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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
On October 13 2011 14:00 GreYMisT wrote: After we all recieve our roles, should those who became vanilla townies reveal themselves and their picks? we would know for sure some roles would be in the game, but we once again would get the problem that everyone would know the general area that that role exists. I personally feel that it is worth the risk. We get to know for certain what roles are in the game, and can plan accordingly. As a general rule, don't reveal information unless it can benefit the town. If you are pick 3, and you don't get inventor, don't go telling everyone that you didn't get inventor. If you are pick 3, and you don't get CPR doctor, tell us. The main problem (obivously) is that if you reveal that you didn't get a town role, you are just helping the mafia by telling them that (special cases pending), and if you reveal that you didn't get a mafia role, you help the town, but what the crap where you doing trying to get a mafia role? Because of this the only role that i can think of that would be an obviously good idea to tell us you didn't get is Traitor, but that role has been taken from the game. Everything else is either going to help the mafia, or get yourself lynched. (Again, there are probably specific circumstances that you could cook up in which it would be a good idea to claim a town role fail, but other wise, I don't think it should be public knowledge) | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On October 13 2011 14:00 GreYMisT wrote: After we all recieve our roles, should those who became vanilla townies reveal themselves and their picks? we would know for sure some roles would be in the game, but we once again would get the problem that everyone would know the general area that that role exists. I personally feel that it is worth the risk. We get to know for certain what roles are in the game, and can plan accordingly. I say it depends on the role. If some townie decided he wants to "deny" mafia a role, then he can claim that he did so, and didn't get the role. (Thief, Role Swapper, CPR docs, GFs, Framer, etc.) Then we can have a DT check the claimer, and we know that there may be one of that role in the list above the person. As for other roles, I don't really see the benefit. Why reveal if say, a DT was chosen above you. It doesn't really do anything to help town, and lets everyone with a KP know the general area of an investigative role. So, I guess you could say it depends on your queue position as well, as the lower you are, the weaker your information becomes. For example, claiming inventor taken when you're 2nd in queue is different than claiming DT taken when you're 19th. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
8th pick, not too shabby. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
And I am damn near the middle. Is anyone keeping a record of whats happening in Quake.net? Just for the people who chose not to use it, or miss something? 1. Meapak_Ziphh 2. Kenpachi 3. JimboSilvers 4. deconduo and these are the players that will take the roles we say, correct? | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On October 13 2011 11:47 Radfield wrote: So, me and Sandro have been discussing extensively the potential plans. At this point I am inclined to side with both him and Jimbo, and NOT allocate picks. We've been throwing around the idea of allocating the top pick the NRA member, but I'm not sure how valuable that is. Basically my entire list boils down to keeping tabs on the inventor. Which as Jimbo pointed out, is perhaps not worthy of allocating a whole bunch of picks. Frankly, Inventor will likely fall in the top few picks anyways, especially if any town-aligned player in the top 3 tries for it. Scum will not be able to let it slip far, as they risk losing it outright and having a lower player get vanilla. So, this brings us to the town role priority list, which me and Sandro were working on. Basically the idea is to focus purely on Investigative/Defensive/Protective roles in the top 20 slots. Slots 20-28 will then take either KP roles or miscellaneous roles. Still hammering out some details, but the list will follow. It is not set in stone by any means, and it a guideline for townies to pick from. The lower in the draft order you are, the lower on the role list you pick, etc. The only real goal of the list is to minimize overlap among townies, and to give a list of effective pro-town roles. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On October 13 2011 01:48 sandroba wrote: NOT denying is the superior denying strategy this game. Mafia is not guaranteed to get what they want unless they get first pick AND the first picks already have a lot of focus on them. Letting mafia fight over the best roles for them will ensure we end up with several vanilla mafia. If we deny mafia the best roles they might pick roles town would want and they would be denying town instead. DO NOT DENY. Smart man right here. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On October 13 2011 16:08 Scamp wrote: 20/20 8th pick, not too shabby. Well you know what they say, hindsight is + Show Spoiler + 20/20 + Show Spoiler + YYEEEEEEEEAAAAAA- | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I know if I got the top pick and took CV or Inventor, or whatever role people thinks is dangerous and you tried to tell me what to do I'd tell you to go kick rocks. I don't know your alignment, and I'm no puppet. If you want the role pry it from my dead hands. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
So do you think Sandroba's plan has enough support to go with? I'm down with sticking to it. | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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