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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On November 28 2011 20:58 sandroba wrote: @Cyriandor How does that clue on kita point to a less traveled road? @Mattchew So based on your logic we should be using clues that actually have a very remote chance to pointing to the person in question right? I don't think we should disregard seemingly obvious clues but we should use caution when using them because I doubt the game owners (or admins or w.e they are called) would put all this effort into the write-ups just to put out obvious clues that are direct links to certain people. As I said I don't disagree with the logic used I just am extremely skeptical of obvious clues like that. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 28 2011 20:52 Palmar wrote: I think everyone in town can agree that dedicating one of the lynches today to not lynching based on clues, but analysis, is going to force people who would otherwise skirt by with doing clue analysis, to actually contribute to the thread. ... so, where's the analysis on Ace? Let's say you're town and we lynch you. Why should we lynch Ace afterwards and not one of the others who have argued that you are mafia? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:58 GMarshal wrote: Clues appear in the day post, the point to the identity of the people who committed kills that night (scum or vigilantes), they are usually rather vague references to things in a players profile, or if the player lacks a profile to the players name. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On November 28 2011 20:55 Palmar wrote: ##Vote Ace I do not understand why you would go for a stand off vs Ace? He has been pretty pro-town and textwalls just as much as you do to stirr discussion. For me it's unclear why you would do this in an absolute way. I would it's more safe to vote for someone like Hier who matches a mafia in denial from my experience level in this kind of game. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On November 28 2011 21:05 sandroba wrote: I find it amuzing that you previously felt no need to comment on this game and that is your only post of substance. I think you are refering to me. This is the first time I have felt comfortable in saying anything. Before the clues it has all been politics and post analysis. I don't know how to decifer these things. I am much more comfortable talking about the clues. I think Ciryandor's linking to xttfc and kitaman's death holds more weight because it is a direct correlation but not as "in-your-face" as the syllo death palmar quoted. Either way xttfc has a couple fingers pointing at him. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 28 2011 21:02 sandroba wrote: Can quotes be used as possible clues as well, since they are on the profile? Yes | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
we are voting zeks (the strongest possible clue today) and we are voting xtfftc or, if someone comes up with something better that is REINFORCED BY THE CLUES, then someone else. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On November 28 2011 21:12 Cwave wrote: I do not understand why you would go for a stand off vs Ace? He has been pretty pro-town and textwalls just as much as you do to stirr discussion. For me it's unclear why you would do this in an absolute way. I would it's more safe to vote for someone like Hier who matches a mafia in denial from my experience level in this kind of game. When hier posts something inexplicable it doesn't tell us much about his alignment. It tells us he's wrong, it tells us he's stubborn, and it tells us he's determined to use bad methods to play the game. What it doesn't tell us is if he's scum or not. Obviously we have to make the call at some point, and I would not directly oppose lynching Hier. I just feel much better about lynching Ace. When Ace posts bullshit, it tells us something about his alignment. I have played with him before where I was scum. It took him half a day to deduce my alignment as scum, thankfully the town was bad that time, and I managed to argue my way out of it. Actually the town was so bad that Ace just stopped playing. So, now I am town, which can be proven with my death, and the way Ace has attacked me without anything to back it up expect him not agreeing with the YM lynch, makes him automatically scum because he hasn't stopped, re-read and understood that everything I've said and done is pushing town objectives. I may have gotten cocky, and I may have been wrong. That doesn't say anything about my alignment. On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote: Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. YM doesn't fit either of these criteria. The Mayor abused his power to get rid of someone who he didn't like. Which even if he was Town-aligned shows our Mayor isn't fit enough for office to think clearly and take dissenting opinions without making a bold move. First off, we clearly don't agree to what constitutes to useless, and we don't agree on the criteria to be used for a lynch. You seem to be saying you want to lynch someone like Coagulation or Kenpachi, or one of the newbies playing like those two. While obviously less likely to cause fuss in town, I don't think it's the way to go. I think you should lynch your number one scum-read. Are you saying that you'd be ok with killing me off if I'm town based on the fact I got a read wrong? It's an interesting point of view, why even include it? I have an important position in town, I have a breaking position in town. If you're going to attack me, you better be damn sure, and I know you cannot be. For everyone else in town: Read this conversation in chronological order for perspective: Ace: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12489903 Palmar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12490059 Ace: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12490228 Palmar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12490592 Ace: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12491093 On November 28 2011 13:31 Ace wrote: The case on you has already been built up. I'm really wondering why is it that you spoke for Palmar about the YM lynch but Palmar didn't even come to the same conclusion. I purposely made sure to clarify my questioning so I wouldn't be confused and you repeatedly stated that ym lied. Then I did the same and waited to see if Palmar would agree with you. Why didn't Palmar state the same thing when I he initially responded to me? Not once in his post did he ever state he lynched ym for lying. So how is it that you can say that is the reason to justify the lynch when the man who actually pulled the rope didn't even say so? Maybe one of you isn't Mafia. But I highly doubt BOTH of you can be Town. 2 Town players who are supposedly good who are supposedly reading the thread came to 2 clashing conclusions on the same lynch with one guy trying to speak for the other. ![[image loading]](http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzqs1nPpb1qzlauh.gif) What does us having different reasons and the same conclusion have to do with our alignments? I'm interested, you're trying to make it sound like because we agreed on the lynch, and didn't agree on the importance of various reasons given, that we must be scum? Does that by extension mean that if we did agree, that we were town? I'm not sure how this can be used in any way to deduce anything about our alignments. You can, as you have done, use the fact we were wrong about YM to argue against us individually, but you cannot deduce anything from the alignment of one of us about the other. I'm not completely sure WBG is town, but while he's contributing and making good decisions, I am fine with keeping him around. If you asked me now, I'd say I'm leaning quite heavily towards him being town. Which would indeed mean that we're both town. You're creating arguments out of nothing Ace. This makes you scum. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
On November 28 2011 21:05 sandroba wrote: I find it amuzing that you previously felt no need to comment on this game and that is your only post of substance. could you care to direct your comments to people? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On November 28 2011 21:34 supersoft wrote: dont panic palmar. This is not panic. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
zeks and xtf are the primary targets. that guy with the hello kitty knife picture might replace xtf if you wish (i forgot who had it). but these are the only targets. thats it. do not deviate from this. the debate that goes on later today will be great for lynching ON FUTURE DAYS. remember that, and do NOT let palmar -- or ace -- sway you from this. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Zeks, I'm perfectly fine with killing. But I want to have the chance to construct an alignment analysis on xtf before I agree with a lynch on him. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Radfield only wanted answers as he looked up at the man circling around him. He wasn't sure what had happened, one moment he was sleeping, the next he was suddenly awake with a hand pressing a cloth into his face, and now he was tied to a chair in his living room. He must have been drugged. "Who are you? Why are you doing this?" The other man stopped walking. He was carrying a butcher knife from Radfield's own kitchen. "You know, I'd really love to tell you, but it's a lot more fun for me when you don't know." Smiling wickedly, he lifted the knife, and let the point rest on Radfield's chest. Radfield only stared up at his killer, for that is what he assumed he was there for, and did not give him the satisfaction of a reaction. The other man turned his lips into a pout and then grinned again as he slowly pushed the knife into Radfield's heart. Radfield the Vanilla Townie has been murdered in his home! I'm thinking the "the attacker is unknown" meet "RogerX" | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On November 28 2011 15:24 jaybrundage wrote: BTW i hate this post it has such little content to it. It seems your main skill is making text red as can be seen in most of your posts. Forum Mafia and RL mafia are very different. I played a couple games of RL mafia but when it came to forum mafia its extremely different. And besides that you have no info. You mentioned him before and claimed he was lurky if i remember correctly. But plz try to post some analyze with out just spamming red text next time Defending your mafia teammate, are you? | ||
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