EPT1)If he was town scum would save ON since he was the last to get 3 votes if they blocked one of them.
2)redFF can't be scum and both ON and bum town since he could easily be saved with a roleblock, thus lynching both town.
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1)If he was town scum would save ON since he was the last to get 3 votes if they blocked one of them. 2)redFF can't be scum and both ON and bum town since he could easily be saved with a roleblock, thus lynching both town. ##Vote: bumatlarge | ||
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On September 05 2011 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote: Anyone get roleblocked yesterday? This kinda shows bum's claim is BS. If jcarl is pious and there's no roleblocker then the only reason bum would've survived is if one of the voters on redFF was pious. I can't seriously believe that. We need to lynch bum/Ace today since clearly the vig died or something. Let's assume the vig was varp and he's already dead. Currently bumatlarge has two voters. I was roleblocked again. | ||
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On September 05 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote: Bum is scum. His late claim is BS. I was minion hit. I received a PM from iGrok when I died advising me to continue watching the game because I would be resurrected at the beginning of the next day. The only thing that fits that is a minion hit. Can you claim exactly what blue role you are? Mafia already knows you are blue and if you are not mafia you are getting shot either way. | ||
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On September 05 2011 08:59 bumatlarge wrote: I am a Astute Lawyer. I can see how many votes were casted for an individual in the previous lynch. I checked sinani's list and saw 4 votes casted. That's why I think sandroba's claims are bullshit about being roleblocked, since there was a obviously a pious man on sinani's list. The only player alive on that list is jcarl, and by his actions where he was very suspicious of sandroba, I'm thinking he has to be the pious man. Sorry to betray you jcarl, but hopefully you survive the night and vote sandroba, because I guarantee you that you are right about his RB claim being fake. What the shit HUGE scum slip here. I had not claimed my second roleblock yet, but somehow my rb claims are plural. lol nice | ||
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Okay jackal there is a possibility that you are mafia if somehow ace is town. Can you give us a full claim with text pls or if that is banned what your role does. | ||
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On September 05 2011 09:49 Ace wrote: so somehow the Coroner role when divided ends up with a grand total of just 2 checks. Lol wow what bullshit. From the OP: "Not all role descriptions are complete." Don't you thinking by now the real coroner would have counter claimed? Also look at the list of players. If you think the scum team consists of redFF and sinani I don't know what to say. Also if the team is me/redFF/sinani why wouldn't we save redFF from the lynch by blocking one of his voters? What about bum's ridiculous claim have you nothing to say about that? If you argue the inhibitor is not present thus he could not be saved and the lynch results were because of pious I ask you to look at the suposedly townie roles because that would make at least 1 priest 1 medic 1 ridic lawyer claim and very likely a coroner since it's no flip. No roleblocker in this setup? I've been roleblocked twice and you are voting for me without any analysis or reasoning. There is simply no way you are town. | ||
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On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". Cool then vote for Ace. I didn't bring up colors as an argument of why he is scum, that was someone else. Check my posting history (and his) to see why bum is scum. Do you think redFF and sinani are both lying? How do you explain the kp discrepancy from day1 to day2 then? How is it possible that we got off 3 ressurections? Do you supose mafia would res sinani and priest res drazerk both knowing the other would probably target the same one most likely? If you believe their claims that means 100% presence of a roleblocker despite my claim. You can also see that both bum and ON voted redFF last day, so if redFF was mafia roleblocker would totaly save him. Thus by the fact that kp got reduced it means we killed a mafia and by the fact that inhibitor opted to rb me means there were 2 mafia up for lynch, so they had to choose only one to save. | ||
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On September 06 2011 00:56 Ace wrote: Amazing how you came to that conclusion, but believe that the town has a grand total of 2 Coroner checks when the game is at minimum guaranteed to last to Day 3 in a no flip scenario. Brilliant. Maybe I misread your post, my english is not that great =P. Are you saying you agree with that conclusion, but making fun that I believe the claims? I most certanly don't give a shit about how many checks they have or if they are lying about how many checks they have. All that I know is that seeing everything that happened this game is it is unlikely for both redFF and sinani to be scum seeing: 1)redFF advocated for sinani's lynch day1. 2)they both would risk being counter claimed as mafia, it's not likely mafia would do a gambit like this and expose 2 members. 3)No counter claims. 4)Behaviour from both players. redFF was indeed not the brightest this game, but that doesn't make him mafia. He wasn't playing like he had something to hide and was 100% transparent with all his opinions. Also look at the list of players. How likely is it that the scum team composed of 3 players contains both sinani and redFF? I also know for a fact that bum is scum, because for his claim to be true there must be 1 pious in palmar/wbg AND ON must have been pious, since both you and bum claimed some sort of role. Now look at ON's posts and behaviour, there is no way he wasn't scum. All of this was very obvious day2 when both bum and ON were up to lynch, yet you pushed redFF who was obvtown and refused to comment on the other lynches. I simply cannot fathom the idea you would be so oblivious as town, so that makes you mafia. | ||
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If you do that makes redFF town and ON scum. How in hell am I scum in that scenario? | ||
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On September 06 2011 05:05 Jackal58 wrote: A village idiot. A 3rd party role that wins on condition of being lynched by town. Some VI scenarios just declare his wincon met and remove him from the game when lynched. Others declare game over and VI winner if he's lynched. Ace is not playing scummy. Nor is he playing town. He's just trying to piss everybody off. Sandroba - Is Ace playing anything at all like he did in Sleeper Cell? Remember the game where he got the DT that called me scum lynched instead of me? Where he convinced town he was super duper spy with DT/Vig powers? This Ace ain't scum. He ain't town but he damn sure ain't scum. (Sorry to open old wounds Bum) Well, I'm almost positive ace is scum. He pushed the lynch on redFF ytd, but seen how absurd the idea was he didn't get much support except from the scum team. Also from his day1 play and considering the setup VI is very unlikely (there is double lynch and players get ressurected ffs). Bum is 100% scum and ON was scum, so it's not like it's the end of the word if somehow we mislynch ace. | ||
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Now the number of mafia players present is an important expeculation. I've given many reasons already why a number of mafia greater than 3 would be imbalanced and in one of your posts you agree with my logic. It also can't be lower than 3 due to balance and kp from day1. That being said that does indeed confirm varpulis and sinani as town. One thing I find funny is that you jump all over redFF's claim, but you say nothing about bum's. That is contradictory to your own personal logic. Look at bum's claim. If he was town and indeed had that role how would you use that? You would try to fucking confirm townies by checking lists that had one vote looking for pious. That would be the most obvious thing to do and probably imbalanced as it would 100% confirm a player to bum in that case. Yet you never bothered to look into his claim nor at his behaviour. I wonder why. Another example of contradictory behaviour: On September 05 2011 09:50 Ace wrote: shut your face. Jackal is telling the truth and he's legit. Why? How come? Don't you find it slightly intriguing that there is a medic on a setup that people can ressurect? Jackal is suddenly legit to you based on nothing, but somehow you think when other players use reasoning to deduce if a claim is likely or not to be legit than they are "jumping to conclusions". Nice double standards right there. Your rules only apply to others, but not to you when you are pushing your objectives. | ||
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Now you are doing the same thing here, saying you are great and have the most experience, yet this game you have done nothing to find scum or "break" the setup in favor of town. All those other games you played in which you were townie I'm sure you did great. Yet this game all you've done is abitrarily nit-pick on a claim from a COMPLETELY NEW AND MADE UP SETUP that you have no previous knowledge of. You claim it to be absurd, yet you say I'm the one jumping into conclusions. You completely disregard behaviour and other issues and you only push your agenda when convinient. You are not analysing each scenario and pondering everything, you are distorting the information to meet your ultimate goal. You are scum =) | ||
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