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On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote: Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now.
On August 14 2011 08:13 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote: Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now. Excuse me mister Qatol, but how do you suposedly know kurumi's aligment? Mah B. I should have said "Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal possible-mafia-possible-townie-but-im-leaning-townie-because-i-dont-think-mafia-would-be-that-utterly-stupid-and-risk-being-gone-from-game I'll remember that next time.
Don't backtrack. You thought Kurumi was Town.
@Jackal We're saying that Pandain thought Kurumi was Town, not that Kurumi is Town. His actions are ridiculously not Town for someone who thought his target was Town.
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On August 14 2011 08:39 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:38 Jackal58 wrote: Why are you guys assuming Kurumi is town? That's Jackal58 talking not L.
No one is assuming he's town, I actually have an analysis a few pages back where I'm pretty sure he's scum.
Problem is, Pandain's logic of removing his powers would be perfectly sensical if Pandain thought Kurumi was scum, but since he claims to have had a town read on Kurumi, and just wanted to stop the spam, his actions stop making sense. Removing someone's powers only leave them spamming.
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I think they're both scum.
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On August 14 2011 08:44 Jackal58 wrote: I think they're both scum. that's why we're lynching me duh
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Think someone is town = calling someone town.
Hmm.....
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If we have a day vig, I don't mind flipping one of them, for fun!
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On August 14 2011 08:46 Palmar wrote: If we have a day vig, I don't mind flipping one of them, for fun! I told You to kill me omg
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On August 14 2011 08:46 Pandain wrote: Think someone is town = calling someone town.
Hmm.....
Er yes? If I think you're scum or a VI idiot the natural response is to call you that in thread, not call you Town.
Kurumi if you are Town quiet down for a bit and let the grownups talk, thanks.
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EBWOP: That sounded way too harsh. What I meant to say was.
Kurumi if you're Town please stop spamming up the thread with useless posts asking to get killed. And lend some valid discussion.
Thanks.
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And I apologize for my harsh words. I mean no offense, but you can surely see how spamming "kill me NOW" while people are trying scumhunt is not beneficial to Town. I would rather you go back to your Pokemon posts than that.
I am deeply sorry if I offended you Kurumi. It was a stupid and ill-advised post by me. So pretty please try to contribute to the discussion meaningfully instead of martyring.
Sorry for the triple post Incog.
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On August 14 2011 09:05 Curu wrote: And I apologize for my harsh words. I mean no offense, but you can surely see how spamming "kill me NOW" while people are trying scumhunt is not beneficial to Town. I would rather you go back to your Pokemon posts than that.
I am deeply sorry if I offended you Kurumi. It was a stupid and ill-advised post by me. So pretty please try to contribute to the discussion meaningfully instead of martyring.
Sorry for the triple post Incog. what i don't feel offended, I feel more offended that noone talked when I shut up lol
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On August 14 2011 08:50 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:46 Pandain wrote: Think someone is town = calling someone town.
Hmm..... Er yes? If I think you're scum or a VI idiot the natural response is to call you that in thread, not call you Town. Kurumi if you are Town quiet down for a bit and let the grownups talk, thanks.
Not if I made him a non-VI..... and I didn't think he was scum wtf I thought he had a VI role so I wanted to get rid of it so he'd stop spamming. Didn't think I would get criticized so much for getting rid of a almost certain Bill murray.
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On August 14 2011 09:13 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:50 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 08:46 Pandain wrote: Think someone is town = calling someone town.
Hmm..... Er yes? If I think you're scum or a VI idiot the natural response is to call you that in thread, not call you Town. Kurumi if you are Town quiet down for a bit and let the grownups talk, thanks. Not if I made him a non-VI..... and I didn't think he was scum wtf I thought he had a VI role so I wanted to get rid of it so he'd stop spamming. Didn't think I would get criticized so much for getting rid of a almost certain Bill murray. lol VI is an alignment not a role omg who am I playing with
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On August 14 2011 09:17 Pandain wrote: wtf vi is not a role? Don't doubt yourself man. Its all in the rules. Theres a reason why in the sc2 mafia game a role is village idiot. And why village idiot always counts as part of town.
The rules shall be followed!
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What the fuck is this shit?
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On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
PEdit
Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather
No mention of gf anywhere in the OP Sandroba is Ver
On August 14 2011 00:19 tnkted wrote: Oh and I think that Wiggles is controlling our smurf
Why?
On August 14 2011 00:43 Scamp wrote: This is getting fun!
Also tnkted is probably Showtime! Why?
On August 14 2011 00:59 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:46 syllogism wrote: What's the point in personality speculation and fishing at this stage? You should keep notes of your thoughts rather than voicing them in the thread unless you've a reason for it. The thread is already quite unreadable with all the supposed posting restriction related spam. Even if you have a posting restriction you don't have to be so obnoxious about it as there's always some leeway no matter what the PM stipulates. WRONG Know what personality people have is very useful for town. Outing roles is lame, but knowing personality can help us understand clues that somebody might be hinting at without revealing anything. BTW guys pay attention to everyone's first couple posts. That's when we'll see the personality coming out the most, as people have fun with the roleplaying. (PS Syllogism is meapak_zipph)
Why? (in regards to the green bit) Otherwise I agree with the second half of this post, I’m still making up my mind about the first half.
On August 14 2011 01:10 BarBaPoPPa wrote: I don't think we should link the roles to alignments, if that was the case the game could be half-broken by just forcing mass-claim on day one, don't even need to claim the actual roles, just the names.
I don't think Ver/Incog would've balanced the game in a way that allowed it to be easily broken like that, so for now it probably should be ignored. This is a very good point that everyone should reread. If something could be gained by massclaims the game would be broken, given the combined experience of Ver and Incog I find that highly unlikely. So remember We gain nothing from name claiming at this point.
On August 14 2011 01:57 bumatlarge wrote:For interpretation purposes, I think it actually might not be a bad thing to figure out who everyone is. Roles most certainly do not pertain to alignment, as attributing a personality to an alignment would make this more of a research game, and scum would be better off not acting as their alter-egos. It would definitely be profitable to keep in mind who everyone is posting as, to analyze their posts better, but I don't think it's as easy as everyone is making it out to be. It should not be the focus at this point of the game. Kurumi's posts have been odd. While I'm a huge pokemon fan, reading past the glitter, I'm already seeing errors and assumptions that I wouldn't think any townie would make. + Show Spoiler +On August 14 2011 00:09 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:08 kitaman27 wrote:On August 14 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote: thanks ver for giving yourself to sandroba he is a genius btw this time roles are connected to alignment What makes you think that? Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 14:19 Ver wrote:General Mechanics Each player is given an alignment along with the identity of a famous TL Mafia player, which includes powers that fit the flavor of the player's identity. Personalities can be taken from (but are not limited to) the TL Mafia Quiz. Other than that, it's a straight up mafia game with a few twists, namely: Some personalities have post restricitons. Some personalities have secondary objectives. Some personalities are required to perform some action. Of course, these all fit the flavor of the personalities and are intended to spice up the game. Other than the restrictions in your identity PMs, you are encouraged to do whatever you can to roleplay your identity. Above all, have fun with the game! Warning: I heavily advise you to think twice before roleclaiming.+ Show Spoiler [List of Potential Identities in the game] +(Note: Role descriptions will not be given until death)
~OpZ~ 0cz3c Ace Annul AttackZerg BillMurray BloodyC0bbler Bumatlarge Caller Chaoser Chezinu Chuiu citi.zen Coagulation DoctorHelvetica Dreamflower FakeSteve Fishball Flamewheel Foolishness Incognito JimboSilvers Kavdragon Kenpachi Korynne L LSB LTT Meapak_Ziphh Meeple MrBabyHands nemY Pandain Protactinium Pyrrhuloxia Qatol Radfield RebirthOfLeGenD redtooth Showtime! Ver Youngminii
Role PM descriptions will not be given out until after the game is over. Only alignment and personality will be given. i think that points it out I'm not reading that at all. I think it's saying the complete opposite. The other things you say I can understand from whatever personality you may have, but this statement seems convincingly intentional. Care to explain? This is an extremely wishy washy post. In fact Bum this post makes me nervous because it reminds me of last game.
On August 14 2011 03:27 Curu wrote:Hi LSB. In reply to this post: Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:22 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote: I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.
So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.
Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business. From my role PM If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what. I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry. thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray Coag then? Seems unlikely since Coag doesn't troll the thread all the time I'd like you to take the advice so brilliantly laid out in this post: Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:04 LSB wrote: Personality fishing is just BS, personalities are not tied to roles and I have no idea why any of you would think that they do. What do you think you can tell me about Syllogism's role or alignment is if you know he is Meapak? Brilliantly played Curu.
On August 14 2011 03:46 Kurumi wrote:oh also I have self-confirmable role look out for "Notepad" in the next Day Post ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) Did everyone miss this post? Since Kurumi so far has sworn up and down he’s not BM he may have a way to prove it. This won’t prove alignment but at least we’ll be able to stop this retarded merry-go-round that Jackal and Kurumi are on.
On August 14 2011 03:54 Kenpachi wrote: guys, im the Detective fo shizzle. I will lead town to victory. Kenpachi’s role is pretty easy to figure out, I don’t know what his power is exactly but I’m pretty sure I know who his character is. Now this brings up and important question town, should we out people when we figure out who they are? I notice a few other people came to the same conclusion I did but I also notice there’s still a lot of speculation about ken’s personality. We need to devise a policy on outing someone’s personality. Personally I think we should keep name claims to a minimum. At least in kenpachi’s case his personality pretty much gives away his power (if he’s the name I think he is) and so in this case I’ll stay quiet
On August 14 2011 04:35 Jackal58 wrote: If Kenpachi is a DT I'm fucking Mother Theresa. We're not even 24 hours into day one and he has a DT check? Don't think so. He also came up with the wrong alignment for me.
I actually had to PM Incognito to ask him for my alignment. There was none included in my role PM. I at first thought I was some type of weird ass 3rd party. He answered my PM telling me I am town. Did anybody else have no alignment included in their PM? Maybe we are all town and this is simply a battle of personalities? All good points here, especially that last one. My PM is lacking an alignment as well. I’ve PM’d incog and I assume I’m a townie since I was given no scumbuddies or third party wincons but I don’t think a personality battle is that farfetched /conspiracy theories. This next part is from Pandain’s ban list post
Furthormore, people should not be revealing their roles. Powers are linked to personalities and therefore allowing mafia to know personalities allows mafia to know roles. The reason I am claiming is because my power can only be used once, and mafia aren't going to just shoot me because I can stop spam. Wait you can only use your power once? And you just wasted it on Kurumi? Very poor move. Also personalities =/= roles.
On August 14 2011 04:47 Mig wrote:Ok a couple things, kenpachi is clearly not a DT, he could not have checked someone already obviously. Pandain is known for fake claiming dt day 1 every game. So it could easily be a posting restriction and should be ignored. 2nd Jackal being required to push for bill murray's lynch is very fishy. It is unlikely they put a requirement forcing 2 townies to tunnel each other. When I have seen these type of posting restrictions in the past it is much more common for it to be forcing a mafia to target a specific townie. This doesn't prove jackal is mafia but he is certainly the most suspicious person to me right now. I could be wrong though, I am not the best mafia player ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) I agree with Kurumi who says that the last line is personality flavor. However you can post with personality and still make good posts. This post is terrible, it just restates earlier arguments. This is the good ‘ol CWC.
These are my preliminary thoughts. So basically town has done jack today. Kurumi and Jackal both of you need to shut up now, Jackal I don't care what your role says and Kurumi I don't care if you want to die. Right now all that has happened is town is completely directionless and scum is probably lurking their little hearts out. I have a couple of suspects who I will now go back an analyze. I of course guarantee two scum but I might even find three. Oh and I drew up a little pic to represent how things are going and how the future will look.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t5vYG.jpg)
If you wanna see the mafia get smoked just role with me.
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That propaganda poster has convinced me.
I am now a loyal Meapak follower and will vote however he votes. Sheepsheep.
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I am guessing "Notepad" was some invention Kurumi could make that would confirm himself as Town.
That's actually a really good point Meapak. Too bad someone stopped Kurumi from being able to do this.
HMMMM.
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