TL Mafia XLIV

On August 19 2011 22:07 chaos13 wrote:


Palmar is just trolling/tunneling atm. I don't think he's going to provide anything more than what he has, so we can pretty much just ignore him until he does.

No posts of Jackal's stand out to me right now. To be honest I didn't even realize he was playing this game until you made that post. Ask me later when he's posted more and I've had some more time to catch up on my reading the thread.

On August 20 2011 00:34 Palmar wrote:
It's not sheeping when my argument is the best in the thread yet.

Also, sheeping my votes is generally a good idea.

On August 20 2011 19:26 Pyo wrote:


woah, woah, woah... BrownBear? I thought you wanted DropBear dead?

On August 23 2011 01:08 Palmar wrote:


Hence "I don't know when and how".

The medic should absolutely claim if Foolishness was up for a lynch. Also, if the medic suspected he might be getting shot for some reason, leaving the information with us is good.

If I get RB'd tomorrow does that confirm Foolishness? Hell no... I don't even know what you're saying here. But yes, he's not about to be lynched today, thus it's stupid to claim until at first near daybreak tomorrow, maybe even wait another cycle or two.

People keep talking about Vain: I think shooting him tonight would be an excellent idea. He hasn't contributed squat to this game and doesn't deserve to live.

On August 23 2011 02:44 supersoft wrote:
why don't we lynch RayzorFlash? He's probably gotten coached and his death would give us a lot of information to work with...

On August 21 2011 09:02 Lucidity wrote:
Ok from the voting thread it looks like Sevryn is the closest to being lynhced. We can't no lynch.

##Vote Sevryn.

Hurray for deadlines at 4am.

I'll catch up tomorrow and shit. Sorry.

On August 23 2011 03:52 supersoft wrote:
funny how xtfftc, vain and rayzorflash defend each other ;-)





@vain:
you want an answer to your question? filter me.

On August 23 2011 04:13 supersoft wrote:
i'd prefer vain but let's do it.

##Vote: xtfftc

On August 23 2011 04:22 hiro protagonist wrote:


I have no idea what your trying to say Vain...

On August 23 2011 04:54 wherebugsgo wrote:


Who are the 3 scummiest people to you, then?

On August 23 2011 06:14 Jackal58 wrote:
Dammit.
Why did you slam a vote onto Sevryn when it was obvious there was a very good possibility the vote may have been shifted off of a person that appeared to be a townie getting mislynched?

On August 23 2011 06:00 wherebugsgo wrote:


Sorry for all the posting, but I just noticed this, gotta follow up:

1.) Okay, why? Why is nard suspicious to you?

2.) Why is xtfftc suspicious to you?

3.) Why is nard MORE suspicious to you than xtfftc?

4.) If you don't have a third person, what have you thought about Mig? Rayzor?

5.) Why are you lurking so hard?

On August 21 2011 04:42 xtfftc wrote:

In this case,
##Vote: Sevryn

Now, let's proceed with a discussion of what actually matters.



My gut says supersoft and QuickSilver but my gut is biased and wants those who go after me dead ^^ Although Supersoft being so cautious when defending Sevryn and yet so aggressive against me and his earlier bandwagonning is something worth remembering.

I want to hear more from DropBear and BlackBear. I do not find DropBear particularly suspicious but he still has to answer the questions raised. BlackBear is suspicious (going too agressively against inactive players, some random accusations) and, unlike DropBear, is a target we might get a majority for.

Hiro, judging by the OP I think we have about 6 hours left.

On August 23 2011 21:24 Mig wrote:
The whole thing is weird I don't know why db would fake claim DT then say he checked supersoft instead of saying he checked me.

On August 23 2011 21:43 supersoft wrote:
pff. are you kidding me?

Liquidite - Welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are JimboSilvers, the retired serial killer, you now live at the old folks home, Paradise Lost, while the place is disgusting, you have adopted a philosophy of pacifism, so taking up the knife against the mafia is not an option, you can however still vote to kill mafia, be quick about getting them lynched so you can go back to sleeping and playing cards.

Also, each role has custom fluff, to deter any silly ideas like name claiming, the mafia may at any point request a safe-claim from me and I will provide it, safe claims can be for any role, from Liquidian to Inquisitor

On August 24 2011 00:31 DropBear wrote:

Yeah well you know from RTM that my judgement isn't always best T_T

Sorry for being a retard but we need to get back to business.

RayzorFlash and xtfftc?

On August 24 2011 05:05 Kurumi wrote:
Someone looked at Lucidity's posts? Besides claiming VT in first post, 1/2 of posts being "sorry for being afk" he has done nothing. He said he would get a replacement if he wasn't able to play, are we lacking people or what?

On August 29 2011 16:43 Barundar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, you are putting way too much into the vote of a suspect. We have a red check from a sane DT, that alone is reason enough to lynch Vain, regardless of where others put their vote. Smart scum knows that newbies pay a lot of attention to other suspects actions, and as scum I've successfully scared off people from voting on my scumbuddy, simply by being suspicious and voting with shady enough reasons. If the quotes you have listed would have hinted at DT checking Vain the night before chaoser's claim, there might have been something to your framer theory, but now it's just null.

You haven't even considered that Nard could simply have a more powerful scum role than Vain, such as roleblocker, making it preferable for mafia to lose Vain first. As town you don't know scums intentions, so don't bother WIFOM'ing yourself into an endless line of conspiracy theories.

If you want to be productive you can start discussing what target to go after once Nard and Vain are dead. Personally I'm the most certain of Bumatlarge being scum, simply because BB post an analysis of xttffc, without commenting on mig at all, and afterwards completely ignored Mig posting his DB analysis, despite popping into the thread to drop a comment to Foolishness. Mig didn't bother yelling at him either to consider his case. Bum saying that BB's actions makes perfect sense without even reading the thread doesn't do much to change this opinion.

After bum I'm the most suspicious of Pyo for hardcore lurking.

For the last scum I'm a bit uncertain:
Kurumi did the capitalized Y in his claim, making me suspicious about him. I had him as town before though, simply because I think Palmar dieing was detrimental to Mig's push for chaos13 the day he got lynched, and because a scum vigi wouldn't feel the need to claim that he shot a townie.

RayzorFlash, because of Mig's chaoser push day 1 when he became a lynch target, and a couple of really bad posts.

Other mild suspects includes:
Errandorr because I simply can't read him. He seem to not have been afraid to give his opinions though, making me lean town on him.

Navillus for lurking hard after starting out well day 1. Could have been simply scared away by the spam though.

On August 28 2011 12:56 bumatlarge wrote:
Pretty silly chaser, i think we would have been fine with just going with foolishness on nard, but I highly doubt you are lying about your check. We should check Vains history to match up with chaosers claim, and by we I mean me. For now my votes going on him. I trust chaoser is telling the truth, and he's a strong town read.

##vote vain

On August 28 2011 15:56 Varpulis wrote:
Hmm, the margins of error that I can see are: Chaoser's is mafia, and he's not sane. I don't think he's mafia and he's confirmed himself as sane.

If you want to argue the possibility that vain's a miller, the same argument can be made replacing vain with nard and miller with nosy neighbor. For the purposes of my decision, I'm ignoring both possibilities.

I would like to stress that I'm not against lynching nard. In fact I would hope that he dies too, and soon. I simply think that it's better to lynch vain first.

I really do need sleep, so I'll revisit this tomorrow when I'm not dead tired; maybe I'm missing something. Hopefully both will have claimed by then, and we can move forwards from there.

On August 29 2011 23:41 Barundar wrote:
Mind giving us the rest of your reads vain, as well as your role text?

On August 29 2011 23:41 Barundar wrote:
Mind giving us the rest of your reads vain, as well as your role text?

On August 30 2011 03:18 Barundar wrote:
I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads.

On August 30 2011 03:51 chaoser wrote:
So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow.

On August 30 2011 03:38 Varpulis wrote:

reads mean scumreads. townreads are beyond useless, unless you're discussing a lynch candidate who you believe to be town.

this post literally SCREAMS scum. Especially the bolded part. yes we do, we get the opinions of somebody we know the alignment of, which is impossible while you're alive. You've claimed that you're town, so why don't you go about proving it? Scumhunt, weigh in on suspects, DO SOMETHING.

Also, telling people not to call people out is bad. Really bad. WBG, read this post, and tell me if he's town that got framed. I seriously can't believe how you think that, especially after reading posts like this.

On August 30 2011 03:55 Varpulis wrote:

I'd be quite disappointed in our vigis if he's still alive tomorrow (assuming kurumi isn't the only one) A double lynch would be nice right about now.

On August 31 2011 07:44 wherebugsgo wrote:


Are you going to post scumreads or not?

This post is like...not enough. To me it has the air of a townie who's just given up, but we need more from you, otherwise you're gonna get lynched.

In fact I'm pretty sure most people want to lynch you first, so you need to give us some great reasons not to.

On September 01 2011 22:45 Barundar wrote:
Vain moved during night? Please, do explain.

On September 05 2011 07:01 Erandorr wrote:
way to waste my 500th :D