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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
October 12 2011 23:51 GMT
#361
If a mafia wants thief/swapper they will have to use a top pick to get it or risk getting colision and ending up with vanilla. That means they trade an awesome role that they can choose for an opportunity to get an unknown awesome role amongst the top picks. It's really not really worth it and if they leave it to mid-pack they risk losing it. The same goes with all good mafia roles. W/e let them fight for it while we ensure town has the most protective and information roles and we simply outlast them. This is like the 5th time I repeat this and all the arguments for the assignments of roles are meh. I don't aprove of rad's denial plan and will not follow it if I get a top pick. I'll get a role that makes me a pain in the ass for mafia to deal with and that's what every town should focus on.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
October 12 2011 23:52 GMT
#362
Also follow my plan because it's better and I want to finally see one of my plans get aproved =P
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 12 2011 23:52 GMT
#363
Kitaman is scum he outed my identity in the IRC
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
October 13 2011 00:02 GMT
#364
As I have many duties to attend to, if anyone cares what I think they can reach me via the PM button.

Also that public irc is a big waste of time and accomplishes nothing.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 13 2011 00:03 GMT
#365
wherebugsgo is scum for trying to hide his identity in IRC.

Last game I suggested we RNG the draft order and numbers, but everyone clearly was incapable of seeing the value in my awesome ideas.

Introducing flawless draft plan 2.0!

Everybody submits [1][1] and we let the hosts RNG the draft order! This completely removes the mafia advantage of avoiding clashes. Sure, we would have to use the honor system to make sure nobody cheats, but this seems like a pretty trustworthy bunch!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 13 2011 00:03 GMT
#366
On October 13 2011 09:02 Foolishness wrote:
As I have many duties to attend to, if anyone cares what I think they can reach me via the PM button.

Also that public irc is a big waste of time and accomplishes nothing.


Foolishness knows better than to submit himself to a real time chat with town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#367
On October 12 2011 12:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
When do cycles begin, with the day, or including the night before?

There is a day cycle and a night cycle. A "full cycle" means one entire day + night cycle, or night + day cycle. Order does not matter.


On October 12 2011 17:21 Mig wrote:
If Ace shoots a non liar does his gun just not fire or does he die?

On October 12 2011 19:14 prplhz wrote:
Will Ace be able to shoot random people who claim town aligned and then only kill if they turn out to be 3rd party/scum, thus acting as a DT who kills his targets if they're scum?


Ace -
You are Ace, a vigilante with two bullets. However, you can only shoot liars. In order for your kill to work, you must prove that your target lied. Be very sure when you present your case, or your power will misfire.


The point of the role is in the underlined sentence. If you try to abuse or get around it, there will be consequences.

On October 12 2011 19:42 Radfield wrote:
For the purposes of the BC role, what constitutes a roleclaim? If I say "I tried to get DayVig but didn't get it", does that equate to a vanilla role claim? If I state I have bodyguards(but am not the mayor) does that equate to a Rock star role claim? If I state I have an investigative role, and all the other investigative roles are dead, is that a roleclaim? Approximately where is the line drawn?


If there can be no doubt as to what role you are suggesting that you are, then it counts as a role claim.

On October 12 2011 21:06 syllogism wrote:
Is the target of framer's redirection ability informed of the redirection?

If inventor is redirected, does it mean the new target receives the invention?


No.

Yes.


On October 12 2011 21:09 syllogism wrote:
If the framer targets a member of mafia, can their NK be redirected?

Do mafia have to assign who performs the killl?]


No

No
And so, we find the Sublime.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#368
On October 13 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
wherebugsgo is scum for trying to hide his identity in IRC.

Last game I suggested we RNG the draft order and numbers, but everyone clearly was incapable of seeing the value in my awesome ideas.

Introducing flawless draft plan 2.0!

Everybody submits [1][1] and we let the hosts RNG the draft order! This completely removes the mafia advantage of avoiding clashes. Sure, we would have to use the honor system to make sure nobody cheats, but this seems like a pretty trustworthy bunch!

infallible ~
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 13 2011 00:25 GMT
#369
If we're doing a top three deny strat we should definitely include framer in there. It's way overpowered.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 13 2011 00:33 GMT
#370
On October 13 2011 09:17 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
wherebugsgo is scum for trying to hide his identity in IRC.

Last game I suggested we RNG the draft order and numbers, but everyone clearly was incapable of seeing the value in my awesome ideas.

Introducing flawless draft plan 2.0!

Everybody submits [1][1] and we let the hosts RNG the draft order! This completely removes the mafia advantage of avoiding clashes. Sure, we would have to use the honor system to make sure nobody cheats, but this seems like a pretty trustworthy bunch!

infallible ~

JEENYUS
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE *Boom*
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 13 2011 01:05 GMT
#371
On October 13 2011 09:17 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
wherebugsgo is scum for trying to hide his identity in IRC.

Last game I suggested we RNG the draft order and numbers, but everyone clearly was incapable of seeing the value in my awesome ideas.

Introducing flawless draft plan 2.0!

Everybody submits [1][1] and we let the hosts RNG the draft order! This completely removes the mafia advantage of avoiding clashes. Sure, we would have to use the honor system to make sure nobody cheats, but this seems like a pretty trustworthy bunch!

infallible ~

On October 13 2011 09:33 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 09:17 Kenpachi wrote:
On October 13 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
wherebugsgo is scum for trying to hide his identity in IRC.

Last game I suggested we RNG the draft order and numbers, but everyone clearly was incapable of seeing the value in my awesome ideas.

Introducing flawless draft plan 2.0!

Everybody submits [1][1] and we let the hosts RNG the draft order! This completely removes the mafia advantage of avoiding clashes. Sure, we would have to use the honor system to make sure nobody cheats, but this seems like a pretty trustworthy bunch!

infallible ~

JEENYUS


Die Spam!!! (Aka warning)

Number Picks are due in < 2 hours. If you do not turn in any numbers, you will automatically be bumped to the bottom of the draft.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 13 2011 02:47 GMT
#372
So, me and Sandro have been discussing extensively the potential plans. At this point I am inclined to side with both him and Jimbo, and NOT allocate picks. We've been throwing around the idea of allocating the top pick the NRA member, but I'm not sure how valuable that is.

Basically my entire list boils down to keeping tabs on the inventor. Which as Jimbo pointed out, is perhaps not worthy of allocating a whole bunch of picks. Frankly, Inventor will likely fall in the top few picks anyways, especially if any town-aligned player in the top 3 tries for it. Scum will not be able to let it slip far, as they risk losing it outright and having a lower player get vanilla.

So, this brings us to the town role priority list, which me and Sandro were working on. Basically the idea is to focus purely on Investigative/Defensive/Protective roles in the top 20 slots. Slots 20-28 will then take either KP roles or miscellaneous roles.

Still hammering out some details, but the list will follow. It is not set in stone by any means, and it a guideline for townies to pick from. The lower in the draft order you are, the lower on the role list you pick, etc. The only real goal of the list is to minimize overlap among townies, and to give a list of effective pro-town roles.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 13 2011 03:05 GMT
#373
Draft Order Results:
1. Meapak_Ziphh
2. Kenpachi
3. JimboSilvers
4. deconduo
5. Mig
6. Cyber_Cheese
7. wherebugsgo
8. Scamp
9. sandroba
10. syllogism
11. Radfield
12. hiro protagonist
13. Mr. Wiggles
14. DropBear
15. bumatlarge
16. prplhz
17. Node
18. supersoft
19. Chaoser
20. Arctocod
21. Jackal58
22. GreYMisT
23. kitaman27
24. heist
25. Foolishness
26. Erandorr
27. JACCUZISPLAT
28. sinani206

You have 24 hours to PM your role selection to me.

dreamflower is now helping host this game.
And so, we find the Sublime.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#374
post the list before order is posted or it's useless
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#375
List looks something like this. NRA should probably have a spot, or at least needs to be dealt with in some fashion, but at this point I'm not sure how.

Investigative/Defensive Roles Picks 1-20

Jack
Inventor
Rock Star
NKVD
Doctor
Detective
Bulletproof
Meth Man
Medic
Capitalist
Parity Cop
Veteran
Jailkeeper
Bullet Bill
Witch
Role Cop
Tracker


KP and Auxillary Roles Picks #21-28

Dreamflower
Day Vig
America
King Maker
Qatol
Copy Cat
Mad Hatter
Bad Santa
Ace


This is the general priority list. Several strong KP roles have been left off the KP list, as the chances of Vig/CPR/Assassin etc making it that far down is essentially nil. Likewise roles like Thief and Role Swapper are not on the axillary list, because they will likely be picked up by mafia higher up.

There is a general tilt to the 1-20 list in favor of putting roles which are strong for both mafia and town towards the top, and roles that are only strong for town further down.
JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#376
[1][1]
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE *Boom*
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
October 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#377
Everyone please post your numbers now.

[8][8]
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 13 2011 03:09 GMT
#378
I posted [16][10] ftw
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 13 2011 03:09 GMT
#379
[15][1]
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
October 13 2011 03:10 GMT
#380
[6][12]
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