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Jackal whats happened now kurumi is dead?
Vote me for mayor and WE WILL FUCKING WIN THIS GAME. I AM UNCORRUPTABLE UNLIKE FOOLISHNESS, COME ON TOWN DONT BE FUCKING IDIOTS AND VOTE ME.
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On August 17 2011 00:11 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 23:14 Pandain wrote: I, Qatol, am proud to announce, that I am reinstating....
THE BANLIST Yes indeed I am in possesion of probably the most badass role in this game. Not only do I get to strip people of their powers, but I can do it once per day . But how shall we use this? As we learned from the Horrible Tradgedy of Kurumi, banning people must be done with severe consideration. ![[image loading]](http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187761_243401183436_7876335_q.jpg) My name Elle, I like eat I personally feel that we should ban Redff, he has done almost nothing but spam this game. He is hiding behind his personality(which I have feared scum would do this game) so that he can do no real contribution. Unless he starts to kick it up a notch, I will probably ban him. I disagree. If your ban does nothing other than strip powers, I'd much rather you direct it at bumatlarge or Scamp. If you can somehow silence or kill the person, then go ahead since I'm almost certain redFF's Mayor stuff is fake and he continues it against the health of the thread.
HOLY FUCK DUDE. HAVE YOU EVEN TAKEN ONE FUCKING LOOK AT THE MAFIA QUIZ THREAD OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO CONTINUE BEING A RETARD.
Ignorance is not acceptable. I want everyone to go look at the mafia quiz thread and try and figure out why people are posting weirdly. I had foolishness as 0cz3c before he died fairly easily, and random people were still trying to figure out his role. use some common sense ffs.
On August 16 2011 13:24 Curu wrote:
Well I'm bulletproof, but I need to claim it Day 2 or I lose my other abilities. I tried to draw a hit yesterday with my claim but no go.
lol yes a watcher claim in a game where everyone has powers is sure to draw a scum hit herp derp. hw about instead of that you decided to actually scumhunt and draw a hit by finding mafia. I know you can do it because i have seen you do it.
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On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
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Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader?
On August 14 2011 04:32 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:29 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
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Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes. So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort) I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person. VisceraEyes is the most awesome person on the planet. I suspected pre-game Chezinu would be a Cultist role. Just read through his TL Quiz.
On August 15 2011 06:20 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:09 aidnai wrote:On August 15 2011 06:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:02 Jackal58 wrote:On August 15 2011 05:52 deconduo wrote:On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. I would like to point out that I am the only person thus far who has done any "scumhunting" thus far. (As most "analysis" have been poor and not anything that would set a lynch.) I set the trap for inactive people, and Aidnai jumped in it. Silly VE doens't want to give me the benefit of the doubt. A better question: Why not Aidnai? He's only come in to defend himself, and then dissapeared. Do you dissagree with my analysis of his reaction to my pressure? You will notice that I almost never posted something about Walton by itself. I always gave advice to the town, tried to get people to stop spaming, or commented on some situation, and then, as an addendum, added the Walton stuff on. I did this because I knew that nobody would understand Walton, and that it could NOT be the only thing I contributed. Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack. To those of you who think that I'm a cultist: "Recruiting" Kurumi was an attempt to get him to stop spammign, and make him uesful for the town. You will notice that every public action has the hashtag form, and I have never used that. This means that if I have a recruiting power, it would have to be private, in which case why would I make it public that I was recruiting Kurumi? It makes no sense. I am not a cultist, I amd town. (Oh, and there. I deny being anything other than town. Not so sure what's magical about those words, but if you want them, there they are.) That sounds pretty damning to me. My two top scum suspects at the moment are Aidnai and LSB. I would prefer to get LSB lynched but that isn't going to happen with 6 hours left. I'm somewhat aprehensive about trusting you, but you're not dumb enough to offer a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't certain. Don't expect to wiggle out of it if aidnai flips town though. Vote Aidnai Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post???? He didn't, that was Kav addressing him in a spoiler. -_- Aidnai, do you anything else to say about the game, besides just tunneling Kav? Visceraeyes is scum too. GTFO with your scummy ass bullshit, VE is the towniest superhero in this Town. VE is so obvtown it hurts me how obvtown he is. V ery very Town is VisceraEyes, I think Aidnai must certainly go bye. S cummy scummy Aidnai is so scummy scum, C asting your vote on VisceraEyes is just so dumb. E verybody should be agreeing VisceraEyes TOWN, R ascals like Aidnai are gonna go DOWN. A ll bask in the glory, our Town Superman, E ven though only I can be VE's #1 fan. Y ell to the world VE HAS ALL MY LOVE, E verybody bask in our angel from above. S o in conclusion LEAVE VISCERAEYES ALONE.
On August 15 2011 06:24 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Please someone summarize why we're voting aidnai in the next 15 minutes. I have to take a shower then I'm going out for a while and won't be back in time for the vote. I think Visceraeyes and bum are the scummiest people right now but maybe that's because I don't understand the case against Aidnai. If I'm not convinced by anyone's arguments when I get back I'm going to post a case against VE. GET OUT VISCERAEYES #1 TOWN, HE IS SO TOWNIE TOWN TOWN HIS NICKNAME IS TINY TOWN TONY. Bum I can agree with though.
On August 15 2011 06:31 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote:No, it's that all of his posts are like this On August 13 2011 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say. Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. No he's giving you the glory of his presence back off gurl VisceraEyes #1 Town.
On August 15 2011 08:00 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote:No, it's that all of his posts are like this On August 13 2011 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say. Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. I can agree with that, but also, this succession of three posts looks really weird to me as well: On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon So, VE thinks that Kav is an "obviously anti-town" player, and "certainly not town", enough that he wants to lynch him dead. On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. He still thinks he's scum, and he's chastising Node for not thinking the same. Note how strong his conviction seems to be about how Kav is anti-town. Then, a few people (including Kav himself) make a couple of posts defending Kav by attacking you. They all say the same thing basically, that you reacted strongly and quickly to Kav's trap. And then: On August 15 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit.
I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai. So, he goes from thinking Kav is complete anti-town, enough that he wants him lynched, to voting for you. He goes from believing a player is scummy from an entire day's worth of information and behaviour, to voting for you because of a couple posts, within the span of 40 minutes. This kind of flip flopping seems really weird to me, and pretty scummy. It just looks like he wants to hop onto the bandwagon that will make him look more like town at the time. =/ Drop it bro, VisceraEyes is Town beyond Town. He's from the Land Before Town, you know like that movie the Land Before Time with dinosaurs and stuff that people love so much, that's VisceraEyes, the loveable dinosaur. Today's unlynchable Pro Town list: 1. VisceraEyes
On August 15 2011 10:00 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 09:56 Node wrote:
All right, here's my read on things.
- I don't think Kav is scum. He's right that he's contributed more in his "letters" than they immediately let on. Also, I'm just plain curious about Wilson. Bad reason, I know, but I can't resist a good mystery.
- I'm not sure about aidnai being scum.
- I'm really really iffy about VisceraEyes. It's already been stated that he's been flip-floppy and non-commital, giving the Kav-train the little push it might take to eventually bring it to a lynch. And beyond that, Curu's wacky post-restriction-y defense of him is very odd. Just for a demonstration: Hey Curu! I think VisceraEyes is scum!
- I would like to hear what flamewheel is thinking right now. Dude's way too quiet.
So for now, I'm sticking my vote on VisceraEyes, but if it comes down to it I'll vote aidnai because I'd like to see a lynch happen today. I'll tell you now what Flamewheel is thinking: VisceraEyes is The Great Unlynchable super Town so get your stupid vote off him. VE only appears non-committal to you because the logic that he uses is so advanced you could not possibly understand it.
On August 15 2011 10:06 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 10:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I think VE is a good target if we could get the votes to lynch him.
I'm pretty sure Kav is town. I'm not sure that aidnai is scum. Between aidnai and VE, I'd rather lynch VE, because he seems much scummier out of the two.
Also, I see that subliminal message, it's not so hidden. I hate you. He is Town. VisceraEyes for President of TL Town.
And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes.
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On August 17 2011 01:54 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I've been growing exceedingly suspicious of Curu. He's familiar with my town play, and I have NOT been playing my typical town game this game. Yet he's been defending me HARD all game long. Anytime someone throws ANY suspicion on me, he defends me. It feels to me like someone who's sure of my alignment, and wants me to trust them (for whatever reason.) Obviously, it could be a part of his role (the vehemency of his defense of me stinks of post restriction,) but why me? I have no history with anyone the hosts would have chosen as personalities in this game. My guess? Because as town, I have a tendency to trust anyone who trusts me.
He hasn't done so much as cast suspicion on ANYONE until recently, and even now it's someone who others suspect. I think he might be a good lynch for today guys.
##Vote: Curu It's okay. I'm pretty sure you're Mafia. Mafia votes don't phase me. You're totally yesterday's news.
talk about hiding behind a posting restriction.... curu what gives.
Vote me for mayor and i will use my votes as town sees fit!
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On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote:
We should not kill Bumatlarge
Has he been retarded? Yes
But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions.
The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it.
Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally.
Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded.
I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either.
Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch.
I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon.
wait if u think hes town why neutralize his role?
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##Vote Pandain for taking away the roles of 2 players he thought were town.
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On August 17 2011 06:20 Palmar wrote:
screw it, there's a hole in the logic.
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Pandain's defending of Bumatlarge does not make any sense whatsoever if Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green.
If Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green, what's the motivation behind trying to actively push a lynch away from town that was almost surely going to be lynched? Why on earth would he put his neck out to try to stop a lynch on town?
What I think is happening here is that they're both red, but they realized that if Pandain gets lynched now, Bumatlarge looks really good. If Bumatlarge gets lynched now, Pandain is still under heavy suspicion.
Voila, make a scummy defense post, give Bumatlarge a fuckton of town-credit, bus one scum, and you're good to go. Losing Pandain at this point for the scumteam is the optimal play since Bumatlarge was going to get lynched.
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On August 17 2011 02:07 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:03 redFF wrote:from all this On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
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Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? On August 14 2011 04:32 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:29 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
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Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes. So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort) I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person. VisceraEyes is the most awesome person on the planet. I suspected pre-game Chezinu would be a Cultist role. Just read through his TL Quiz. On August 15 2011 06:20 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 06:09 aidnai wrote:On August 15 2011 06:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:02 Jackal58 wrote:On August 15 2011 05:52 deconduo wrote:On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:
First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda.
Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point.
I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source.
I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned.
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This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. I would like to point out that I am the only person thus far who has done any "scumhunting" thus far. (As most "analysis" have been poor and not anything that would set a lynch.) I set the trap for inactive people, and Aidnai jumped in it. Silly VE doens't want to give me the benefit of the doubt. A better question: Why not Aidnai? He's only come in to defend himself, and then dissapeared. Do you dissagree with my analysis of his reaction to my pressure? You will notice that I almost never posted something about Walton by itself. I always gave advice to the town, tried to get people to stop spaming, or commented on some situation, and then, as an addendum, added the Walton stuff on. I did this because I knew that nobody would understand Walton, and that it could NOT be the only thing I contributed. Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack. To those of you who think that I'm a cultist: "Recruiting" Kurumi was an attempt to get him to stop spammign, and make him uesful for the town. You will notice that every public action has the hashtag form, and I have never used that. This means that if I have a recruiting power, it would have to be private, in which case why would I make it public that I was recruiting Kurumi? It makes no sense. I am not a cultist, I amd town. (Oh, and there. I deny being anything other than town. Not so sure what's magical about those words, but if you want them, there they are.) That sounds pretty damning to me. My two top scum suspects at the moment are Aidnai and LSB. I would prefer to get LSB lynched but that isn't going to happen with 6 hours left. I'm somewhat aprehensive about trusting you, but you're not dumb enough to offer a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't certain. Don't expect to wiggle out of it if aidnai flips town though. Vote Aidnai Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post???? He didn't, that was Kav addressing him in a spoiler. -_- Aidnai, do you anything else to say about the game, besides just tunneling Kav? Visceraeyes is scum too. GTFO with your scummy ass bullshit, VE is the towniest superhero in this Town. VE is so obvtown it hurts me how obvtown he is. V ery very Town is VisceraEyes, I think Aidnai must certainly go bye. S cummy scummy Aidnai is so scummy scum, C asting your vote on VisceraEyes is just so dumb. E verybody should be agreeing VisceraEyes TOWN, R ascals like Aidnai are gonna go DOWN. A ll bask in the glory, our Town Superman, E ven though only I can be VE's #1 fan. Y ell to the world VE HAS ALL MY LOVE, E verybody bask in our angel from above. S o in conclusion LEAVE VISCERAEYES ALONE. On August 15 2011 06:24 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 06:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Please someone summarize why we're voting aidnai in the next 15 minutes. I have to take a shower then I'm going out for a while and won't be back in time for the vote. I think Visceraeyes and bum are the scummiest people right now but maybe that's because I don't understand the case against Aidnai. If I'm not convinced by anyone's arguments when I get back I'm going to post a case against VE. GET OUT VISCERAEYES #1 TOWN, HE IS SO TOWNIE TOWN TOWN HIS NICKNAME IS TINY TOWN TONY. Bum I can agree with though. On August 15 2011 06:31 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote:No, it's that all of his posts are like this On August 13 2011 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say. Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. No he's giving you the glory of his presence back off gurl VisceraEyes #1 Town. On August 15 2011 08:00 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 07:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote:No, it's that all of his posts are like this On August 13 2011 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say. Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. I can agree with that, but also, this succession of three posts looks really weird to me as well: On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon So, VE thinks that Kav is an "obviously anti-town" player, and "certainly not town", enough that he wants to lynch him dead. On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. He still thinks he's scum, and he's chastising Node for not thinking the same. Note how strong his conviction seems to be about how Kav is anti-town. Then, a few people (including Kav himself) make a couple of posts defending Kav by attacking you. They all say the same thing basically, that you reacted strongly and quickly to Kav's trap. And then: On August 15 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit.
I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai. So, he goes from thinking Kav is complete anti-town, enough that he wants him lynched, to voting for you. He goes from believing a player is scummy from an entire day's worth of information and behaviour, to voting for you because of a couple posts, within the span of 40 minutes. This kind of flip flopping seems really weird to me, and pretty scummy. It just looks like he wants to hop onto the bandwagon that will make him look more like town at the time. =/ Drop it bro, VisceraEyes is Town beyond Town. He's from the Land Before Town, you know like that movie the Land Before Time with dinosaurs and stuff that people love so much, that's VisceraEyes, the loveable dinosaur. Today's unlynchable Pro Town list: 1. VisceraEyes On August 15 2011 10:00 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 09:56 Node wrote:
All right, here's my read on things.
- I don't think Kav is scum. He's right that he's contributed more in his "letters" than they immediately let on. Also, I'm just plain curious about Wilson. Bad reason, I know, but I can't resist a good mystery.
- I'm not sure about aidnai being scum.
- I'm really really iffy about VisceraEyes. It's already been stated that he's been flip-floppy and non-commital, giving the Kav-train the little push it might take to eventually bring it to a lynch. And beyond that, Curu's wacky post-restriction-y defense of him is very odd. Just for a demonstration: Hey Curu! I think VisceraEyes is scum!
- I would like to hear what flamewheel is thinking right now. Dude's way too quiet.
So for now, I'm sticking my vote on VisceraEyes, but if it comes down to it I'll vote aidnai because I'd like to see a lynch happen today. I'll tell you now what Flamewheel is thinking: VisceraEyes is The Great Unlynchable super Town so get your stupid vote off him. VE only appears non-committal to you because the logic that he uses is so advanced you could not possibly understand it. On August 15 2011 10:06 Curu wrote:On August 15 2011 10:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I think VE is a good target if we could get the votes to lynch him.
I'm pretty sure Kav is town. I'm not sure that aidnai is scum. Between aidnai and VE, I'd rather lynch VE, because he seems much scummier out of the two.
Also, I see that subliminal message, it's not so hidden. I hate you. He is Town. VisceraEyes for President of TL Town. And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes. to this On August 17 2011 01:54 Curu wrote:On August 17 2011 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I've been growing exceedingly suspicious of Curu. He's familiar with my town play, and I have NOT been playing my typical town game this game. Yet he's been defending me HARD all game long. Anytime someone throws ANY suspicion on me, he defends me. It feels to me like someone who's sure of my alignment, and wants me to trust them (for whatever reason.) Obviously, it could be a part of his role (the vehemency of his defense of me stinks of post restriction,) but why me? I have no history with anyone the hosts would have chosen as personalities in this game. My guess? Because as town, I have a tendency to trust anyone who trusts me.
He hasn't done so much as cast suspicion on ANYONE until recently, and even now it's someone who others suspect. I think he might be a good lynch for today guys.
##Vote: Curu It's okay. I'm pretty sure you're Mafia. Mafia votes don't phase me. You're totally yesterday's news. talk about hiding behind a posting restriction.... curu what gives. Vote me for mayor and i will use my votes as town sees fit! I'll let someone else who can see the blaringly obvious explain it to you. bumatlarge is for sure Mafia, and VE very likely Mafia. I will explain this when I come home.
Hey are you home yet?
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regardless the fact that 2 people have already said you're coag and he came out and said it without hesitation, revealing he may have a rolecheck, is mighty fishy T.T
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Roleblock can be town, but i think he's rolethief considering we had an invention last night.
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vote me for mayor everyone once pandain flips scum cuz im obv confirmed after that ;:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
fo rela
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because he took away the powers of 2 players he believed were town. not to mention that we still have an inventor about and an unclaimed invention.
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On August 17 2011 15:20 Barundar wrote:
This is the kind of chaos I expect when a red is on the line.
##Vote Bumatlarge
lurk harder!
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