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Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 25 2011 19:07 GMT
#373
On July 26 2011 03:59 redFF wrote:
Yeah I think trotske is scum

##vote trotske

Reasons?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#396
On July 26 2011 07:16 Pyo wrote:
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On July 26 2011 00:13 Sevryn wrote:
Looking at Pyo's posts i think he is either scum or super lazy he has a large amount of useless posts and the abstaining from voting.
Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum.
because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now.


##Vote Ace


Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing:

If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934
I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554

Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well.

VisceraEyes next jumps in:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096
This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon.

The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660
Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971
However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL.

##vote: aprudds


This is a really strong case. aprudds was kind of flying under my radar.
Right now my top candidates for scum are
1. Ace
2. aprudds
3.Trotske
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 01:38 GMT
#397
Actually im gonna look back through the thread at aprudds
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 02:32 GMT
#399
On July 22 2011 12:32 aprudds wrote:
And yes VisceraEyes, it does look like your making stuff up and putting them in people's mouths. It's quite annoying actually, and it hasn't even happened to me yet.

On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"?


On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:
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On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.

Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered.

Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him.

Tunnels VE for like 3 posts straight
On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote:
Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. Stuff like
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i probably have more games played than everyone here combined and probably at a higher level of play. Let's try to stay away from the mud-slinging ok?

Makes me cry and laugh at the same time. You really seem to like waving your penis around eh?

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On July 22 2011 10:10 DragonReborn422 wrote:
i was a heavy post counter for werewolf games on 2+2's puzzles and other games. I'm not sure if i will continue that trend on here for mafia games.

I'm sure i will have to adjust to the play style on here. I've mostly played "vanilla games" and not "mish-mash games" which have creative roles. I have probably 100 or so vanilla games played and about 10 mish-mash games played.

I remember the first time a bunch of us played a game on mafiascum and we got into a flame war with the forum just because the style of the game is so different between forums. I am fairly elitist and think my own style is very good, but I'm ok with taking a backseat and learning the ropes on a new forum.

I will post some reads soon.


I like your style of flexing your over 9000 games played. With that many games your reads must be super awesome as well!

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On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.

FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.

You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.

I like Ace's posts.


Some deep reasoning there. I guess your scumdar is just that good from all those games you played........


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On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:
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On July 22 2011 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.

FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.

You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.

I like Ace's posts.



All right Dragon, then we dispense with the pleasantries. I'm trying to create a pro-town environment. Tell me how that's scummy if you please. Clearly you agree with lynching randomly as Ace does, and his non-answer to my question apparently doesn't bother you because you're in perfect agreement about who you'd lynch given the reins. So let me pose this question to you, because I KNOW Ace has an answer for me.

What benefit does town get from lynching a random person?


I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience.

I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.



Or not..... I guess your scumdar is pretty terrible then.


Put that penis down, your not the best player in the world and acting like it is just making you look like a fool. Your pride and indecisiveness is just going to get you hanged.

Than this post which really put me against DR.
On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:24 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I'm not waving my e-penis around. It's annoying when peopel with 8 games played calls my idea stupid. I haven't called anyone's ideas or posts stupid.

Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it.

same kind of thing attacking DR without attacking his arguments.

##unvote
##vote aprudds

I would prefer to see aprudds lynched today but ace is a good target aswell
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#410
Aprudds do you have a case on ace? I saw you posting earlier how you were trying to get him to post but besides his inactivity which I agree is scummy do you have a case?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#434
##Unvote
##Vote: Ace
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 19:07 GMT
#436
lets get some activity next day k?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 19:48 GMT
#443
what happened to playing to win ace?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 21:37 GMT
#453
Why would he give more of a shit if he was mafia?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#476
On July 27 2011 07:27 Curu wrote:
Also, if there is a DT you claim NOW and leave the results of your investigations. No DT claim is to be trusted after this Night, because if Mafia fake claims a DT and gets a mislynch out of it then Town's already lost.

yea claim at night so mafia know who to kill
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 26 2011 22:39 GMT
#483
On July 27 2011 07:33 Curu wrote:
Sevyrn, use your head for a second and think okay? Tomorrow is mylo. If you think hard enough, you can see why DT needs to claim now.

No need for the ad hominem attack man. I didn't realize it was mylo while it sucks IF we have a DT they should claim.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 27 2011 23:39 GMT
#518
On July 28 2011 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Trotske

One down. Two to go.

Care to throw that gif up on here red?

The gif you guys were talking about in your quicktopic?
##vote VisceraEyes
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 29 2011 16:50 GMT
#586
Sorry I havnt been active guys I'm at otakon this weekend I'm thinking ve or pyo atm. I think trotske is just new town
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 29 2011 17:09 GMT
#592
##vote visceraeyes
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 29 2011 20:49 GMT
#604
On July 30 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Final thought...it got awfully quiet in here once I decided to give up defending myself. Seems like someone doesn't want to disturb the done deal.

What a good way to bring that up. "Hey guys my team hasn't defended me so I'm town"
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