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Let's have a fun game and remember no foul play, nothing below the belt and Jackal needs spare timber to support all those tunnels so do help out! | ||
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Nah - if i really wanted to distract him i'd have taken him to see bridesmaids... Now there be alot of plot holes! | ||
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On July 25 2011 09:27 Drazerk wrote: well somebody failed at not making me overpowered... + Show Spoiler + I AM CAPTAIN PLANET By killing scum they no longer pollute the world so I can locate the missing planeteers to gain back my powers. 1 scum dead - Medic protection 3 scum dead - Night time KP 5 scum dead - Detective checks I can use all powers every night and if I die the sun mourns my death and prevents the next three night phases. LOL @ COMPLETE FAKERY Also det checks > night kills??? Not likely.. | ||
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On July 25 2011 09:32 Curu wrote: Clearly you have not played with Drazerk yet. He has a new fake claim at the start of every cycle. Yea it's my first time with him.. I stand by that tactic (  ) | ||
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On July 25 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote: So the content of your post is: a) let's actually not lynch liars b) I'll tunnel anyone who dares scumhunt, unless I agree with their methods/arguments. I haz been ninja'd | ||
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On July 25 2011 09:49 sandroba wrote: a) yes, unless vigs fail to shoot them. b) no, read it better and you will see. Except that: a) forcing vig shots on liars and lurkers is like saying 'who has a kill visitors role and WANTS to be shot tonight?' b) you say you'll tunnel anyone based on shoddy evidence and then say that we can't lynch liars... what kind of amazingly accurate evidence do you expect day 1? | ||
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b) you say you'll tunnel anyone that votes based on shoddy evidence and then say that we can't lynch liars... what kind of amazingly accurate evidence do you expect day 1? | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:02 OriginalName wrote: Yo Potter you gotta hook up with me we gots scum to catch and all dat shitz. Is this a post restriction or has the meaning of it just completely gone over my head? | ||
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If i had taken him to a different movie we might have wedding dresses, all sparks or green lantern rings... | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote: This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut? One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out. This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers). The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating. Thoughts? Now this is a terrible plan.... Tell the mafia EXACTLY who the power roles are... Is this your first game? | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote: Not even alternate win condition, im just vanilla until i fulfill certain conditions. Excuse me but i think you need to defend your behaviour here... You've basically outed your role name, you've outed aspects of your role and your suggesting we might mass claim... all within 90 minutes of the game commencing... Are you lying your ass off, way too casual with your information or scummy scum scum? | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:33 Curu wrote: I don't get why it helps Mafia more than Town. They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already. If a DT finds himself roleblocked all the time then we know who the roleblockers are and can narrow down the suspect. It's basically operating under full disclosure and I don't see how that benefits anti Town more than Town. @Tackster EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter? @redFF Derp read the thread, deconduo just explicitly said role claiming does not activate the penalties. Well: EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter? I didn't realise you had a role list... Last PYP i had a terrible vote effect. They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already. You imply it's negative they know possibly 5-8 roles but want to give them 25 to pick from. Mafia will know 25 roles and all of their mates. They can pick the killers, docs, checkers and predict what effects will be used against them. They can avoid wasting KP on bulletproofs. Town will know 25 roles and have to check 25 people.... Any pro-town secret mechanics (such as you can kill a mafia IF [condition]) will be void. Mass claim is a terrible plan... | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote: K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it. Sand don't give anyone the stick yet. Assuming you believe whats being said that's KP. better that KP not be in play rather than risking mafia get it. And that's only if it IS KP.. Wait for someone to check ON or some counter claims to be made. Why are people making decisions 2 hours into day 1? | ||
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Also why are people claiming 2 hours into day 1? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:54 OriginalName wrote: I can gurantee that Jackal is most certainly not Fake Claiming. as other than my slight formatting errror only the Names and the bolded line were different. VERSUS This Line was nowhere near mentioned in my PM, also It just said Each item you or Harry Collects will grant the holder a Power. slip? If it 'just' said that then why do you say the entire message with descriptions of the items was the same? | ||
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On July 25 2011 10:56 Nisani201 wrote: There is probably a Snape, and in that case we should wait the whole Harry Potter/Voldemort thing out until Snape claims. Harry and Voldy were named in the opening posts - no other characters were mentioned | ||
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Good Job town. I'm going to bed but i can't wait to see wtf is going on tomorrow. | ||
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Apart from that I was shocked to see that day kill! Days are 48 hours long - surely sandroba having a stick up his...attic... is not worth 3 roleclaims, a day shot and the beginnings of a bandwagon. Chaos13 seems to be the only one who's done any analysis as opposed to 'i just read everything so do what i say'. I myself haven't analysed much but seeing as I can't sleep i'll go back and try and generate a proper timeline of events... Everyone take a chill pill and wash it done with some methodone... | ||
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On July 25 2011 14:41 Curu wrote: @Wiggles It has nothing to do with randomization unless two people decided to make their roles together. dec stated he doesn't want any role organization plans or w/e so I think it's most certainly dec's creation. Then again I don't understand how they are exactly identical roles and the decision to place Hallows around, since Jackal claimed he has a Mason-type role and that was what ON's was too. The possibilities I see are: 1) Two people decided they wanted to put Harry/Voldy in the game and collaborated together to do so (against dec's urging not to) 2) Dec created two roles for people by himself (???) 3) Dec took two roles that were Mason roles and decided to add onto them himself I highly, highly doubt someone just decided to put it into their role to kill Harry Potter as he can't even know Harry Potter would be in the game. I'm almost certain this is dec's doing, and if so then what I am saying makes sense. You said you were all for lynching Jackal and now you're saying that jackals claim was well founded? If you believe jackals claim and agree both roles were mason how can you call jackal a 3rd party mason? | ||
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On July 25 2011 15:06 Curu wrote: And if you mean where I believed his role abilities, what are the chances that he claims some power then Voldemort flips with the exact same power? He's almost certainly telling the truth about his Mason power, and that's easily confirmable anyways. As for the thing about Voldemort, I think my post most clearly pointed out that I doubt it's legit because it doesn't make sense for any hint at player alignment to be in a role PM. My point is you believe they're both created by dec, they're both modified masons and they both are after the items. Then you say that Potter is red because Voldy was green. Or that Jackal is red because he lied about voldy 'hiding in town' yet when potter says he need to kill voldy that's just flavour text and he's really a mason. That is highly inconsistent. If they're both masons you have no reason to suspect potter of being non-green. If you think potter knew voldy was green then you MUST think voldy had an alternate win condition - but you made a big post about how he's a mason that dec invented. I'm just pointing about the inconsistency... | ||
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And by mason i meant 'can communicate with other outside the thread' not 'can convert people'. Why would you think voldemort couldn't 'mason' people - only chat to them, but then potter can convert them to another group? And what i meant by the flavour text phrase (and others have mentioned this recently) is that if you assume that when the role pm to voldy to kill harry potter that was flavour text aka ornamental bullcrap, then you also have to assume the corresponding phrase in potters pm role was ornamental or mistaken. Deconduo said everyone must post a role. Deconduo said all roles will be used. I agree that this seems to be a twin role that Dec created based on a theme. I disagree that these roles have a synergy that connects them through opposing alignment. Harry and Voldy being green is as weird as voldy being green and harry red. You haven't given me any reasons to see potter as a 3rd party, all your reasons are meta about the creation of the roles... | ||
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On July 25 2011 15:30 Curu wrote: I think your confusion comes from the definition of Mason. By Mason I mean can chat with them, not a Cult-style alignment changing. Basically I am saying Jackal can do the same thing ON could. Clear? I also did not assume Voldy's role PM to kill Harry was flavour. I said it might be, and if isn't then it doesn't make sense for Harry to be Mafia because that's a completely redundant win condition. Clear? I did not say it's weird for them to be the same alignment. I said it'd be weird of them to be Town-Mafia, and ON is certainly Town. I said it's possible they're both Town. I think Jackal is a 3rd because I think that he made up part of his role PM cause it didn't make sense to have anything hinting at alignment in his PM. Clear? #1 - Clear #2 - You can't say that given 2 choices where 1 is redundant (and therefore unviable) you haven't made your mind up. You have made your mind up. It's the non-redundant one. Therefore you do think it's flavour text. Not only do you disagree with yourself otherwise but I don't think anyone has actually treated it as a real win-condition. #3 - If you think he made up the part of his PM that was flavour in the twin voldy PM then you're disagreeing with the result of #2 which you can't cos the other result is redundant. You are disagreeing with yourself and justifying it by saying the disagreement is over 2 different things. Whether or not it was flavour text is the same as whether or not jackal lied. It's that simple. If it wasn't flavour text on voldy it's redundant. If it was flavour on voldy's then he had no reason to lie! | ||
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And by the way - I'm basically in agreement with the statement you just made. I would go so far as to say there is probably an anti-town in the group of Jackal, Heist and YM - but in general on day one i still prefer to lynch someone i can't analyse rather than someone active. | ||
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Tsk tsk tsk - does this have to be explained every time? notify us of votes here too please or i will scold you severely! | ||
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On July 25 2011 21:20 Kurumi wrote: myself so I can die as fast as I can and no my rolecheck is not a day one sorry Kurumi what's up? Need something real to go on here - if all you're going to do is post randomly you probably would increase your chances lurking. Take part or /out. Goes to all lurkers! Also mentioning lylo on day 1? is there a guinness records of mafia thread anywhere? | ||
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On July 25 2011 21:25 Kurumi wrote: no I have a plan that's why I need votes and vig shot or something nice This could be a ##Fistpound moment, this could be the beginning of the zombie invasion... Votes and a vig shot... sounds like a win condition! | ||
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Seeing as we all assumed that Voldemort would be a red or black role the mods probably wanted to point out the possibility of a green Voldemort by saying he disguised himself as town. Probably they meant to say he's converted to town or established himself as town. The Potter and Voldy roles were obviously a creation of the mods. Like they said they take a role and 'change' it. In this case they took a role and duplicated it - probably because there were 2 existing roles too alike. I believe the above to be the case. In general I am for a Jackal lynch as policy. However as this time the ONLY thing we have to go on is a disagreement over the meaning of disguised I suggest we delay in our actions until later on. There was no lie here. I suggest YM, heist and kita as possible targets. I am not feeling comfortable with a sandroba lynch. We can simply check jackal tonight. If he's town we have +1 KP, if not no losses - he's a powerless mafia, a confirmed SK or some weird 3rd party shite I hardly believe could be the case. **rant over** | ||
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YM - That vig shot was just awful and to cover yourself with 'mafia would never do this' is pure drivel Heist - You seemed too into the item game from the start and seemed to be breadcrumbing you had an item or were harry (not scummy but close to lying IMO) kita - this has been explained at length. Lurk much? | ||
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On July 25 2011 23:23 syllogism wrote: Decon claims all the roles were created by players and it would take basically a complete rewrite of one of the roles to come up with virtually identical Potter/Voldemort roles hence they just duplicated a role rather than modified an existing one | ||
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Well in that case I think the matter should be closed. Syllo while we're chatting can you give me your opinions on my FoSes? | ||
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On July 25 2011 23:37 syllogism wrote: My vote is already on Kita so not going to elaborate on that again. YM's actions make perfect sense for mafia as I already noted earlier, but I'm not quite seeing the same when I look at his post history. Heist's post history is fluff and him pushing for jackal lynch, which is something consider a mafia objective. However once again the post explaining his logic doesn't appear scummy, despite the logic being flawed. Kita is still currently my pick out of the three. Ok i know i sound like GMarshall here but in the interest of keeping the hunt active who are your top 3 town? | ||
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On July 25 2011 23:53 Palmar wrote: Why would he give you town reads? Are you trying to figure out who you should shoot tonight? So you're saying we shouldn't make lists of peoples analysis to compare with their play later? | ||
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Palmar I apologise for earlier - we might yet get lylo tomorrow.. | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:15 syllogism wrote: Newsflash to vigs: days have 48 hours and even if you are somehow a compulsive day vig, there is no reason to shoot early and when there has been little to no discussion about the target ^ | | | THIS p.s. Why syllogism? I'd probably have picked tautology... | ||
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Kitaman Jackal heist sandroba YM (dead) If Jackal is mafia this is an EXTREME wifom... But if Kita is mafia this is stupid too. It has to be a stupid shot whether or not we did it or maf did it.. Did YM mention who he was going to check tonight? | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:27 syllogism wrote: Hey, no need to make fun of my English. It's a bad habit when writing online and in a hurry I wasn't making fun of you - i meant i'd pick tautology to describe ME | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:28 Palmar wrote: I was talking about just now, I specifically asked he be day-vigged, so I have no idea why someone thought shooting ym was a better idea. *ominous thunder* What if the shot was.... PENALISED!!!!!! | ||
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You do realise that leads us to a confirmed scum pretty much right? | ||
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On July 26 2011 01:02 deconduo wrote: On July 26 2011 01:01 Kurumi wrote: Amber did You play Blacksmith in hon? It could come in handy you know. NERD | ||
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/Goodbye | ||
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On July 26 2011 01:45 syllogism wrote: He had to use his ability today as his role changes daily  | ||
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