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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:20 GMT
#665
*fucks for kicks should read just for kicks lol
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:21 GMT
#667
I already want to lynch kita. Aligment checking him is just a bonus.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:30 GMT
#676
On July 26 2011 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 05:19 sandroba wrote:
BC, do you have any doubts that his power is an aligment check? Do you think DropBear is lying and got a penalty on purpose just to out his own teamate and also endangered him of being lynch fucks for kicks? No. They can't both be mafia, so his role does indeed provide an aligment check and that's it. I'm not giving it the freedom so whoever wants to be checked can do it. I'm asking for a check on kita. If he fails to comply we lynch him. That simple. Even if supersoft is scum how does an aligment check helps him? It does not, it can only have potencial of helping us if he's town. Also if someone flips and he said his aligment wrong, there we got him. What's the downside to this?


if he is red, all checks reveal town maybe sks reveal third party. He just wouldn't out his team. So your idea of reversing all his checks is dumb, its not even guarenteed a red is ever checked by his alignment as they would have no need to participate.

Also, lynching a player based on not participating in a plan that cannot be confirmed without other players using powers / the user of said original power dying is dumb. Kita asked questions, perhaps that is a posting restriction.

Foolishness is using a ton of TLPD in his posts, perhaps that is his posting restriction.

We also have players who were using day vig powers. We have players who on day 1 were calling for people to use day vig powers. We have enough scummy, suspect play on day 1 already. How about we sit back and play normally instead of hoping our trust is rewarded. Luck should not be a factor in how we proceed if its not backed by solid analysis or very very very solidly made plan that has a near 0% chance of failure.


Are you allowed to claim your post restriction BC? Because this is getting annoying. Where did I sugest we reverse his checks? Also how do you propose we do analysis when *anything* can be a post restriction acording to you? I'm done arguing with you, you don't make any sense.


sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:42 GMT
#688
It is stated in the OP that post restrictions are not allowed. Does that rule stand?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:56 GMT
#706
@heist hmm dunno about giving jackal the stone. In a game with so many roles and 3rd party, mafia can benefit from a medic as much as town. For now don't give jackal anything.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#712
Who is to say we have to trust his check BC??? We can still lynch kita regardless. That doesn't mean shit. But if he says kita is red we kill kita on the spot. If kita flips green we kill SS. SS being confirmed has nothing to do with this.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:01 GMT
#714
@Wiggles I was under the impression penalties are not revealed to us and not even the player who aquired them except when they really come into play.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:05 GMT
#718
@foolishness do you have anything to say on the matter? I assume you want a check on kita, is that right?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#727
The thing is, apparently most of the town is not convinced kita is scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#733
??? Because I actually don't think he's scum, based on behaviour. Also we know jackal's role (useless unless he has items) and kita has the potencial to have a good scum role. Where is your analysis that indicates jackal is scum? I like kita as scum much better.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:30 GMT
#737
If you can actually convince these people that kita is scum, then alright. And if we are not checking kita I propose a check on chaos13 instead of wiggles. He does not strike me as scum this game, and I usually have a good read on him.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:38 GMT
#747
Yes, I asked for people to claim the Tim role. Then I asked for SS to kill whoever shot YM and it gave us dead scum. How is that bad? Also I can see jackal's reasoning for claiming in that situation. It's null at best for me, it does not indicate that jackal is scum, because he could do the same thing as either aligment. In the mean time you have kita. He's not just asking questions. He's pushing suspicion on people that he doesn't even think are scum. There is no reason to do that as town, thus he must be scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:45 GMT
#755
On July 26 2011 06:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:38 sandroba wrote:
Yes, I asked for people to claim the Tim role. Then I asked for SS to kill whoever shot YM and it gave us dead scum. How is that bad? Also I can see jackal's reasoning for claiming in that situation. It's null at best for me, it does not indicate that jackal is scum, because he could do the same thing as either aligment. In the mean time you have kita. He's not just asking questions. He's pushing suspicion on people that he doesn't even think are scum. There is no reason to do that as town, thus he must be scum.


Why would jackal have to claim? People know harry potter lore. Voldy is always evil. People would have been hesitant to actually trust him. Except you apparently?

he could have pm'd people using his mason ability and the like and found stuff that way. He opted to day 1 RC. Maybe he was scared, who knows, but it created a situation of chaos not helped get us back on serious track.


And thus he must be mafia??? Why are you even voting for him? Why is he a better lynch than kita?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 21:52 GMT
#760
Let me say this. There is no advantage in NOT using the check. He is most likely town and will most likely end up dead at night. He wants to check you BC, why don't you oblige?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:00 GMT
#770
BC, I don't care if you do or don't get shot at night. You apparently don't like your role so your job as townie is to get shot for the greater good. To survive is mafia/sk job. Town only cares about not getting lynched. Maybe if you get a green result in return you will atract both a shot and a medic tonight and help us even further.

Anyway I still prefer a check on kita, on the off chance BC is being stubborn.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#776
If you are being yourself right now gogo handicap! =P How about that check?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:32 GMT
#795
BC, let's assume ss is scum. How does an aligment check benefits him?
Also, you don't seem conviced Kita is scum. Would you oppose a aligment check on him?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#803
No. If he's alive and not getting shot after a few cycles in the game we simply lynch him. Most of the evidence actually points to him being town. Assuming otherwise by default and rendering him useless while he could be a good asset for town and will probably be killed sooner or later is just foolish. Even if he's mafia forcing him to give us info (lies or not) is a good thing for town. We have plenty of ways of dealing with this in the future. I'm not saying everyone should trust every single thing he says, but preventing him from acting is in no way shape or form optimal play. You are assuming everyone is stupid to justify non-optimal play and that's just wrong.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:43 GMT
#804
@heist man seriously fuck this stone deal. Let's discuss this at night shall we?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 22:55 GMT
#808
Also, you realise that if we don't force people to take his check he will never check a red ever again.
No red will ever submit to quoting him willingly.
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