DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Liquid`Sheth (0): GiygaS, -GiygaS

Voting ends at December 21 2011 12:00. (It's over.)


What do you people read in from the day three vote? And why was this never under discussion?

I'm not following Zeks at all, Zeks what exacly was/is your role?

I would like to be Postmaster General, I will be using it on supersoft.

As Greymist said everyone have to write how they vote in the thread for obvious reasons.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2394
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.
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December 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#2398
On December 22 2011 23:33 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.


Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist

Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game

Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing?

I'm asking about your role because I am not sure about you. Blues doesn't win the game. So answer my question.

I'm choosing Deus over IO because blues doesn't win the game for us and because nobody knows what IO is and most often it's just as good the IO decideds what to do for himself to assure scum won't know. I want to discuss privatly with Dues without scum ears and I think that will be very beneficial. Alot more then having radfield controlling the IO or choosing two people who doesn't realise how damn good this role is and won't be able to use it to full extent.
Also me and Dues are green so we would be spreading out the people mafia will want to hit.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 15:15 GMT
#2402
On December 23 2011 00:02 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 23:54 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 22 2011 23:33 zeks wrote:
On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.


Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist

Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game

Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing?

I'm asking about your role because I am not sure about you. Blues doesn't win the game. So answer my question.

I'm choosing Deus over IO because blues doesn't win the game for us and because nobody knows what IO is and most often it's just as good the IO decideds what to do for himself to assure scum won't know. I want to discuss privatly with Dues without scum ears and I think that will be very beneficial. Alot more then having radfield controlling the IO or choosing two people who doesn't realise how damn good this role is and won't be able to use it to full extent.
Also me and Dues are green so we would be spreading out the people mafia will want to hit.


You are still not sure about me when I shot Sheth? Seriously. If I were scum that would be the stupidest fucking move in the world. I would've just decreased kp from 2 to 1. In fact the scum are in such a terrible situation they might as well concede this game right now.

Blue's don't win the game? Buddy - the blues are WINNING this game for town right now. Both Sheth and bumatlarge have not been obvious scum targets and if you were given vig you would've shot our medic dead. We are in a good position because of good choices made by myself and VE.

I already answered your question that I am clearly WIFOMing my role. The fact that your fishing for my role and inserting doubt into Radfield who is 99% townie proven by his posting and the circumstances is making you more and more scummy

How the &¤%# is radfield 99% townie. Explain that to me, he hasn't done anything special to deserve a towntitle. Now look you idiot. From the start Radfield became grouped in to the people who were the elite force of this game and has he been living up to that? No! Compare to what palmar achieved the time he lived and you'd fucking see that Radfield is floating on only because of this idea that he is our best townplayer which magicly makes his posts great while doing a bare minimun required of him and occasionally throwing in a good post WELL GUESS WHAT, If he was scum and didn't do that he would get INSTANTLY LYNCHED so tell me you sheeping moron how he is 99% town... You people, I don't get how you think.

And if you insist on not sharing your role then you shouldn't be elected because if (A) you're mafia you shouldn't be elected and (B) if you're town you shouldn't be elected to spread out mafia targets.

Also it's not my damn fault greymist played scummy and got unlucky with the circumstances of how he defended The Professor. You probably are deluding yourself that Greymist played well but he played a lousy game because he had to role-claim medic to not get lyched.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 15:41 GMT
#2410
He's made a few posts telling townies a little more how to play and so on which is one of the most effective means for scum to blend in and act pro town because while it seems as giving invaluable advice in the end it doesn't affect the game much. This doesn't give us any slightest read on him. He wrote a that post on if the Professor lives which is one of the early things I liked about him, but it's not actually that conclusive evidence because by saying it was open for wifom. How in the end he agreed to lynch curu doesn't mean anything because curu was long done for and it was Palmar and I who made that happen.

You don't assume anything in mafia. He got roleblocked three times in a row, that gives him quite alot of towncred. But he has been playing badly on other occasions such as electing the professor despite saying he thinks he is scum and at the same time ignoring what I were saying which very pretty good stuff which turned out to be precicly what was happening. And if you're wondering why I'm pissed and wasn't paying attention mucn recently is because you're all hard-ignoring all I say anyway. Pretty impossible to keep the interest up with that treatment.

Radfield pros. Claims 3x roleblock
Radfield cons. Elected Professor, doing extreme minimum.

Conclusion: don't lynch him, don't trust him.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 15:44 GMT
#2411
On December 23 2011 00:38 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
massroleclaim?
only 1 kp left...

I'm for mass roleclaim. We got a good setup to do it, 1 kp. alot of confirmed townies alive.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2432
VT - Welcome to Election Mafia! You are a member of the general electorate! You may not have any special powers, but if you and your senior citizen friends band together, you can become a serious force at the voting booths. You win with town.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 09:28 GMT
#2456
Actually deus. Casc isn't completely biking, your filter looks pretty scummy. I don't like how you almost never quote. If we get to lylo and I don't have better scumreads I would probably lynch you.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 14:50 GMT
#2462
so zeks, you want to stack multiple powers (3) on you when mafia have 1 kp and we don't have any medic.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2471
@Zeks: ok.

@Radfield
*Greymist voters
*Spaackle lynchers
First 2 doesn't really make sense rad.

When you say "*Greymist voters" do you mean as in didn't switch his vote after Greymist claimed. Greymist was townie driven and was looking like he was going down no matter what so mafia could just has likely not had voted for him. Imo it's not really a tell.

*Spaackle lynchers. You pretty much decided when you came storming in last minute that everyone should vote spaackle, even I was puzzled how to proceed so I can imagine less experienced people where more so. This also isn't much of a tell and once again I think mafia didn't need to hammer.

Also what do you think of dues?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 16:22 GMT
#2474
Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#2477
On December 24 2011 01:26 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 01:22 risk.nuke wrote:
Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case.


What has he done good? What are his contributions this game?

It doesn't make him scum, Reading his filter I can understand more of his thoughts behind what he does then most other people and it's not setting of alarms, I think cascades is a good lynch or possibly Jitsu who I'm looking at right now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 16:38 GMT
#2479
Today I would like to lynch either 1. Jitsu or 2. Cascades in that order.

Also I'm starting to doubt we have a dt. Can the few people who haven't claimed yet do.
I'll write a post on Jitsu now.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 16:39 GMT
#2480
EBWOP: After Dinner.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 23 2011 22:59 GMT
#2520
Dues you have absolutely no reason or right to be upset. How you have the nerve to blame us for pointing out things in your posts is straight up incredible.

Sorry for my Jitsu post never coming up, surprise christmas stuff got in the way. I don't know if I'll be back again tonight.

E-Vote: Radfield
L-Vote: Cascades
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 24 2011 01:29 GMT
#2528
I had a feeling they would pull something like this. We need three people to secure who to vote. Everyone present please make yourself accounted for.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#2538
I'll keep my vote on rad (I didn't change it yet)
I'm for lynching casc, not sure on the rest
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 24 2011 02:30 GMT
#2541
Do you think the scum aren't here or are pretending not to be here?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 03:10 GMT
#2594
Okey, who shot Jitsu? I'm assuming he got viggd.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 03:44 GMT
#2597
I thought it was zeks, just confirming. TnTp I already thought was town so that is all well.

Assuming we lynch 1, mafia kills 1, we have 2 lynche attempts to find a scum, if we get1 we get 1 more lynch.
It's late and I might change my mind but this is my list in particular order.
8 People
risk.nuke Town
GreYMisT Town
TotallyNotTwoPeople Town

Radfield Probably Town
DEUS-ex-MAFIA Probably Town
jaj22 Unknown
Refallen Unknown
cascades Unknown


Do I got this right?
Military Advisor gets two plans. May pick one and send it to Commander-in-Chief.
If Commander-in-Chief recives a plan from Military Advisor. He reads it and he can Yes or No it.

I'm not sure about jay as a candidate but he is probably safer then cascades or refallen.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 13:42 GMT
#2606
About Dues: Ever since I said we should probably lynch him at a lylo he's gone berserk trying to claim more towncred for everything. Despite him not actually doing what he says with any effort which almost makes him a liar. As a + he tries to spread doubt that I am the person we should question. He says we're putting in no effort into this game so I will have to assume he does, which makes it pretty damn weird that he can ignore all the things that makes me town and keep refusing to acknowledge which makes it seem like he has an agenda. I don't want to think he is mafia but if he isn't I am very puzzled by his play.
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 14:47 GMT
#2608
wat?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 15:02 GMT
#2610
I really can't tell if you're beeing a complete moron townie or complete moron scum but the absolute worst thing that can happen is if you're a townie and we omgus eachother.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 22:00 GMT
#2614
What do you think about refallens vet claim. Also what do you think about his comment saying "sure shoot me" but adding an argument for why it wouldn't prove anything.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 22:14 GMT
#2616
Jitsu actually had a bunch of scummy things on him. I never posted a post but I wrote most of one.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 23:16 GMT
#2621
Yes I would love to hear your cases because what you just wrote is not obvious. It's actually absurd.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 23:35 GMT
#2624
Refallen deserves a look but right now I think you're bussing Casc.
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risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
December 25 2011 23:44 GMT
#2626
Yes.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 26 2011 00:51 GMT
#2631
If I lynch you it's because you say you wanted cascades dead all along and so did I but in your head it apparantly makes you town but not me.
Because you're captain hindsight after every mislynch acting like this before a lynch
+ Show Spoiler +
ehmmm ehhh don't lynch that person ehmm
and after the lynch
+ Show Spoiler +
OMG IDIOTS, I TOLD YOU, DON'T LYNCH HIM, LISTEN TO ME GOD!!

You claim other people doesn't put in any effort when you yourself clearly aren't putting up any pro-town effort yourself.
Because a few hours ago you seemed to think I was scum and then suddenly out of the blue it's obvious that Casc, Jaj, and TnTp are 2/3 remaining scum without any explaination. And that feels as if you're trying to set up the game to a point where you ride cascade to safety while everyone else is at eachothers throats and you could just kill/lynch them of.

Because you've been playing terribly and uselessly and ignored several requests to get it together.

If you don't want to be lynched you can start by writing your Jaj and TnTp posts.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 26 2011 22:10 GMT
#2649
Actually I'm beliving strongly that you're bussing Casc. Especially after your post on me which was mostly just things picked out of context to make me look bad and some bullshit stuff like the post where I said I agreed to lynch curu, well even if that was after it had been decided (which I strongly doubt it was, I recall it beeing right after palmar asked.) that doesn't mean I wasn't for it before. I was the lead person to question Curu starting with his election. I think your post just further proves my theory that you're actually just trying to mass suspicion against other players to get them at eachothers throat while you sit safe because cascades flipped red. Then you kill of the other most likely townies while town keeps lynching eachother in chaos.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 26 2011 22:38 GMT
#2653
About sheth, He was on my scumlist day 1. I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea to mention this now. I should had either said something earlier or shut up about it completely which I was doing. Anyway for the sake of truth I'm mentioning that he was on my list and yes, it blablabla won't look good for me, you won't belive me, claim I'm trying to get bullshit towncred, well I know it's bullshit so don't give me towncred just read so you know it all.
I didn't push him for three reasons.
He is niceguy sheth, I ment what I said. He comes here to play mafia with us and we lynch him day 1.
I thought I might be giving him more attention then the rest since he was sheth and in mafia if you look you often find (Tunl)
Also he reminded me of myself in my first mafia forum game as townie. And I did some scummy stuff, it's tough the first time.
Overtime my read on him went from beeing scummy to beeing probably-townie to beeing scummy to beeing unknown/leaning scum at the time he got shot.

Anyway do you really think a scum would make reason like that up to protect his fellow scum, especially since I had already asked for medicprotection for dropbear which would be stupid enough of a scum to do. Scum doesn't want to defend eachother unless they can do it with valid reasons that won't make either look suspicious should 1 of them flip.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 26 2011 23:14 GMT
#2658
You acting upset and shouting angrily for no other reason but beeing suspected as scum makes me belive you're scum alot more.

I'm not accusing you of beeing right, I'm accusing you of bussing and under these very suspicious circumstances a bus seems more then likely and you're telling me I'm not allowed to suspect that. With your all over the place playstyle? You change suspects all the time during the same day with no new information acting like this.
+ Show Spoiler +
You're idiots, these 2 are obviously scum, I don't need a reason they are obviously scum.

Wait nvm. These are the suspicious people, what? you can't see why, are you dumb it's so obvious?

Hmm, no now that I think about it these are the scum.
You've been saying casc is scum for more then 1 day but you didn't manage to get him lynched and you didn't try very hard. Then you get unreasonably supermad when a townie gets lynched.

Add to that last page Casc suddenly re-emerged and instead of defending himself he accuses you of beeing scum and swiftly disapears again. Eh, wat? It sounds to me that he were told to say that. This is if he is red. If he is green I guess it was probably just one last omgus post but I don't think that very likely all.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 27 2011 13:27 GMT
#2674
Okey, saving lynch and scum discussions for after casc flips. Who do we elect with me today and who gets which position and why?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 27 2011 23:12 GMT
#2692
It depends entirely on what the two plans are if we will discuss them openly or not. It will have to be decided by the MA.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#2701
Okey that settles the ballot question. Radfield do you think my bus theory is imagination or anything to consider? Either way I don't want to lynch deus today I just want to hear your thoughts on it and on the facts that you think supports it or stands against it.

@Kita it was Military Advisor.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#2703
nvm you fixed it. You had typed commander.

I agree TnTp is safe. I'm not sold on refallens veteran claim. Both the fact that I'm not sure a veteran would fit in into this setup, then again I'm not the most experienced with forum games, I also for example wouldn't really think a gf would fit into this setup with no dt. I'm going to go to sleep soon but tomorrow I'll put refallen under the magnifying glass.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:00 GMT
#2716
I was gone the entire day for a friends birthday, I actually got quite worried I wouldn't be able to get home on time. My second abillity is I can give two people body armor and make them (I can use it on myself and I probably will) veterans for the rest of the game. I'm going to use it on one of my strongest townreads. Sorry no double lynch, I'm not scum don't lynch me.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:05 GMT
#2717
Why I didn't use double lynch is because I don't like the way there were almost no discussion about the third party reveal which I thought was really good because we can't deduct the possibility of a SK despite what you say and even if it didn't reveal a sk it could reveal 1-2 townfriendly role that would let us eliminate them from the scum circle and by that increase our chance to hit scum. I think making confirmed townies unkillable is the better option.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#2719
SK might just have a limited amount of kills or becomes sk first when all mafia are dead. Things like that.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:16 GMT
#2721
No I prefered it and there is nothing bad about it. I couldn't pick it because jaj sent me the double lynch option.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 03:11 GMT
#2725
It was a bluff.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 03:20 GMT
#2728
Doesn't matter now. Anyway my real second abillity was this
#2: All alignments and roles will not be revealed on night five flips.

and no I did not enact that today as I could only choose one, someone else did or it was part of the double-lynch deal.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 03:29 GMT
#2729
Wrong of me, the no roles will be revealed was included in the double lynch but I missed that due to me having mulitple PM's from hosts one directly quoting jaj just saying "double lynch" where I also got one with the information that it would not reveal the roles, my bad sorry.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 03:48 GMT
#2733
Sorry for beeing confusing.
I had three choices,
1# Activate double lynch, the alignment of neither player will be revealed.
2# No alignments will be revealed on night 5 flips. + Show Spoiler +
Once again my sleep deprivation strikes again, I couldn't read properly to save my life. So if I had enacted campaign 2 the alignment of the person mafia killed this night (radfield) would had been unknown.
3# do nothing.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 04:04 GMT
#2740
Mafia might not have bought the bluff, decided radfield was worth the hazzle of 2 nights or hoped to get lucky. Or maybe they didn't see it altough I doubt the last one.

6 people left, with that we got 3 lynches so we can lynch half of the players.
6-2= 2xLynch
4-1= Mafia strikes.
3-1= Another lynch.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 04:23 GMT
#2754
Greymist is my strongest Townread
I'm not sure on TnTp but I'd place him higher the the others on the townie scale. Also radfield belived there must be atleast 1 goon so I'll put the trust in rad and give TnTp the benefit of the doubt.
so well it's Jaj refallen or dues. And we got three lynched so we can nail everyone of these three.

Grey if you don't think it will cause any harm by keeping it hidden then don't say. Unless it also won't cause any harm by sharing it, you do as you please.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 04:30 GMT
#2758
On December 29 2011 13:27 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 13:23 risk.nuke wrote:
Greymist is my strongest Townread
I'm not sure on TnTp but I'd place him higher the the others on the townie scale. Also radfield belived there must be atleast 1 goon so I'll put the trust in rad and give TnTp the benefit of the doubt.
so well it's Jaj refallen or dues. And we got three lynched so we can nail everyone of these three.

Grey if you don't think it will cause any harm by keeping it hidden then don't say. Unless it also won't cause any harm by sharing it, you do as you please.

@risk
Scum has used the election withdrawal ability, without a scum with that ability flipping yet. It isn't a matter of scum having a goon, it is them all having power roles and my power role not matching up with any of them.

Oh, my bad. I guess I've misinterpreted that. I'm just going to go to sleep soon.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 14:10 GMT
#2766
Sorry it got rough on you jaj, I think you played well. A little sad that you choose to concede but I sympathise with your situation.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 15:01 GMT
#2773
Anyone want to link the obs QT.
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