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On August 09 2011 06:06 GMarshal wrote: I'm mildly disappointed by the lack of serial killers in this game :-P How do you know that? *Sharpens knives* | ||
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On August 13 2011 14:08 GMarshal wrote: He is obviously lying. LAL! Kavdragon for day 1 lynch! He's feigning fake activity, by pretending to read the thread. Also, Incog and Ver are obviously trying to create HYPE for the game, through constant delays in release. :p | ||
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Let's get this show on the road! | ||
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Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote: /confirm Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched. People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. | ||
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5. This game follows Extended Majority Lynch Rules. Majority = #of players remaining in the game/2) + 1. Unlike in traditional majority lynch, the lynch is NOT decided the moment majority is reached. Instead, only the final vote count matters. If there is no majority at the deadline, the day ends with a no lynch. Non-voters will be modkilled for failure to vote. | ||
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On August 14 2011 03:22 LSB wrote: Coag then? Seems unlikely since Coag doesn't troll the thread all the time No, that would be all-caps and one to two liners, if it was traditional Coag. :p Can we just drop who Kurumi may or may not be, and just ignore him for now? If the spam becomes unbearable we can just have a vig shoot him. (Also don't want to lynch a possible VI) | ||
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On August 14 2011 03:35 Curu wrote: How does this make any sense? Why would you give a Townie a win condition that is "oh lynch this specific Mafia member" THAT'S THEIR GENERAL WIN CON ANYWAYS. Much more likely that Jackal is a Townie with the win con to see another Townie/harmless 3rd Party lynched or Jackal is 3rd Party in which case there's the possibility Bill Murray is scum but still unlikely. Couple explanations: -It's to get him lynched, meaning that he has to actually get him lynched, and not killed by a vig -Roles were made before alignments were distributed Also, it looks like a posting restriction, not a win-con. Meaning, he has to try to get BM lynched, and is forced to do so, but it may or may not coincide with his win-con. There's nothing stopping redundancy or counter-productiveness when it's just: "You have to try to get this guy lynched". | ||
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Foolishness is Kav. Again, can people stop talking about Kurumi? He's spamming up the thread at this point, and it doesn't matter whether he's BM or not. If we don't like how he's acting, we vig him tonight. | ||
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If it's not a post restriction, please stop. | ||
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List: Dr. H Node ~OpZ~ Misder Barundar Flamewheel meapak_ziphh youngminii Scamp RebirthOfLeGenD Fishball (No posts) Aidnai (No posts) (I left out BC and Chezinu, because they mentioned they were going out) Then there's guys like Foolishness, who only have troll posts. It's a 32 player game, and 15 people have no actual game posts, with day being half over in 6 hours or so. Where'd everyone go? =l | ||
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On August 14 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote: Hark! Do point out where I have made a troll post if you dare! A nice bluff you seek here, perhaps you wish me dead so that your mafia team can rest easy once I have departed. Or is it that you fail to read between the lines? I assure you that I am very serious about my campaign platform, and I do not enjoy those that seek to erect brick walls in my path. For that is the mafia ploy: building walls in front of the townies. But I will not have any of it! I will take my bulldozer and plow right through all your walls. And by the end it is you that will be lying crumpled beneath the heap of bricks, where not even your fellow mafia dare dig to recover your rotten flesh. Nice to see you're around, Sir Foolishness. I thought you might be Kav, but I'm probably wrong. (Unless your diction is self-imposed) What are your thoughts on the game so far? What do you think about Jackal and Kurumi? What do you think about other potential lynch candidates? What do you think about the rather deplorable level of activity exhibited so far? People aren't talking, and that's a cause for concern. It's just the same people talking about the same stuff (mostly). Let's actually get this game going, please. | ||
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On August 14 2011 07:50 Foolishness wrote: It is as you say. The same people talking about the same stuff. Yet we all know by now that this stuff is useless to talk about. Kurumi is being his usual self is he not? Jackal is merely acting in his required role description. Nothing about alignment in there. Forget everything they talk about, it only hampers the town's progress. Tonight the town will be busy. Saturday night, all the missing people shall return, and from there we can find a good lynch target. But for now we must entertain ourselves with the few mafia that are trying to blend in. I read through Mig's posts with a certain delight, as I know it shall not be long before the noose hangs red in his blood. So, do you have any particular reasons you believe Mig to be scummy? If you want to actually get him lynched, you're going to have to give some reasons for why the rest of town should vote with you. I'm trying to see where you're coming from, but am having a bit of trouble, from just the 4 posts that existed from him when you wrote this. Regarding the argument between Kav and Aidnai, it looks weird to me. I don't know why exactly, but just how they're posting and arguing, it seems a bit off. Maybe it's just because they're related so they're going to write a bit differently to each other, but I don't know. =l Aidnai reacted very oddly and defensively to Kav's accusations, but Kav's been acting oddly all game, and there's the possibility that he's third party. I'd like to see more from Aidnai, who doesn't really have many posts. What reasons do you have for thinking Kav is scum beyond the OMGUS? What are your thoughts on other players? | ||
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On August 15 2011 06:02 Jackal58 wrote: Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post???? He didn't, that was Kav addressing him in a spoiler. -_- Aidnai, do you anything else to say about the game, besides just tunneling Kav? | ||
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Because of the flip-flop between voting for Kav, then you, or something else as well? | ||
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On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote: No, it's that all of his posts are like this Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. I can agree with that, but also, this succession of three posts looks really weird to me as well: On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans. Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today. ##Vote: Kavdragon So, VE thinks that Kav is an "obviously anti-town" player, and "certainly not town", enough that he wants to lynch him dead. On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. He still thinks he's scum, and he's chastising Node for not thinking the same. Note how strong his conviction seems to be about how Kav is anti-town. Then, a few people (including Kav himself) make a couple of posts defending Kav by attacking you. They all say the same thing basically, that you reacted strongly and quickly to Kav's trap. And then: On August 15 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit. I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai. So, he goes from thinking Kav is complete anti-town, enough that he wants him lynched, to voting for you. He goes from believing a player is scummy from an entire day's worth of information and behaviour, to voting for you because of a couple posts, within the span of 40 minutes. This kind of flip flopping seems really weird to me, and pretty scummy. It just looks like he wants to hop onto the bandwagon that will make him look more like town at the time. =/ | ||
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On August 15 2011 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This game makes me angry. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=117978 Voting VE for terrible post history, plus I read the last couple of pages and I still don't understand why aidnai is scum. LSB BloodyC0bbler Youngminii Barundar Misder Visceraeyes Chezinu Bumatlarge ~opz~ Node Fishball DrH RoL Most if not all of the scum team is in this bunch of players. They're either there because I have active red reads on them or because they're so inactive I have no read on them. VE today then bum, YM, or LSB tomorrow. Could Pandain, Flamewheel, Mr. Wiggles, Kitaman, syllogism, and scamp please post opinions on the recent goings on? I'm still trying to make up my mind on you guys and some more content would be helpful. If there are scum outside of the earlier list they're in this one. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/g9xl5.jpg) Just roll with me town, I kill scum. Well, I just posted a thing about VE, and actually ##Vote: VisceraEyes I personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason. At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who: -Made constant, shallow observations about the game -Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until -The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time. | ||
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I'm pretty sure Kav is town. I'm not sure that aidnai is scum. Between aidnai and VE, I'd rather lynch VE, because he seems much scummier out of the two. Also, I see that subliminal message, it's not so hidden. | ||
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On August 15 2011 12:28 Kavdragon wrote: Oh lol. Hmm. I'm not long for this world am I. That....was NOT at all how it was supposed to go. Interesting. So...I am green. There were certain things that lead me to believe that Aidnai was absolutely scum. Those apparently turned out to be false. Fml. If I die, it's my own fault. Now that I can speak without that voice (for the most part) I will try to contribute as much as I can, without the troll-like stuff included. I will answer any and all questions to the furthest extent that I can without violating the rules. Something good DID come out of this, but it does make me just as mad as you (believe me) that he didn't flip scum. What are the details of your sanity/insanity? (So long as it isn't important to keep concealed) Did you know aidnai was you evil twin and that's why you wanted to lynch him? | ||
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On August 15 2011 12:55 Kavdragon wrote: Because of the lynch, Yes. I've talked to Ver and the most that I can say is "My role PM lead me to believe that Aidnai was my Evil twin, and was Mafia." I wish I could be more specific. I will reiterate that i did NOT do this just to get rid of my evil twin. I did this because I thought it was a sure lynch for town on day one, and that is exactly what the town needed at that point. I'll have to check with mods before I comment on my sanity (Or previous lack there of), but I think it's safe to say that you will see a difference in my posting. Ok, so did you actually think that what aidnai was posting was scummy, or did you just get blinded by what you thought was confirmed scum and you tunneled the crap out of him? I'm wondering if you actually thought his posts were scummy, or if the primary motivator for his lynch was just your role PM. | ||
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On August 15 2011 12:21 Incognito wrote: ![[image loading]](http://www.teslasystems.com/images/gallery/tesla-coil-suit-1.jpg) Night 1 The rowdy townspeople dragged aidnai to a dark room underneath the city hall, hoping to test their new execution device before using it to execute the 3 inactives. The room filled with chanting and jeering, followed by a sudden silence. Aidnai winced as he saw the executioner motion toward the switch. A moment later, blue sparks flew everywhere, and the town began to cheer. But their cheers turned into confusion, as a still alive aidnai began to walk straight toward the executioners chamber. Before too much chaos could ensue, an arrow zoomed past the crowd and shot straight through aidnai's chest, killing him instantly. Disappointed at the failure of the device, the town pardoned the three inactives...for now. aidnai, Chezinu's evil twin has been lynched! Chezinu has regained his sanity! Nobody is modkilled today. We are looking for 4 replacements, however. Night ends tomorrow at 03:00 GMT (+00:00). Please send me your night actions before then. Chezinu's Evil twin has been lynched. Chezinu has regained his sanity. Mod-confirmed there's a Chezinu. | ||
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On August 16 2011 07:27 redFF wrote: hey there! Care to give any reads or anything? or are you just gonna lurk and make pointless, easy, looking like your contributing posts like this? Dis guy mafia. What the hell are you talking about? I have given reads, if you've read. Kav is prob town (But I need to re-evaluate after the weird twin business), VE is scum, and I didn't feel good about an Aidnai lynch. | ||
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On August 16 2011 13:12 Mig wrote: So what about pandain? I thought he banned kurumi from being able to invent, yet there was still an invention? Well, Pandain could have been trolling, or maybe Kurumi wasn't actually the inventor. I'm also happy there wasn't a blood bath last night :p | ||
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On August 16 2011 13:15 Mig wrote: Ok so foolish was most suspicious of FW/bum/tnkted/syllo? Looks like he had syllo/bum near 100%. On August 16 2011 13:12 sandroba wrote: I've been roleblocked. No pms for me today unfortunatelly (can't send or recieve). I can tell you that I was working closely with foolishness and he was suspicious of all these people he put high % in except for me and mig. He was unconvinced on ghur but I on the other hand am more than convinced. Did Foolishness leave any of his actual thoughts/analysis with you? It would be nice to be able to see some of his reasoning for his scum suspects. | ||
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 Did Foolishness actually leave behind any written reasons for his suspicions? I'd like to see what he had to say.Also, if you were in contact with MZ or Chez and have relevant information to share, that would be cool too. <3 | ||
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On August 17 2011 01:39 Incognito wrote: + Show Spoiler + Breaking News! ![[image loading]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/05/article-1300493-0AAEA6B9000005DC-945_634x439.jpg) Speaking with great fervor, Kavdragon's speech to the masses (read: soliloquy), was stopped short when he exploded, scattering him, well, everywhere. Kavdragon the Chezinu has been blown up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgRoqPd7h8o&feature=related What the Hell, Bum? Can you explain yourself, please? Why'd you nuke with no analysis, why'd you nuke without discussing it first, and why'd you nuke when Kav looked town from his actions on Day 1, and the only trip-up was the Evil twin thing? ##Vote: Bumatlarge | ||
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On August 17 2011 09:10 Curu wrote: Mig has a short name I like him. I don't think I need to explain why scumatlarge is scum. It should be hit-you-in-the-face obvious. Go read VE's posts and notice how he doesn't comment on a single relevant thing this game. Made a few posts like he was convinced Kavdragon was Mafia, then switched to Aidnai instantly rather than argue at all. Doubt he cared which one was lynched, as they were both townies. Now two nonsensical wagons out of nowhere when scumatlarge is on the block. Glad we finally agree on something. | ||
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I'd also say we should look at BC. If you want my reason, ask. | ||
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On August 18 2011 13:11 Mig wrote: Also someone can steal votes. They stole drh's vote at the start of day1 to vote aidnai and they stole opz vote to vote on LSB day2. So day1 used the power to help get a townie lynched day2 voted against lynching a mafia. Wiggles why should we look at BC? We should look at BC, because he is playing very similarly to how he's played every time I've played scum with him. He acts very disinterestedly and passively, and tries to slip by lurking, until town finally notices around day 3/4. I'm bringing him up, because he's been pressured to talk several times in thread, but hasn't actually contributed anything yet, nor has he given his reads. I don't want him to just slip by, when a DT should probably check him, if not even having a vig shoot him. | ||
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On August 18 2011 21:18 Palmar wrote: Given the VisceraEyes situation i'm inclined to think Jackal is town. What's the VE situation, is this why you think he's town? Did I miss something? Also, RedFF scummy, leaning town on Jackal. Not sure what to make of tnkted. | ||
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On August 19 2011 11:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: sadly no. Im not allowed to respond to questions period. Figure out a way to ask me shite without asking a question and we are golden. State your reads and thoughts, anything pertinent. I hope ordering works. | ||
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Anyways, BC, add stuff if you want. I'd like to hear more reasons about your reads. | ||
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##Vote: Palmar Everything that RoL said makes sense and is pretty much in line with what I was thinking reading through all this. Curu isn't going to trade for one town, especially when it puts his team in a position where mafia's KP is in danger of being lowered. It would be much better for them to play it safe and try to mislynch today, than pull some crazy stunt to get a townie lynched but lose one of their own members at the same time. | ||
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On August 20 2011 23:28 Misder wrote: Young is pretty town for trying to push for BC's modkill/attacking him if what Palmar said is true (as in scum knew that BC was the traitor <--- if he really is the traitor). And since no one brought it up yet, there was 4 hits yesterday if what flamewheel said is true. Also, thread doesn't seem like its moving as fast as it has been after Palmar gave up, which seems to suggest that anyone that was trying to move the thread on either days and stopped may be scummy. No idea who that would entail, but my mind is thinking Jackal58. @Scamp [spoiler][spoiler] What do you think Kenpachi is doing? And do you think it is scummy? (as in, personalities really shouldn't matter) Well, considering Palmar already bussed bum, it would make since that at least some of the other mafia also bussed with him. As in attacking BC? I... guess? Though it was more of a WTF Y NO MODKILL Whats with "Syllogism?" I'm just confused to that question. I was going to critique the Palmar stuff, but then I realized what Palmar said in thread is probably not the entire truth/there might be another motive. However, I think it is pretty useless speculating. Actually, I don't think it says much about YM. If BC was the traitor and that's why he flipped black, then mafia probably didn't know who he was, or else they wouldn't have had Palmar give up so easily to try to ask him to "claim in thread". The fact Palmar's trying to get him to claim seems to me like the mafia didn't know who he was, so even if YM was scum (I don't think he is), he wouldn't know he was bussing the traitor. Good to know BC was as scummy as I thought, though. I'm also laughing at Palmar right now. | ||
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-Tell us who your strongest scum-reads are right now (Besides Palmar) | ||
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Let's not lynch just based on personalities. -_- | ||
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So, this isn't a lost cause quite yet. because we have several good targets for vigs, and that should leave us at 7-3 if we have a vig, or 7-4, in the worst-case scenario that all scum shots go through and we don't have any KP. This is definitely still winnable, so I don't get the defeatist attitude going on. We can't just give up, and we have to try to salvage town atmosphere while we can, because it's more important than ever right now. Also, I'm pretty sure we have another scum as well: On August 22 2011 12:20 redFF wrote: LOLOLLOLOLOLOLL haha ##Vote Sandroba This look like gloating to anyone else? | ||
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That's my list for the last four scum. Maybe replace Node with Kenpachi, but they've both been lurking so hard, it's tough to tell. =/ | ||
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This makes it 7-4 right now, which means that after NKs (if they all go through), we'll be at 5-4 or maybe 5-3 (Vig's, please shoot the crap out of Pandain), placing us at LYLO. We can still win, but it's going to be very hard. Don't give up until it's over. | ||
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On August 19 2011 04:53 Curu wrote: rofl Scamp keep digging yourself in deeper. That's the opposite of a Pro Town mindset - Townies don't contribute opinions because they're asked to or forced to, they do it automatically to find scum. But scum only want to surrender their thoughts if forced. This post had me laughing a lot, if you look at my posting restriction. :p | ||
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In PYP:I, everyone was calling Incog scummy :p He even got lynched for it (which he shouldn't have, kind've like you) You played perfectly. ^_^ (No mafia bias here) | ||
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Went back and looked, you got shot or something, for some reason, I thought you were the day 2 lynch. T.T | ||
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