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On November 02 2011 23:05 GMarshal wrote: We will be team asdji2342!8ladfgsdafuipgkhasfhas324ioasdjsfa*uias!dsd464fuidsfuios*d--dsasdhkfasoifh3465jeru!p2osdfashjkghdjkasd2432ghasdiourgra*siaop44sd!fsdha949-?*, pronounced "john" (I joke, I joke, we still need to come up with a name) oh what? i wanted that teamname!!! - just wanted to wait for greys agree on that :-[ | ||
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S&G Consulting GbR looks quite prefessional. | ||
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definition: two or more people who want to achieve one or more goals and agree on doing that together form a GbR. translation would be company constituded under civil law in fact, grey and i are a gbr :D | ||
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if you're town, save all your conversations with your teampartner. if you're getting lynched, these conversations may provide something that speaks in favor of you. I know scum will do that, too now... BUT it's a lot of work to fake logs. and why should we be gentle with these guys?! | ||
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On November 03 2011 12:00 chaoser wrote: I really hope you're kidding about this. I'm 100% serious about my point. Are we really going to try to exploit every single mechanic in place in a game to try to avoid the actual point of a mafia game which is to analyze and use scum hunting skills? Not to mention this doesn't even work. Look at Kita escaping lynch for a hilarious amount of days because of his "PM convo" with Radfield. It took me two days of setup to finally convince people that he was mafia and should be voted for. yes okay i agree. my "plan" is a bit lame. it's a process that uses the game mechanics in an unfair way. but i guess, posting the logs to avoid a lynch will happen anyway, unless it's forbidden. no further discussion needed. (do the extra work, scummers!) okay next point is GM accusing team Viking. Prplhz is from denmark and hes no anglistic expert. i dont mind some minor mistakes and i do them, too. i know you say he's doing that interpunctuation mistakes on purpose, and you say that a townie has no reason to be hard to understand. i think however, that scum has no reason to be hard to understand, too. therefor... @wbg: who is the scummiest team in your eyes right now? | ||
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On November 03 2011 19:11 prplhz wrote: About the new rule: this is pretty cool but chaoser still has to answer for why he didn't want additional content put into the thread back when it was allowed. More content equals more material for analysis, it's not like more content equals autoconfirm. to be fair i dont think chaoser is lazy scum who doesnt want to fake logs. i think he wants to play mafia by analyzing and discussing instead of abusing the mechanics of an online mafiagame. he made that pretty clear. | ||
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On November 03 2011 23:04 GMarshal wrote: Which means no one ever kills him. What was the last game you remember where he was lynched, despite spouting nonesense? Same theory behind muddling your speech pasterns, it makes people less likely to pay attention to you, that way you trade pull for survivability . If you can't understand why that is beneficial to mafia then I can't help you. As I said, town strives for clarity and transparency. Scum do the opposite. yes okay. you're right in general. i was more focussed on this individial case with prplhz and i didnt get the feeling that he did that on purpose. that doesnt mean i think he's protown in general. i am going to filter our viking team now and after that i'll reread chaosers partner hyshes. i wann compare his play in this game to his play in snmm. lets what we can get. | ||
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team kitaredff your vote is still on gm right? you still keep that vote on him? | ||
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as townie in xlv he confused me, as scum in pypi he annoyed me - now i know him so i wouldnt be confused but pleased if he'd annoy the scummers. | ||
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@wbg yoep i just wanted to make sure you post something. i never judge good players based on their previous games. this works for sinani who always lurks/afk but not for the majority of the players in this game. and here we are dear @prplhz: your analysis of me is ridiculous poorly thrown together. first of all, ofc i do agree with some people. thats completely normal. scum does that and town does it, too. i am not trying to make friends. i did that in a PM game and i talked off topic things with these people. i also tried to mirror my townplay as best as i could so this meta argument is completely useless. your assumption that i didnt read the thread is absolutely baseless. Bad logic, bad arguments to discredit me wont help you. you contributed nothing except a whole lot of empty text. @nolynch discussion: USELESS right now. If we're going to lynch a dude that suddently appears to be extremely green we may come back to that. | ||
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On November 04 2011 07:15 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to hear from Katzeleute and Crofty in particular about who they find suspicious at the moment. oh yeah especially katzeleute. i am not convinced at all that chaoser is scum. i know it's wifom but i kind of liked his reaction to my plan to abuse the game mechanics. my impression is, that it was an honest reaction. idk if the scumchaoser would have attacked this plan like this... we'll see... | ||
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he's a traditional lurker. Completely useless if town. every game the same "playstyle". | ||
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On November 04 2011 07:48 iGrok wrote: Reason 1 Reason 2 + Show Spoiler + Lol. For Sandroba, particularly posts # 4, 6, and 12. hmmm all we get out of this no lynch discussion is wifom thats the problem. however sandro is very passive in general. he doesnt attack anyone except chaoser who's already under wbgs fire... meh | ||
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On November 04 2011 08:01 hyshes wrote: I don't see how referring to another game says something? huh? @iGrok: well you're right about sandro. Grey wants to vote him. i kind of agree with that. this behaviour of not attacking anyone and talking about general strategies is indeed pretty scummy. on the other hand you suddenly appeared and magically found a good lynchtarget. i want to see sandros response! | ||
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Same thing with GM... | ||
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i dont autoagree with someone who posts huge texts and awesomepictures. | ||
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i need a few minutes to filter kita and red and look up the old games. | ||
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On November 01 2011 17:50 Palmar wrote: Setup This is an open mini setup with a twist. There will be 18 players but only 9 roles in the game, each role will be played by two players, and they will for all intents an purposes be considered a single entity throughout the game, they will vote together (the last vote always counts) and they will be voted for together, and if they have any actions they will do them together. As for the roles, the setup will be randomly chosen among the following.
okay wait. this claim doesnt confirm them... they're only confirmed if there is no other blue in here. however another blue is not enough to determine if they're lying. this claim is basically worthless right? | ||
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they would have planned this very likely right from the beginning as a last hope plan. there would be a 33% chance that there is a real pc. seems to be an okay plan. the only piece that doesnt fit in the puzzle really is the timing. its too early for scum to claim. obviously they could have drawn this out until one hour before the lynch. therefor i tend to believe them. | ||
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On November 05 2011 02:24 wherebugsgo wrote: I've mostly ignored all your posts up till this point (short of reading them and laughing at them, mostly) However, claiming doesn't automatically make you town. The fact that you even imply this screams agenda to me. There's a 50% chance of there being no PC. Even if there is a PC and you aren't the real one, the real PC wouldn't counterclaim because that would out him to mafia! Your claim does nothing to establish you as town and anyone who naively decides you are more town because of it is probably not thinking very clearly. Just as context, kita claimed tracker in LoTR to save himself and wasn't able to provide sufficient information about his checks. He claimed he had tracked chaoser but wasn't able to provide who else he had tracked. If you have no potential checks at this point in time, and seeing as it only benefits town by publicizing them, you're probably scum who is gambling by fakeclaiming. hold your breath. the timing of the claim is very reasonable for town and not so much for scum. it's a dead end right now. we have to focus on other teams snd come back to them later. | ||
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FOS: still nothing new: sandorba, advocating the horrible Kuru nolynchplan proves him to be town is WIFOM Sevrym out. 2. Forumite & prplhz - TEAM VIKING lot of stuff, no content. Still my opinion 3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU town: confirmed through wbgs meta//not believing the claim 4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE minorFOS: both busy, both didnt read the thread. Kuru started the nolynchthing. dont know what to think of that. Wifom 5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID minorFOS: didnt mention teamSS, jumped on teamred27 and forced a claim. looks bad if SS flips red. 7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD likely town: looks okay, as stated before, chaosers behavior doesnt ring any alarmbells 8. iGrok & Katzeleute Bumatlarge - TEAM SWITZERLAND minorFOS: nothing new. delivered teamSS 9. redFF & kitaman27 - TEAM RED21 likely town, due claim: I trust this claim as stated before ah i just wanted to send that to grey, but i guess it's okay if you all read that. | ||
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his reaction to my posting-the-PMs-plan. he instantly said that this sucks/isnt fun whatever. i dont know if the fictional "scumchaoser" would have reacted like this... especially since his mate was super afk at this point of time etc. | ||
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i dont see chaosers scummyness. sandro has been completely quiet the whole second half of d1. he's a better lynch than chaoser. | ||
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i have to leave now so i am unable to switch!!! i am at a kart drvingplace whatever it's called and my race starts now!!! | ||
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Team SS leaded the lynch backed up with an okayish case on sandro. suddenly GM appeared with a huge analysis of our PC. he doesnt mention the SS case at all!!! after kitared convincingly claimed, GM switched on viking. correct me if i'm missing something! | ||
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but remember that kuru brought us this idea. so they could easily argue against each other about general strategies and noone of them is responsible for the initiation of that. the discussion brought us nowhere and its not their fault. one thing i wanna have a look on, is their behaviour towards chaoser. i didnt implement that in my theory yet. | ||
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it's 3:25 a.m. and i got to get up early to learn for some exams | ||
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On November 06 2011 08:25 supersoft wrote: its bum and iGrok right? k lol. should learn to read. i am not at home :o | ||
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On November 01 2011 17:50 Palmar wrote: Team list: 1. TEAM SS - (sandroba & 2. TEAM VIKING - (Forumite & prplhz) - Lynched day 1 - Vanilla Town 3. TEAM CHEZINU - (Radfield & wherebugsgo) - Alive 4. TEAM NIPPLE - (Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD) - Alive 5. TEAM LIQUID - (Crofty & Gmarshal) - Alive 6. TEAM S&G CONSULTING - (supersoft & GreYMisT) - Alive 7. TEAM EDWARD - (chaoser & hyshes) - Alive 8. TEAM SWITZERLAND - (iGrok & 9. TEAM RED21 - (redFF & kitaman27) - Alive okay, since we discuss the nightkill, i also want to share my thought on that. the discussion about the nightkill is always to an extend a WIFOM discussion. However it's not completely useless. On November 07 2011 00:14 kitaman27 wrote: The scum objective for the night one hit was to snipe the medic/jailer so their hit on me and red will go through tonight before we pull off our check. igrok was maintaining a low profile and bum was making some extremely pro-town posts during the night. I cannot agree more with that statement. The kill on team Switzerland makes perfect sense. They could have been blue, iGrok made a reasonable case against SS and they looked pretty townish over all. Much more townish than Rad/WBG and GM. GM accused two teams, one is very likely blue and still alive, the other team was green and got lynched day1. Rad isn't talking a whole lot and WBG is accusing chaoser hardcore who i expect to be town. Killing iGrok instead of these two is reasonable. Therefor the kill wasn't unexpected at all. Because of that, there is no need for us to completely turn around, get really paranoid and accuse people because they are "still" alive (after night1!!!) | ||
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1. TEAM SS - (sandroba & I read the current discussion and sandroba doesn't look too bad in the dialogue with wbg. Mainly because wbg mixes in some things that really aren't reasons to vote anyone. Seriously bugs, this team switzerland thing. It was a typo. I won't vote any team for confusing the teamnames. However team SS is #2 at my scumlist. They look really bad if you see the whole picture. I mean it's 5v2 now. I know I am town, red21 is blue, wbg is very likely town and i have a strong townfeeling towards chaoser. By the process of elimination and the day1 passive behavior of sandro, i think team SS is scum. 2. TEAM CHEZINU - (Radfield & wherebugsgo) as I said before. It's not useful to accuse people simply because they are "still" alive at day2. probably green 3. TEAM NIPPLE - (Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD) oh well. Kurumis filter looks quite bad. I reread the post where he proposed the nolynchplan and was curious what he did in addition to that. Besides like 3 apologyposts for inactivity, he says he's "rereading" the thread and "taking notes" and he came to the conclusion that team Viking is the best lynch. lol. #1 scum. 4. TEAM LIQUID - (Crofty & Gmarshal) Crofty is unseen ever since. GM is busy now. He pushed 2 cases so far, both on townies. Grey thinks i am too focussed on him but if Sandro is scum and Kuru isn't i am going to push his lynch for sure. I mean if team SS is scum, GM peeled the public attention away from them perfectly by posting his red21 case. 5. TEAM S&G CONSULTING - (supersoft & GreYMisT) ... 6. TEAM EDWARD - (chaoser & hyshes) difficult. I don't think they are scum. I hope chaoser comes back in here fast and continues to share his thoughts. I'd like to see some more out of him. 7. TEAM RED21 - (redFF & kitaman27) these guys are blue. I have no doubt about that. I wait for Greys opinion on that and if he agrees i am going to vote Kurumi/RoL | ||
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you together with sandro accuse random people in here and you dont give a shit about scumhunting. i am willing to hammer you down to end this. i am like 80% convinced that you're scum. if grey thinks the same we hammer this one down. | ||
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On November 08 2011 05:21 deconduo wrote: We're the only fucking team that have done any scumhunting. What have you done? Nothing. Just herped and derped and listened to the loudest voice aka WBG. This sums up the entire town at the moment. Feel free to hammer to prove my point. go back and see who accused team nipples first. the team your vote is on right now. only because i dont spam the hell out of this thread, doesnt mean i dont scumhunt or i am afk. i think your post proves that you didnt even read the case on kurumi. you vote him to save your ass not to kill scum and you attack me to undermine my influence because you know i am town and therefor your enemy. i give you 30 minutes to shape up and stp randomly accusing others. if your town, take a breath, read the thread and contribute. | ||
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On November 08 2011 05:36 deconduo wrote: Me and Sandroba are different people if you haven't figured that out yet... Of course you being so blind haven't realised that scumteams will just agree with each other and be perfectly coordinated. Only townies will actually act like seperate entities because thats what we actually are. decon really. i know you're two different people. idc who of you two shapes up. but i know one thing: you definetely won't survive the day if you don't deliver. | ||
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oh lord. we actually were the only team able to present a reasonable alternativelynch with nipplez. stop running against walls. think before posting. a huge shitload of "OMGUS WTF SCUM" - posts dont favor a protown atmosphere. | ||
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now rereading the thread. i'll publish a more detailed portraitlist of every team before the night ends. @grey: lets talk in irc tomorrow. i'll be home from 9:00-11:00 and 20:00-lynch | ||
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On November 08 2011 12:41 kitaman27 wrote: Yep. After looking through their filter, I noticed this: What does that even mean o.O obviously a scumslip, genius. | ||
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i am still convinced that kurumi is the savest bet for today. | ||
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i even doubt your claim right now. | ||
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this may be our last day. there is a high chance that scum goes all in to achieve the mislynch. we have to be careful with our vote. | ||
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read kurumis filter. and red21, go ahead and check us, so we can bury this useless discussion. | ||
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On November 09 2011 00:37 kitaman27 wrote: Hey supersoft, remember that plan that convinced everyone that you were town? Scum can do that too: (PYPI) i dont think that this plan convinced everyone... anyway. you check us and we'll talk tomorrow. i think GM and kurumi are scum. deal with it. i am not. and wbg is town, too. even if he survives the night. | ||
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I told you all game long that chaoser isn't scum. I wanted to lynch team nipples instead of teamSS. And you still accuse me? Noone has been more protown than me. If you'd listened to me, we would have had lynches one scumteam already. Nipples and GM are scum. kitared derpteam is probably blue, wbg is probably vt with rad is afk. I suspected GM all game long btw. Now this wifom thing with killing the doc and bla etc. doesnt confince me of his innocence. | ||
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your arrogant play is getting on my nerves. basically what you are saying is: you checked wbg and me and one is + the other - you are blue, therefor GM and kurumi are opposit aligned, too. i know that i am town, so wbg is 100% scum. i trust GMs claim right now. wbg said earlier, that kurumi is an easylynch. my former suspicion on gm was mainly based on his case on red21 when ss was under suspicion. ss was green so gm looks better. read my filter, i wrote that earlier. one point that might convince you that wbg is scum is the fact, that he accepted me as townie pretty early. based on my usual townmeta. he contradicts himself there because he responded to my first larger post where i wrote something about his meta, he said meta is useless. i am open to discuss my points and search for the quotes when i get home. | ||
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has no arguments. is scum. kitared and the other townie dont screw this up. | ||
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On November 09 2011 21:20 Radfield wrote: I sincerely hope you are shitting me. ##Unvote i guess now you understand why i am still "slinging mud"... | ||
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i may trust their claim, but i dont trust their judgement, thats for sure. basically if this thing is fake i still believe gm and kuru look the scummiest. | ||
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i am town, i think kurumi is scum. if not, the game will end in a few hours, because i give scum the oportunity to hammer him down. ##vote: team nipples i trust gms medic nightplan and wbg is scum because i am not. GG | ||
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there is no chance they hammer him. if kuru doesnt get hammered hes scum | ||
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you jerks dont read the thread. i am the only one who plays this properly. and youre unsure about my townieness?!? screw this | ||
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seriously nothing will happen. hes scum | ||
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i know that i am not. and you should know, too. look at the evidence | ||
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therefor i do that. GM and wbg aren't scum together. i did my homework. | ||
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you accused me at the beginning of the day with no reason. i know i cant rely on your judgement. and my plan is good. | ||
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scum has to hammer. | ||
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explain that to me!!! YOU DONT TALK TO ME!!!! i wanna know your 100% plan or ill do that myself. | ||
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from my pov i see a 90% plan with kuru | ||
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On November 10 2011 05:29 kitaman27 wrote: You do realize that there has to be a lynch between you and bugs before the game is over....right? and how is that 100% ? from my pov it's 50/50 | ||
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##vote: team nipples | ||
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On November 10 2011 05:49 Kurumi wrote: what's point of all of this, besides messing up everything you seem to be very relaxed with my vote on you. | ||
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On November 10 2011 05:57 kitaman27 wrote: supersoft. Here is where we were at. We were deadset on lynching bugs and radfield at the beginning of the day. We would feel more comfortable about the GM/kurumi lynch if we had more information. You going around by yourself and voting isn't helping things. Don't change our mind. Unvote, stop threatining town, and lets be reasonable. we have to decide between kurumi and gm either way. i reread everything and i am pretty convinced. | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:06 redFF wrote: the lynch is between chezinu and s&g. so now i ask 2 questions Chezinu, why is s&g scum? S&G, why is chezinu scum? I ALREADY POINTED THAT OUT FILTER ME I HAVE ONLY FEW POSTS!!! wbg accepted me as town way too early to gain my trust wbg wanted to turbolynch GM today for no reason wbg said kurumi is an easylynch wbg floods the thread and accused chaoser the medic I accused Kurumi with good reasons day2 I have a good plan for today I presented alternative lynches I have a VT-Pm from palmar in my inbox goddamnit. ##vote team nipples fuck | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:20 wherebugsgo wrote: once again, scum can't hammer a 1 voted townie when YOU are one half of the scumteam. All it proves is that scum cannot be GM+me. You're an idiot. pfff wbg seriously. i got you. look at your play, it was good. but hands down - it's over you calling me "supertown" fucking hilarious. | ||
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##vote team chezinu obviously its over | ||
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wbg is not my alignment in what world wouldn i vote him??? | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:52 redFF wrote: also supersoft i know you're gonna waltz into the thread and tell us how amazing you are that you found the scum but honestly that was the worst town play i've ever seen and i've seen some pretty bad stuff. can you be a little bit more specific? I think my plan was okay, I don't see how we could have avoided a decision between GM and Kurumi. Since WBG wanted to turbolynch GM and wbg was definetely town, this was no big deal. | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:07 wherebugsgo wrote: also planning shit is impossible when all 3 of your scumbuddies are gone. true. You didn't play bad at all. Really. I don't know if the setup was bad, but rad and RoL being afk is pretty bad. if chaoser were scum instead of kuru, or someone else who is active, you may have had the chance to do something | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:12 Kurumi wrote: Well, I think this will be again last game in a while because I am tired of being called useless. no sorry, don't misunderstand me, I meant you as a team. RoL posted like 3 times and it wasnt game related... | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:16 wherebugsgo wrote: I couldn't bus Kurumi when he and RoL both came in at extremely odd times to soft defend us. I even repeatedly sent Kurumi PMs telling him what I wanted him to do and every single time I'd look in the thread and there'd be this random single post that would make me and Radfield look like shit. And I disagree with you completely on the day 3 business. I really don't think I got lynched on day 3 for any fault of my own. That lynch literally could've swung either way, and all the facts were on my side. I know for a fact I would've hated to be in GM's or super's shoes as town. We were in a good spot. Town just flipped a coin and it landed correctly. Also follow the cop IS an issue with the parity. All they need to do is check people who don't die and they have more than enough information on day 3. We couldn't do anything about a day 1 claim. That isn't our fault at all. oh well that's not true. we established ourselves much better as town than you did. And I still think, that my plan to vote Kuru and bind you two together was good. | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:31 GreYMisT wrote: Thanks for hosting palmar, Team melee is...interesting. btw.: GG Grey! Was a lot of fun to play with you :D | ||
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