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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 01 2011 08:41 GMT
#23
On August 01 2011 14:15 Curu wrote:
Hope youngminii gets Day Vig again in this game.

/in
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 01 2011 15:04 GMT
#49
On August 01 2011 22:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
/in

fuck yes drh welcome back
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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Last Edited: 2011-08-01 16:04:39
August 01 2011 15:57 GMT
#55
On August 02 2011 00:11 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 00:04 youngminii wrote:
On August 01 2011 22:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
/in

fuck yes drh welcome back

oh damn.. I forgot to put You on the roster.. You're the 21th player...

i hate love you
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 01 2011 19:10 GMT
#80
mrifnoc\
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 01 2011 19:59 GMT
#95
Curu posting weirdly
The rhymes aren't even that good
I prefer haikus
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 07:26 GMT
#215
fairly certain redff is scum
he's playing exactly like that other game where i was scum with him
i'm sorry red but your scum play is so obvious
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 18:53 GMT
#246
Man if I was a Vig there would be at least 3 people dead and about 30 more pages.

Booooooooring.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 02 2011 19:15 GMT
#248
Mig is scum.

Stop it with that overly aggressive 'pressure' you are putting on people. You're asking everyone everything just for the sake of it. You've asked so many people about their opinions or tried to aggressively 'pressure' someone, but it's not pressure because you just back off straight away.

You are not an asshole, yet you are being an asshole (both in thread and in IRC). The only reason I can think of why you are doing this is because you want to appear to be doing something fruitful and active.

Happy?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 19:18 GMT
#250
LOL
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 19:33 GMT
#254
On August 03 2011 04:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
wouldnt it be hilarious if this was the third game where both me and ym are town and because i called him out on bad posting he either shoots me or tries to get me lynched and then we both die

nobody remembers what you're talking about
no need to remind them

As for Mig, on top of my statement earlier, he has been coming into IRC telling me to post in the thread more on the basis of "you have to post so that you'll slip up if you're scum" or something along those lines. Hang on a minute..

I will be in #loonybin on IRC and I will be pming most people. Everyone should hang out in the town's IRC whenever they are free. Townies should be pming people and talking on irc as much as possible. It is much easier for mafia to slip up and reveal themselves than it is for a townie to give away any vital information. So don't be afraid to be active and talk to people.

I'm posting plenty on IRC. Why are you calling me out so hard? Mig actually said that he'd prefer my playstyle in AA over the way I'm playing this. Really? Spamming the thread with three posts every page?

There's also the part where he wanted all blues to claim and wanted a double lynch on Day 1, both of which are the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 19:57 GMT
#265
syllogism you have been nonstop defending Mig in IRC and evidently this thread too. You've been doing it the entire time I was arguing with Mig. The ENTIRE time. Mig pays you no attention but you keep backing him up on literally everything.

Why?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 19:58 GMT
#268
On August 03 2011 04:56 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 04:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

youre asking everyone to contribute but you aren't contributing anything except bad arguments in irc


Feel free to find someone who has contributed more than I have in the thread.

Pushing for a mass roleclaim =/= contributing.
Pushing for a double lynch Day 1 =/= contributing.
Asking loaded questions in thread instead of PMs which you say you've been doing anyway =/= contributing.
Shoving words in my mouth the entire IRC conversation =/= contributing.

I don't know what you're doing but it isn't what you normally do.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 20:00 GMT
#270
On August 03 2011 04:58 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 04:57 youngminii wrote:
syllogism you have been nonstop defending Mig in IRC and evidently this thread too. You've been doing it the entire time I was arguing with Mig. The ENTIRE time. Mig pays you no attention but you keep backing him up on literally everything.

Why?

Haha non-stop defending? The only thing I've defended him against is your awful logic

And Lucidity and DrH's apparently.

I don't get where you guys are getting the idea that a mass roleclaim AND a double lynch Day 1 is a good one, but you guys really have to cut it out.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 20:02 GMT
#271
Also, syllogism:

[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> if we go through with the plan
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> we lynch a townie
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> dayvig kills a townie
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia double stack
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> the results
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> are exactly the same
[05:47] <DoctorHelvetica> as if nothing happened and the mafia killed 2
[05:47] <syllogism> dayvig and lynch may hit mafia
[05:47] <mig__> you do realize there we could hit a mafia

MY awful logic? Seriously?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 20:03 GMT
#274
GOD NO NOT KENPACHI ANYTHING BUT KENPACHI
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#283
On August 03 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 05:12 Lucidity wrote:
YM and others:

Can you please stop going on about a mass roleclaim TO A CONFIRMED TOWNIE being a bad thing? It's getting tiresome.


Its not bad, its unrealistic.

Not only is it unrealistic, it has been the focus of the entire Day 1 discussion, which has not only stunted the amount of analysis available later on, but it is allowing scum to hide behind this stupid discussion.

Some of the scum are probably hiding, some are probably pushing the discussion forward knowing that:

A. It is a bad plan
B. It will never happen
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 21:26 GMT
#304
##Rocket Mig
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 21:28 GMT
#306
nah i was just kidding

Anyway, I'd rather Mig die than Lucidity/Varpulis. I dunno, the latter two just seem so.. Normal? While Mig is screaming "I'M SCUM".

Maybe it's just me.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 23:03 GMT
#330
i'm down for a varp lynch too

that post that lucidity just pointed out is pretty damn incriminating by itself
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#333
lynch kenpachi
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 03 2011 10:03 GMT
#361
On August 03 2011 12:42 JeeJee wrote:
actually screw it let's get the ball rolling.
anyone disagree with drazerk as a candidate?

i disagree

this is what i read from bc

"stop calling me out for not posting when the thread is inactive as fuck
...
...
drazerk is probably scum because he's inactive"

lolwut
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 12:09 GMT
#368
I'm sticking to Varp. If he flips scum then BC/JeeJee should be looked at for a weird chainsaw defence. The attack on Drazerk was a bit unnecessary and looks as if they wanted to shift attention away from Varp without attacking Lucidity. Mentioned this on IRC already but might as well post it here too.

Nothing is concrete though.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 12:25 GMT
#372
On August 03 2011 21:21 Curu wrote:
youngminii because he tunneled RoL for flimsy reasons in AA as scum and did nothing else, this game he's tunneling Mig for flimsy reasons. RoL and Mig are both players that scum would obviously fear, and a day 1 Mig lynch/Vig shot makes no sense because if he hasn't found scum by Day 2 that's a huge scumtell. His meta and trackrecord (nailing all scum in WaW2, AA, and one in PTP) are great for Town and terrible for scum.

Bad reasoning. I basically tunnel people in every game I play, scum or not.

Besides, one of my reasons for Mig being scum is along the lines of "he's a great player but he's playing shitty this game". Someone pointed out that it's too early to tell and if Mig is town then he'll catch a lot of scum, which I immediately agreed to and unvoted.

I feel bad for Mig, what a shitty meta. The guy who always kills scum, and is scum if he doesn't.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 20:21 GMT
#408
except the case against varp is nothing like redff

good one
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 21:07 GMT
#413
wtf

Munk-E you just posted a giant post-by-post analysis of Mig concluding with "I'm going to either vote for Varp or Lucid"

Now you take Lucid's post against Varp, something that's been rehashed a hundred times already, and use that to vote for him?

Clear bus imo.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 22:15 GMT
#424
lol
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 22:19 GMT
#427
On August 04 2011 07:18 ghrur wrote:
Wow, towns are getting better at Day 1. :O

or scum is getting worse
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 22:47 GMT
#435
no
that's not it at all

also, why me :<
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 03 2011 23:21 GMT
#452
On August 04 2011 08:19 Curu wrote:
Ok as I mentioned someone in my circle is Mafia because Varpulis used the EXACT same argument against redFF that I did.


taa can you shoot BC instead of JeeJee?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 04 2011 13:27 GMT
#517
I can confirm Drazerk's 'plan'. I don't know whether it's accurate or not but that was his intention behind his lurking.

In any case, kill BC.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:14 GMT
#582
On August 05 2011 07:03 Mig wrote:
I was shot btw

champion!

Nice read btw YM. SCREAMING SCUM

Why are you still going on about this? Does something I say at the beginning of Day 1 really pertain throughout the entire game? lawlawlawl whatever floats your boat

I see no harm in claiming to Mig. He's definitely not confirmed town but it's like a 90/10 gamble, considering how no one ever does batshit insane bus play afaik.

TAA is pure scum in my eyes. "I'm a Vig" LOL and the misdirection Day 1 trying to point everyone towards JeeJee instead of Varp, that's just fucking hilarious. Also, on IRC the constant "I am great, I always shoot scum, trust me trust me", really?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:15 GMT
#583
also, BC
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:21 GMT
#585
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:24 GMT
#587
On August 05 2011 10:22 Curu wrote:
I highly doubt scum TAA is dumb enough to claim Vig as he'd be caught for it immediately.

He lied. The lie was not helpful to town in any way. The lie still makes sense when looked at from a scum's perspective.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:29 GMT
#590
On August 05 2011 10:25 Curu wrote:
Makes sense how?

He did it because he wanted to pressure JeeJee into posting a defense probably. Or to see who would object.

Claiming Vig unprovoked is stupid and there's no reason Mafia would do it.

No it's not helpful as Town but it's even more unhelpful as Mafia.

He's probably GF. An early claim is 'useful' because it has more credibility than a claim when you're on the ropes.

Are you kidding me? Fakeclaiming, PUBLICALLY in a PM game, just to pressure someone? There are easier ways to pressure, and any lying done should be done in PMs.

Fakeclaiming Vig unprovoked is stupid and there's no reason Town would do it. There is, in fact, a reason scum would do it, and it is a bad one. Either way, he should die.

When does the Godfather get to pick his role, exactly?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:31 GMT
#592
On August 05 2011 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


I love that by "trying to focus fire on jeejee day 1" was actually very late into the day. Misconstrued evidence.

You also neglect to mention

If BC is green it is more than likely Jeejee is red and taa is likely green
Or if TAA is green it is more than likely jeejee is red and BC is more than likely green
Or if JeeJee flips red, TAA and BC are more than likely green.


I love that you purposely miss scenarios that are actually relevant to the argument you are trying to make.

Killing JeeJee would almost fully clear or damn two players where as killing myself or TAA doesnt fully reveal the alignment of the other two players.

Very late into the day is still during the day. Stop throwing around words to make my argument appear weaker. It still happened and you guys still tried to protect Varp.

You are absolutely aware that lynching for information comes AFTER lynching for scum. You and TAA are very likely scum in my eyes, why should I go after the information route? You are scum and you are purposely trying to weaken my argument.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#594
On August 05 2011 10:30 Curu wrote:
So what's the reason scum would do it? So that they can get caught immediately like you "caught" TAA?

It's absurdly stupid for scum to do it.

It's less stupid for town to do it. Hence, he must die.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:34 GMT
#596
On August 05 2011 10:33 Curu wrote:
Oh by the way, if JeeJee flips Godfather youngminii is our third scum:

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


Name 1 reason as scum TAA would want to fakeclaim Vig completely unprovoked. Vig is one of the most easily self confirmable roles in a setup where KP is known, only an idiot would fakeclaim that.

Are you stupid? KP is not known, this is a semi-open setup. There are an unknown number of RBs, Vets, Medics, Vigis. Stop talking out of your ass.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#600
Are you serious? There is already analysis on you, I am just adding to it. Why should I rehash something that's already been said?

You're scum, I'm not going to argue with you.

If JeeJee is GF well then fuck me, but I doubt this is the case.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#602
On August 05 2011 10:37 Curu wrote:
18 out of 21 Players are alive.
15 out 17 Town aligned players are left.
3 out of 4 Mafia team are left.
Mafia KP is #/2 rounded up.
Mafia KP now is 2.

Where Mafia KP is down. Durr.

Anything above 2 KP = oh look he was right he's a Vig. Vig is easily self confirmable. TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is beyond stupid.

LOL
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 01:40 GMT
#603
On August 05 2011 10:39 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 07:33 redFF wrote:
Here's what i think of taa.
i think taa is just cocky shitty town. he thinks he played well in arkham so now thinks he is BOSSMODE and is trying to do some retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world. Town read imo. LaL isn't good when its fairly clear its just some newbie who thinks he is hot shit.

This is what TAA is, not scum.

But TAA isn't a newbie. You are worse than TAA, sorry to say. He is a relative newcomer but based on what I've seen, he's actually a very decent player.

The newbie argument does not apply to TAA.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 05 2011 15:18 GMT
#623
This game is moving


so





slowly
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 02:19 GMT
#678
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 02:21 GMT
#679
and taa
don't forget taa
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 02:54 GMT
#685
by green i mean town, it's not that hard to work out honestly

all i see is a mob mentality where people are going after person after person
if jeejee flips red well then i'm fucked

On August 06 2011 11:34 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 11:19 youngminii wrote:
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?


You do realize no matter what he flips we're going to kill you right?
Like, how can any townie be so sure of another person's role/alignment so as to say he'll DT check green and flip green? At best, it's mafia trying to gain town cred. At worst, it's just mafia trying to protect the godfather.

when i said that
i said IF
IF
IF
IF
god some of you people..
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 03:13 GMT
#689
"If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green"

the if applies to this entire part
l2english
that is all
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#690
On August 06 2011 12:01 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 12:00 redFF wrote:
On August 06 2011 11:34 ghrur wrote:
On August 06 2011 11:19 youngminii wrote:
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?


You do realize no matter what he flips we're going to kill you right?
Like, how can any townie be so sure of another person's role/alignment so as to say he'll DT check green and flip green? At best, it's mafia trying to gain town cred. At worst, it's just mafia trying to protect the godfather.

no...

to elaborate this post seems like
"if he flips green we will mislynch again!"

nah he's just got tunnel vision on me
ignore him
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#702
On August 07 2011 02:38 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
youngminii you seem convinced that jee jee is green, care to explain?

I'm the DT and I checked him.

No wait, I'm not, I'm not a liar.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 07 2011 03:17 GMT
#760
yeah ok just vig me
clearly i'm being counter productive to town and i don't want day 3 to just be "yeah kill ym no discussion"

sorry folks, will try better next time <3
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 08 2011 04:18 GMT
#855
pretty funny

i'll just say i already know drh is a vet so i knew mig was lying about the medic claims
drh should be able to support this but he doesn't seem to remember much so idk

either way i don't care if you kill me since i've been nothing but useless to town
i still stand by taa/bc being scummy as fuck
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 08 2011 04:21 GMT
#856
basically on day 1 or sometime early on irc he pm'd and it went something like:

drh: are you medic
me: lol no wtf i'm vt
[long miscommunicated conversation because drh thought i meant VET and not Vanilla Townie but it gets cleared up]
me: you must be a vet, huh, there's no reason for you to rolefish medic from me unless you wanted to try and 'trap' me into thinking you were an important blue role
drh: yep, i'm vet
[blahblahblah]

so basically i would never have hit drh
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 10 2011 08:43 GMT
#1010
On August 10 2011 06:29 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 06:52 Curu wrote:
Translation:

youngminii the Mafia Kangaroo has been lynched.

Lol

I think of youngminii as more of a funnel-web than a kangaroo.

I like to think of myself as a Koala.
lalala
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