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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 01:05:35
December 03 2011 01:05 GMT
#41
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 03 2011 01:08 GMT
#42
On December 03 2011 10:04 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 10:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:40 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.


If the last Newbie Mafia is any indication, a little town favoring could balance things out. That game ended in flawless victory to the scum team.


damn right it did :D


Well, to be fair, Ciry being in bed with town kinda carried us ^_^


I guess the biggest problem was the fact that people thought I'm scum all game long. Let's face it, on cirys sheet I had written "either a blue or a red" after day1, sure nothing I knew for certain but still. Obviously I did not want to write that because telling mafia who our blue is is not a useful talent to have in this game. And since everyone wanted to lynch me I just hoped he's our blue because pushing for ciry would have get me lynched for sure in that situation. So imo it was a def lose because of that :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
December 03 2011 01:11 GMT
#43
On December 03 2011 10:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 10:04 xsksc wrote:
On December 03 2011 10:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:40 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.


If the last Newbie Mafia is any indication, a little town favoring could balance things out. That game ended in flawless victory to the scum team.


damn right it did :D


Well, to be fair, Ciry being in bed with town kinda carried us ^_^


I guess the biggest problem was the fact that people thought I'm scum all game long. Let's face it, on cirys sheet I had written "either a blue or a red" after day1, sure nothing I knew for certain but still. Obviously I did not want to write that because telling mafia who our blue is is not a useful talent to have in this game. And since everyone wanted to lynch me I just hoped he's our blue because pushing for ciry would have get me lynched for sure in that situation. So imo it was a def lose because of that :p


Town was too trusting in the "confirmed" townies. If HoD was scum and Ciry town it would probably have been the same result for us. Noone was gonna lynch them
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
December 03 2011 01:13 GMT
#44
As a general rule, townies need to step up and take leadership roles, rather than leaning on any confirmed people. Force the mafia to talk and they will slip up, right?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 03 2011 01:15 GMT
#45
On December 03 2011 10:11 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 10:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 03 2011 10:04 xsksc wrote:
On December 03 2011 10:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:40 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.


If the last Newbie Mafia is any indication, a little town favoring could balance things out. That game ended in flawless victory to the scum team.


damn right it did :D


Well, to be fair, Ciry being in bed with town kinda carried us ^_^


I guess the biggest problem was the fact that people thought I'm scum all game long. Let's face it, on cirys sheet I had written "either a blue or a red" after day1, sure nothing I knew for certain but still. Obviously I did not want to write that because telling mafia who our blue is is not a useful talent to have in this game. And since everyone wanted to lynch me I just hoped he's our blue because pushing for ciry would have get me lynched for sure in that situation. So imo it was a def lose because of that :p


Town was too trusting in the "confirmed" townies. If HoD was scum and Ciry town it would probably have been the same result for us. Noone was gonna lynch them

yeah but I would not have trusted hod in that situation. The problem with ciry was that I was in no position to lynch someone like him with everyone thinking I'm scum. I idea was something like "ok ciry's either a blue or a red, if he's a red we already lost because there's no way they will follow me and if he's a blue we got a chance of winning". So I ignored the chance of him being red because in my opinion that scenario was already a lost case. I trusted him because I had to
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2011 01:15 GMT
#46
Incog this setup might be a tiny bit town favored with cop and watcher.

However the inclusion of a GF possibility would eliminate that.

Standard C9++ with removal of the SK possibilities would make this game (and all 13 play minis) cool.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 03 2011 01:15 GMT
#47
On December 03 2011 10:11 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 10:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 03 2011 10:04 xsksc wrote:
On December 03 2011 10:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:40 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.


If the last Newbie Mafia is any indication, a little town favoring could balance things out. That game ended in flawless victory to the scum team.


damn right it did :D


Well, to be fair, Ciry being in bed with town kinda carried us ^_^


I guess the biggest problem was the fact that people thought I'm scum all game long. Let's face it, on cirys sheet I had written "either a blue or a red" after day1, sure nothing I knew for certain but still. Obviously I did not want to write that because telling mafia who our blue is is not a useful talent to have in this game. And since everyone wanted to lynch me I just hoped he's our blue because pushing for ciry would have get me lynched for sure in that situation. So imo it was a def lose because of that :p


Town was too trusting in the "confirmed" townies. If HoD was scum and Ciry town it would probably have been the same result for us. Noone was gonna lynch them


the biggest lesson i have learned so far? No one is confirmed until they die
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2011 01:17 GMT
#48
Yeah man don't trust people who say they or someone else is confirmed.

Don't make unqualified assumptions in general. Sayin something like "one of those two has to be scum" often sets yourself up for failure when they both turn out to be town.

Happens all the time to the best of players, though.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 01:43:21
December 03 2011 01:22 GMT
#49
Just a quesstion: Since we got 13 singups and already something like 4 people more to join after such a short time would there be a possibility of another 13 player game for noobs or semi-noobs to be created?
We got a 80 player game for noobs which is about to end soon so yeah there's a bunch of players who would like to play their next game I bet.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 03 2011 01:43 GMT
#50
Damnit, I was checking all day for this and I had to go somewhere and NOW it comes up


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xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
December 03 2011 02:02 GMT
#51
Any idea when this game is gonna start btw?
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 03 2011 02:04 GMT
#52
##Signup
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Starshard
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4 Posts
December 03 2011 02:28 GMT
#53
didn't make it in time for sign ups,I'll fill in someone's role if he goes inactive then.
##Signup for replacements
Line em up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 03 2011 02:28 GMT
#54
/sitout
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:24:17
December 03 2011 03:17 GMT
#55
I've messaged Foolishness about starting another game also for newcomers. If nobody else steps up, I'm ready to host another.

Forumite and I are getting ready to start the game tomorrow.

On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.

No, what are you talking about? 8/3 is not "usual", nor is it fair under normal circumstances. Yes, it is intended to allow the town up to 3 mislynches to lynch 3 mafia. No, it is not intended for there to be a tracker, as trackers stink in this sort of setup if not all mafia visit when killing, and are better than cops if they do. Anyways, in almost all cases, watchers pick targets the same way doctors do.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 03 2011 03:25 GMT
#56
On December 03 2011 12:17 Zona wrote:
I've messaged Foolishness about starting another game also for newcomers. If nobody else steps up, I'm ready to host another.

Forumite and I are getting ready to start the game tomorrow.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
This setup is town favored. A usual setup would be 7 townies/2 mafia or 8 townies/3 mafia. In a 1 KP game, the ratio of townies to mafia does not matter as much as the number of allowable mislynches before the town loses. In the above two setups, town loses with 3 mislynches, in the current 10/3 setup, town gets 4. In addition, town has 2 guaranteed blue roles and 2 of the 3 setups has a medic. I would also replace the watcher with a tracker, as watchers take less skill to use than trackers.

No, what are you talking about? 8/3 is not "usual", nor is it fair under normal circumstances. Yes, it is intended to allow the town up to 3 mislynches to lynch 3 mafia. No, it is not intended for there to be a tracker, as trackers stink in this sort of setup if not all mafia visit when killing, and are better than cops if they do. Anyways, in almost all cases, watchers pick targets the same way doctors do.


Zona I would be willing to cohost your second game if you do not already have one
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 03 2011 03:33 GMT
#57
i can host it with grey if ya want
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 03 2011 03:35 GMT
#58
#signup
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 03 2011 04:10 GMT
#59
##signup (if people will be nice)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 03 2011 04:15 GMT
#60
any idea when we gonna start
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