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On August 25 2011 07:41 BrownBear wrote: After the way your last trap turned out, I have to say, you better have some damn good arguments. or what? Do your scumbuddys shoot him, if he doesn't provide a good analysis? Why do you threaten him? Right now, he's pretty green. If you were town, you should try to be useful, rather than just survive. | ||
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On August 25 2011 11:08 Kurumi wrote: Palmar-Mig-hiro protagonist-supersoft circle was worrying me. Palmar was clearly cluttering the thread when the day was about to end also he aimed to a no-lynch. I feared that supersoft could've been scum doc'd if there is one present. Lack of RB is just wifom. Someone wants to claim rb? _________ Btw, supersoft earns my vote. He said nothing from his own perspective and always parrotted/sheeped Palmar. I will talk about it a little bit more when it is not 4am. Okay you obviously didn't read the thread. I sheeped Palmar one single time at the start of the game to initiate any action because nothing was going on. It was completely random, that I picked Palmars accuses on DB. As I said before I just wanted to initiate any discussion. On August 19 2011 18:39 supersoft wrote: okay well, it's not exactly pressure what i wanted to achieve, i think it's more like get this game going. but you're right. Maybe it's not good to explain everything you do. ________________ After that I started to accuse xtfftc. [QUOTE]On August 20 2011 07:53 supersoft wrote: [QUOTE]On August 20 2011 07:38 BrownBear wrote: [QUOTE]On August 20 2011 05:09 xtfftc wrote: ##Vote: Palmar He obviously had something in mind and there's no way he wasn't aware of how his accusations would be perceived by the rest of us. However, his strategy hasn't benefited town by now. He has until the deadline to convince me to vote DropBear or BrownBear. If nothing meaningful comes out of the discussion initiated by him, I'd rather have one less player who throws arbitrary accusations around. I'd also like to point out that it shouldn't be that difficult to convince me to switch to DropBear, considering DropBear's behaviour. [/QUOTE] ah, okay I understand, you vote for palmar, not because you think he's scum, but because he didn't convince you to vote for DB. This is scumlogic. Town doesn't vote people for playing bad. Town votes for scum. Compared to DP, who proposed some really useless plans like this unnecessary mayorthing, your stuff seems more scummy to me. ##unvote ##vote: xtfftc[/QUOTE] after that I defended severyn right when the accuses against him began. At the same time I encouraged people to vote, because I think it's good to see early where the majority of the votes will probably go. It's just better for the discussion in my eyes. Otherwise there are hectic voteswitches at the end of the day and the whole thing is just a lot more random, but noone would listen. Especially the dear members of our scumteam xtfftc and nard. Consequently, because my both mainsuspects at this point of time didn't vote for severyn, I voted him because I doubted his innocence at this moment. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote: perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself. Not only does this behavior back up my doubts on your innocence. But it also changes my mind about sevryn. Since noone is going to follow my vote on xtfftc who is my primetarget I am going to switch on sevryn. When I realized, that he wouldn't defend himself, I told him to get up and do something, what was very important, because if he were scum, we would get more informations out of him: + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2011 08:22 supersoft wrote: sevryn, if you are innocent, defend yourself. it's not too late. If you are town, you should try to. Only scum doesn't self-defend, because they could give away important information to the town. Prove your innocence by contributing a lot! If not, we may end this day now. You got about 15 votes - counted without the people that claimed to switch their votes to achieve a majoritysituation. On August 21 2011 08:27 supersoft wrote: good god, you're such a douche. Why exactly do you even play this game? "awww there are 15 votes on me and the day ends in 5 hours - okay i give up" He defended himself and jackal proposed another target: Rayzorflash The case against RayzorFlash was much better and I tryed to swing the votes from sev to him. people who agreed me there were: Sevryn (dead town) Jackal58 (dead town) supersoft Foolishness Trotske (now iGrok) Navillus hiro protagonist (dead town) wherebugsgo varpulis curu hiro (dead town) I believe amongst those people, there is probably no scum - and rayzorflash is probably scum. I believe the scumteam stayed afk there. ANYWAY: Day2 started and people started accusing mig. I wasn't sure about him (and still aren't) so i tried to get a discussion about the rayzorflash incident going. In the progress xtfftc crossed my way again: [QUOTE]On August 23 2011 03:52 supersoft wrote: funny how xtfftc, vain and rayzorflash defend each other ;-) [QUOTE]On August 23 2011 02:58 Vain wrote: [QUOTE]On August 23 2011 02:44 supersoft wrote: why don't we lynch RayzorFlash? He's probably gotten coached and his death would give us a lot of information to work with...[/QUOTE] Can you write out what information we get then? In my opinion that only creates more wifom[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote: He (Vain) is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.[/QUOTE] @vain: you want an answer to your question? filter me. [/QUOTE] after that the stupid DB thing happened and I had to explain why the DT-checks are worthless. I gave away my role in that thing... I still am VT. when the DB thing was over with him claiming medic etc. I went back on xtfftc because he refused to answer my questions about other players I was suspicious of like nard. Suddenly people went on hiro. I didn't understand this badwagon and I still don't. I told you so and refused to vote him: [QUOTE]On August 24 2011 05:30 supersoft wrote: i believe hero is innocent and mafia is superhappy because they save xtfftc today... at least i am schocked how fast that hiro bandwagon started out of the nowhere...[/QUOTE] i admit, I could have explained my reasons a little bit better, but basically thats it. ah no I also remebered that hiro helped with the severyn/rayzorflash thing and I didn't want to lynch anyone from that rayzorflahsvoting-list. turned out I was correct. now people hate me for pushing lynches on scum and defending townies. *clap* | ||
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Cult Assassin (Scum Vigilante) armed with a single unholy dagger, the assassin is equipped to bring down even the strongest of foes. Starting after night 1 the assassin may fire his only dagger at a target. This counts as a single kp. so he isn't confirmed at all. This whole thing "I expected SS to be scummedicprotected" etc. I don't buy it. He thought he could accuse me easier than Palmar that's it. I believe if Kurumi was town, he would have been shooting someone else that isn't as active as Palmar and I. | ||
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On August 26 2011 04:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Mig - in my opinion, you're using the 'lynchpin' of who can prove that scum 'tried' to divert the lynch off you when that doesn't really matter. What you're not taking into account is that if town is doing it for them, they don't have to. They can want something to happen, subtly do things, without specifically and obviously 'trying' to do something. ESPECIALLY since MOST of the people on xtc lynch (imo) are town. This vote divert thing says nothing: There were several people that didn't vote anyone until the fakecheck on me / hirowagon appeared. - chaos13 was the first one who jumped on me right after DB claimed that I was red. And he didn't vote anyone before. - RayzorFlash had his vote at hiro right from the beginning. - Vain jumped on hiro without voting anyone before. - Nard suddenly showed up at the very end and put his vote on hiro. - Also Mig and xtfftc didn't vote each other. _______________ Conclusion I am convinced both are scum. That would explain the townies on xtfftc. further reasoning: Noone of them joined the RayzorFlash-lynch-attempt at day1. Mig and vain even argued against it. So can we please lynch one of these guys: xtfftc, mig, chaos13, nard, rayzorflash, vain I'd like to lynch Rayzorflash, because his redflip would give us a lot of informations about the people that voted him day1 and the people who didn't. Also RayzorFlashs red-flip would put even more suspicion on Mig. And if he really is town, he could try to prove it until day4. because of that: ##vote: Rayzorflash | ||
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But we have to stay focussed. The guys mentioned above are, judged by their votepattern and overall behavior, much scummier than him. We cannot afford another mislynch. Please listen to me. If I made a mistake in my logic, please show it to me. Right now, I am pretty damn sure about what I said in my last post. | ||
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On August 26 2011 05:09 iGrok wrote: Who is on the Kurumi-wagon? I'm still for lynching Mig. Please note that I didn't switch my vote. sorry, i obviously misunderstood you. | ||
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On August 26 2011 04:30 supersoft wrote: This vote divert thing says nothing: There were several people that didn't vote anyone until the fakecheck on me / hirowagon appeared. - chaos13 was the first one who jumped on me right after DB claimed that I was red. And he didn't vote anyone before. - RayzorFlash had his vote at hiro right from the beginning. - Vain jumped on hiro without voting anyone before. - Nard suddenly showed up at the very end and put his vote on hiro. - Also Mig and xtfftc didn't vote each other. _______________ Conclusion I am convinced both are scum. That would explain the townies on xtfftc. further reasoning: Noone of them joined the RayzorFlash-lynch-attempt at day1. Mig and vain even argued against it. So can we please lynch one of these guys: xtfftc, mig, chaos13, nard, rayzorflash, vain I'd like to lynch Rayzorflash, because his redflip would give us a lot of informations about the people that voted him day1 and the people who didn't. Also RayzorFlashs red-flip would put even more suspicion on Mig. And if he really is town, he could try to prove it until day4. because of that: ##vote: Rayzorflash I want to add, that noone except chaos13 and mig (who accused each other) have voted today or posted. That fact strengthens my suspicion especially on mig. Migs vote on chaos13 may very well be an attempt to sacrifice a less active player in favour of his life and credibility. Since noone is up for a Rayzorflashlynch, I vote for mig. Who knows if we find a majority for him tomorrow. ##unvote ##vote: mig | ||
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On August 26 2011 06:20 iGrok wrote: Glad to see that you agree chaoser. Mig is lynched today, and will flip red. Unless anyone else objects, we can now talk about what that means? Does Mig flipping red confirm Rayzor as red? I don't think so (though I do think that Rayzor is red). Does Mig flipping confirm BrownBear as red? Does Mig flipping confirm supersoft as a red? @supersoft: ...a lot of people have posted besides those two. P.S. If anyone else caught why Kuru is scum, say so. I'm not revealing it yet so I can use it later. Rayzor, BrownBear, supersoft - if you've got a defense I'd like to hear it. Particularly BrownBear, you've said little regarding Foolishness' accusations. xtfftc, mig, chaos13, nard, rayzorflash, vain ah yes xtfftc made one huge post about kurumi. Nard rayzor and vain didn't vote and didn't post. Rayzor has one post now. Contains nothing but an excuse why he was afk. and i why exactly should I defend myself? And against what? I posted a huge post 2 pages earlier in which I explained everything I did this game. Next time read my fucking posts before you post any nonsense about me. | ||
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Don't vote me, accuse me, talk to me or anything if you didn't read these posts! My explanationpost with correct quotelines: + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2011 11:08 Kurumi wrote: Palmar-Mig-hiro protagonist-supersoft circle was worrying me. Palmar was clearly cluttering the thread when the day was about to end also he aimed to a no-lynch. I feared that supersoft could've been scum doc'd if there is one present. Lack of RB is just wifom. Someone wants to claim rb? _________ Btw, supersoft earns my vote. He said nothing from his own perspective and always parrotted/sheeped Palmar. I will talk about it a little bit more when it is not 4am. Okay you obviously didn't read the thread. I sheeped Palmar one single time at the start of the game to initiate any action because nothing was going on. It was completely random, that I picked Palmars accuses on DB. As I said before I just wanted to initiate any discussion. On August 19 2011 18:39 supersoft wrote: okay well, it's not exactly pressure what i wanted to achieve, i think it's more like get this game going. but you're right. Maybe it's not good to explain everything you do. ________________ After that I started to accuse xtfftc. On August 20 2011 07:53 supersoft wrote: ah, okay I understand, you vote for palmar, not because you think he's scum, but because he didn't convince you to vote for DB. This is scumlogic. Town doesn't vote people for playing bad. Town votes for scum. Compared to DP, who proposed some really useless plans like this unnecessary mayorthing, your stuff seems more scummy to me. ##unvote ##vote: xtfftc after that I defended severyn right when the accuses against him began. At the same time I encouraged people to vote, because I think it's good to see early where the majority of the votes will probably go. It's just better for the discussion in my eyes. Otherwise there are hectic voteswitches at the end of the day and the whole thing is just a lot more random, but noone would listen. Especially the dear members of our scumteam xtfftc and nard. Consequently, because my both mainsuspects at this point of time didn't vote for severyn, I voted him because I doubted his innocence at this moment. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote: perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself. Not only does this behavior back up my doubts on your innocence. But it also changes my mind about sevryn. Since noone is going to follow my vote on xtfftc who is my primetarget I am going to switch on sevryn. When I realized, that he wouldn't defend himself, I told him to get up and do something, what was very important, because if he were scum, we would get more informations out of him: + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2011 08:22 supersoft wrote: sevryn, if you are innocent, defend yourself. it's not too late. If you are town, you should try to. Only scum doesn't self-defend, because they could give away important information to the town. Prove your innocence by contributing a lot! If not, we may end this day now. You got about 15 votes - counted without the people that claimed to switch their votes to achieve a majoritysituation. On August 21 2011 08:27 supersoft wrote: good god, you're such a douche. Why exactly do you even play this game? "awww there are 15 votes on me and the day ends in 5 hours - okay i give up" He defended himself and jackal proposed another target: Rayzorflash The case against RayzorFlash was much better and I tryed to swing the votes from sev to him. people who agreed me there were: Sevryn (dead town) Jackal58 (dead town) supersoft Foolishness Trotske (now iGrok) Navillus hiro protagonist (dead town) wherebugsgo varpulis curu hiro (dead town) I believe amongst those people, there is probably no scum - and rayzorflash is probably scum. I believe the scumteam stayed afk there. ANYWAY: Day2 started and people started accusing mig. I wasn't sure about him (and still aren't) so i tried to get a discussion about the rayzorflash incident going. In the progress xtfftc crossed my way again: On August 23 2011 03:52 supersoft wrote: funny how xtfftc, vain and rayzorflash defend each other ;-) @vain: you want an answer to your question? filter me. after that the stupid DB thing happened and I had to explain why the DT-checks are worthless. I gave away my role in that thing... I still am VT. when the DB thing was over with him claiming medic etc. I went back on xtfftc because he refused to answer my questions about other players I was suspicious of like nard. Suddenly people went on hiro. I didn't understand this badwagon and I still don't. I told you so and refused to vote him: On August 24 2011 05:30 supersoft wrote: i believe hero is innocent and mafia is superhappy because they save xtfftc today... at least i am schocked how fast that hiro bandwagon started out of the nowhere... i admit, I could have explained my reasons a little bit better, but basically thats it. ah no I also remebered that hiro helped with the severyn/rayzorflash thing and I didn't want to lynch anyone from that rayzorflahsvoting-list. turned out I was correct. now people hate me for pushing lynches on scum and defending townies. *clap* Another attempt to explain why mig isn't my first target: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2011 04:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Mig - in my opinion, you're using the 'lynchpin' of who can prove that scum 'tried' to divert the lynch off you when that doesn't really matter. What you're not taking into account is that if town is doing it for them, they don't have to. They can want something to happen, subtly do things, without specifically and obviously 'trying' to do something. ESPECIALLY since MOST of the people on xtc lynch (imo) are town. This vote divert thing says nothing: There were several people that didn't vote anyone until the fakecheck on me / hirowagon appeared. - chaos13 was the first one who jumped on me right after DB claimed that I was red. And he didn't vote anyone before. - RayzorFlash had his vote at hiro right from the beginning. - Vain jumped on hiro without voting anyone before. - Nard suddenly showed up at the very end and put his vote on hiro. - Also Mig and xtfftc didn't vote each other. _______________ Conclusion I am convinced both are scum. That would explain the townies on xtfftc. further reasoning: Noone of them joined the RayzorFlash-lynch-attempt at day1. Mig and vain even argued against it. So can we please lynch one of these guys: xtfftc, mig, chaos13, nard, rayzorflash, vain I'd like to lynch Rayzorflash, because his redflip would give us a lot of informations about the people that voted him day1 and the people who didn't. Also RayzorFlashs red-flip would put even more suspicion on Mig. And if he really is town, he could try to prove it until day4. because of that: ##vote: Rayzorflash | ||
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On August 26 2011 06:33 Foolishness wrote: It's still early, while BrownBear hasn't responded yet I'm not worried about him dodging this one =P I'd still like to hear what people think of the inactive list I posted earlier. Eventually we will have to start hunting in there so it's best to generate some discussion about it now while we're waiting for people to come back and/or respond to the accusations. 1) nard 2) lucidity 3) Trotske okay I overlooked lucidity, he did basically the same as my other targets. He may very well replace on of them on my scumlist. - he voted for severyn day1 and wasn't there for the lynchattempt of rayzorflash - he didn't vote xtfftc or mig but jumped on the hirowagon ________ Trotske/iGrok was there to lynch RayzorFlash, so I think he's rather town than scum since my scumlist already contains 7 people with equal scumminess | ||
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assumption: If mig really was town, mafia wants to kill him, since he's an experienced player and his death would cause a lot of trouble. people that voted mig: Foolishness - confirmed by DBs death chaoser - I have a townread Jackal58 - green DropBear - blue Varpulis - at least he tried to get RayzorFlash down Curu - i have a strong town read on him + Show Spoiler + (awesome post above! I 100% agree with you there, you developed my theory of xtfftc and mig being both scum very well!) probably no scummember voted him conclusion: scum didn't want to kill mig, he can't be town. | ||
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On August 26 2011 07:14 Curu wrote: And I don't agree with that assumption supersoft, a Town Mig is not a hot kill target because: 1) He's suspected 2) If Mig were to die and flip Town xtfftc would very likely be turbolynched There are many reasonable explanations for why Mig, if he is Town, was untouched by Mafia. I don't think that should be used as any indication. hmm you're right. However at least I think it's strange that absolutely no scum voted him. (assuming that I am correct with my judgements over these people) As for xtfftc who refuses to vote for mig and prefers to go for kurumi; I think it might be possible that he underestimates the case against him. Therefor he tries to establish another target with a huge post to peel of votes from mig. At the point of time when he accused kurumi, I already posted that kurumi might be scum because of the possibility of a acum vigilante. So he wasn't completely alone with that. | ||
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Only if you flip blue he's probably red. If he flips green, you're probably red _____ conclusion: Only mig flipping blue gives us any information. chaos13 gives us nothing about mig. | ||
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On August 26 2011 19:17 Mig wrote: I was more suspicious of chaos than BB? Not exactly rocket science. Super instead of lynching me for information. Look at everything I have done. Look at everything chaos has done and determine who is scum. If you think I planned out this gambit from last night killing jackal then breadcrumbing just so I could fake claim to kill chaos then go ahead and lynch me. I don't want to lynch you for information. I posted my reasosn for lynching you in like 3 big fat postings earlier in the thread. I just pointed out, that you are not confirmed blue if chaos13 flips red. | ||
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On August 26 2011 19:32 xtfftc wrote: This is a response to Curu's ealier post, spoilered because discussing Mig's claim is priority at the moment. + Show Spoiler + Oh, wow. Curu and Supersoft appear simultaneously 36 hours before the deadline and announce that I have refused to vote for Mig, although there are 15 others who haven't at the time. Wow. Okay, here goes. Curu, I addressed my early policy posts already: I wasn't advocating lurking; I was advocating against lynching lurkers. Please read my responses to the previous cases build against me before re-posting the same accusations. If you have anything to say about me responses, great - but completely ignoring the responces reveals that you didn't build a proper case. Then in the VERY SAME POST, he tells Foolishness to consider that Palmar is scum. When called out by Foolishness, he is very adamant in pointing out he did not accuse Foolishness of being Mafia and drops the topic completely rather than trying to argue his point (which was a giant contradiction anyways). I didn't say Palmar was mafia; I said that Foolishness shouldn't rule out the possibility simply because of meta arguments - so there was no other point to argue for. This was also the time when I was trying to motivate Palmar to get his act straight instead of disorganising town. There is no contradiction in my actions. I really don’t understand what is going on in here at all. Okay, I will explain it to you then. I wasn't arguing that Palmar was mafia; I wanted to motivate Palmar to be more constructive because I thought - and still do - that he had a good lead against BrownBear. A townie voting for him is can serve as a wake-up call. And soon after Palmar posted a well-written and rather convincing case. Similarly, DropBear was mentioned because his mayor campaign was rather stupid and I was hoping to incite him to get his act together. My concern was obviously justified as his DT claim on Day 2 was even worse than what he did on Day 1. Out of the three, BrownBear was the only one I was actually suspicious of. When I asked him to tell me right then and there what he felt about Sevyrn, he said Mafia. The thing is, if he was already so sure in his mind that Sevyrn was Mafia, why was his vote not there? No, when you asked me, I said I'd like to spend time analysing and wanted to wait for Sevyrn to defend himself before taking a stance on his alignment. When you pushed me to give you an immediate answer, I said that I think him to be mafia. How convenient of you to forget my initial reply. Will gladly answer questions but won’t offer them unprompted by himself. I had to spend a lot of time defending myself and couldn't provide enough analysis - but I started doing it as soon as things around me quieted down a bit. I posted a few things I think were overlooked by others and I also said that I am willing to answer all questions. Obviously, there is a limit to how much I can read and post. He was very ready and willing to put his vote into Mig when he has never played with Mig before. This is what I said about Mig: Sure. I'm still just as suspicious of Rayzor as I saw two days ago. His defense ("would a mafia say this?") did not convince me because he was in a position when he had to say something like this. However, just like to days ago, I think that he is someone who should be pressured to talk more until he makes another mistake or we are convinced he is town. Even if he is mafia, he is not particularly dangerous at the moment because he can not influence the town at the moment. This is why at the moment I'd go for Mig. Although he improved after his early post about Sevryn, he did not provide anything substantial. Also, although a lot of people casted their vote for Sevryn and then went to bed, Mig did it in in the middle tha attempted switch to Rayzor. I would like you to point me to the post where I was "very ready and willing to put" my vote into Mig - or to declare that you made a mistake in your analysis. As a side-note, I still maintain the same position on Rayzor. He has gone into lurking/afk mode, which doesn't help his cause. Quick to claim credit in case Rayzor flipped Mafia. Context, please. I said this after being asked by Supersoft (who was supposedly providing deep analysis of my posts) about my opinion on Rayzor - although I had already posted about Rayzor earlier. He calls Hiro a 100% confirmed Townie (I think under the assumption that Hiro’s self vote would show he is a Townie, but then why not try to convince people not to lynch Hiro?), Okay, really? Hiro says that he is willing to vote for himself even though he is town. Therefore, Hiro knows that he is 100% town - hence my question. I didn't say that I thought he was 100% town, I said that if he is town, he knows it and shouldn't vote for himself no matter what. If both were to be scum though, I don't understand xtfftc avoiding Mig's wagon like the plague today, a red Mig flip would relieve a lot of pressure on him. A lot of people are lurking much more than me, yet if I don't jump on the wagon immediately, I am apparently avoiding it. You could have at least given me the time to join it or avoid it. Not even a single mention of lynching Mig, instead actually chainsawing Mig’s attackers. Kurumi was after Supersoft; you are just making up stuff again. Who did I "chainsaw" apart from him? The only thing I can't see is both of them being Town since votes probably would've consolidated on one of them in that case, there was no need for scum to try to oppose either one. I don't see the logic behind this. It's not like there were 20 votes for us, there were less than 10 combined. On August 26 2011 07:22 supersoft wrote: hmm you're right. However at least I think it's strange that absolutely no scum voted him. (assuming that I am correct with my judgements over these people) As for xtfftc who refuses to vote for mig and prefers to go for kurumi; I think it might be possible that he underestimates the case against him. Therefor he tries to establish another target with a huge post to peel of votes from mig. At the point of time when he accused kurumi, I already posted that kurumi might be scum because of the possibility of a acum vigilante. So he wasn't completely alone with that. How dare I post an analysis on a suspicious player 44 hours before the deadline... And apparently I have refused to vote for Mig. Extremely suspicious indeed. Not at all like voting for Rayzor and changing your vote for Mig an hour and four posts later with this as reasoning: Since noone is up for a Rayzorflashlynch, I vote for mig. Who knows if we find a majority for him tomorrow. "Oh, wow. Curu and Supersoft appear simultaneously 36 hours before the deadline and announce that I have refused to vote for Mig, although there are 15 others who haven't at the time. Wow." There are exactly 7 people that refused to vote for rayzorflahs at day1 and also didn't vote either you or mig at day2 You are one of them. I have been suspicious of most of them earlier and with different reasons. Kurumi is not one of them. You accused him, that strengthens my concerns. Until I am proven wrong by mig, rayzor or you flipping green, I continue to push this. Your vote on mig at this point of time doesn't change anything. You know I have something good against you there. That's the reason, why you're talking to me again. Thank you. | ||
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On August 27 2011 00:30 Foolishness wrote: We can always just kill BrownBear and settle this Mig thing tomorrow. My case against BrownBear still stands as he hasn't even posted yet today, and he's only got 11 hours before day ends. I do believe that Mig is lying, but part of me feels that we should just take the safest option here. If he's indeed the tracker, it will force the mafia to roleblock him (or they risk him finding a mafia so once he does die we will know who to lynch). Of course we will make him check whoever we want (Pyo). I also do not believe chaos13 to be mafia. And Mig you never commented about my lurker list. I agree with you to take the safest option, but i'd prefer rayzorflash for that job. | ||
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On August 27 2011 01:29 Curu wrote: Right, but you had this: Actually this makes you look worse if Mig flips red, since you commented on your next leading wagon but never actually voted. Two scum wagons on day 2 is a very real possibility. Thanks for pointing that out for me, I missed it the first time around. Why is this thread so dead... dude, that's what I was talking about the whole time! the thread is dead because we actually stopped being idiots and now lynch someone with an actual reason and not only because he made one silly post (hi sev/hiro-voters) and Palmar is dead. I like the atmosphere in the thread - the huge posts and the constructive discussions going on etc. I feel like we're on the right track. | ||
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Actually I thought about it and I have to say I am lynching noone instead of mig today. We discussed this lynch pretty decently. And if we try to find new target now just because he claimed to be tracker, it will end in a mess. You know, what would you do if you're accused like mig and GM offers you a fakerole... Of course he's a tracker. This is the most valuable role we got except for vigilantes... I don't believe him and his claim... it doesn't change anything, this specific role casts even more suspicion over him :-[ | ||
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