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On July 13 2011 01:08 Kurumi wrote:
Also Radfield.. On the page 5 You said You'll announce who sold You the BP vest, but on this page You say we shouldn't announce contracts at all. It's a contradiction.
It really depends on the scenario for gaining the item.
I think the system should go something like this,
Do I think the Item is boobied?
If yes - Announce the damned contract
if no - Keep it to yourself.
Otherwise if your really scared about secrecy or weather its announced or not just write it in the contract that said person will announce that he has completed it with another player.
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Can you just ask the other party to include full description of the item in the contract and once LSB banking gets the item, it will see if it matches said description? If the description doesn't match, the contract terminates automatically and items are returned. Should ask LSB to clarify if that's possible
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On July 13 2011 00:36 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 22:42 chaos13 wrote:On July 12 2011 19:25 Radfield wrote:Lets get down to brass tax: Who's selling me a bulletproof vest? I may be in the market to buy up some votes for Day 1, PM me if interested. But most importantly: Who wants to sell me an RPGIt's vitally important that I shoot someone with an RPG this game in order to maximize fun  So you're looking to buy votes on Day 1, the time in the game that it is least likely we will lynch scum. You also want an RPG, which provides you with additional means of killing someone, which also does not guarantee you will kill scum. Noted, you're going down on my suspect list. yeah, I was trying to see if anyone would bite by offering to sell me their vote. It would peg them either as scum or as someone with a cash ability. In retrospect it was probably a bit too transparent. As far as an RPG, it provides me with a means of killing someone, not an additional means. I play a patient, thoughtful style of mafia and have no intention of firing at the first player who pops on my scumdar. I am also fairly decent at finding reds, though I'll admit that I'm somewhat weak when it comes to PM games, which I don't normally join. Show nested quote +As an advertisement to business, I have defensive weapons to sell. If you are interested, PM me. This seems like a risky thing to be posting in public. Surely it makes far more sense for you to be PMing players you have pro-town reads on rather than letting everyone know.
Smells like role fishing to me.
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I doubt that's possible :-)
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Nah, I was responding to syllo's attempt at breaking the game.
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Will the violator of said breaching item be punished if the other party dies before he can file a complaint? LSB banking will at least know the transferred item didn't match the contract terms
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Oh I suppose you could include a contract term that stipulates the other party will be found to be in breach of contract if the party who receives the item dies before the end of the night. Remember, contracts are fulfilled at the end of the day, so at least there won't be night kills messing up with that.
Then you would have time to file for a breach before night ends, or if you die the other party will be punished.
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I'm pretty sure LSB Banking can tell the identity of an object, but is unable to tell anything about the condition of that object.
If someone gives you a bulletproof vest, LSB will know it's a bulletproof vest, but is unable to tell if it's super powerful, broken, booby trapped etc. So you can't say to someone you're giving him a bulletproof vest, but really you're just giving him a gun, a flower, a book or a goddamn RPG.
Anyway, stop trying to find holes in the rules and go play mafia.
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Guys, are we going for inactive lynch or scummiest person lynch Day 1?
Also Radfield smells worse and worse for me..
PM trap without good enough skills (thanks Palmar)
Role fishing (thanks Jackal58)
Contradiction about BP (possible trap for future?)
Wanted to buy:
BP
Votes (said it was a trap)
RPG
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Also, I'm pretty sure you can't include punishments in the contracts, especially something like mod-kills. That'd be stupid. If either party breaches the contract, then I'd simply assume the contract is considered invalid.
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"Indeed, and there are no limits on the contracts" Perhaps the contract can stipulate that LSB banking makes the violation public.
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These aren't holes in the rules, figuring out contracts that benefit your team is a very important aspect of the game, as suggested by that quote about there being no limitations
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On July 13 2011 01:50 Kurumi wrote:
Guys, are we going for inactive lynch or scummiest person lynch Day 1?
Also Radfield smells worse and worse for me..
PM trap without good enough skills (thanks Palmar)
Role fishing (thanks Jackal58)
Contradiction about BP (possible trap for future?)
Wanted to buy:
BP
Votes (said it was a trap)
RPG
I don't like lynching Radfield day 1, hes generally a very good player as such hes been killed N1 of alot of games recently (PYPI was the exception as he picked bulletproof) for good reason.
PM trap without good enough skills (thanks Palmar)
This is stupid, just because he says hes not good at PM games doesnt mean it takes alot of skill to lay a pm trap. Its just knowing how to play mafia in a reasonable manner, revealing it was a trap in my opinion was the only silly move he did there.
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Also he could be lying about said pm skills to avoid scum shooting by appearing meeker.
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I also am not sure about Radfield... however he seems like a good lynch to me. Unless a better lynch pops up then we probably should stay on him. A lurker lynch is not a good idea because they always end up being town, and every Townie matters when we're in a quantity battles with the Mafia in the later game (as Kurumi so nicely pointed out earlier in the thread).
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GMarshal's First Post
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Did that get your attention? Good.
A few ground rules.
1.) You will absolutely never, ever, for any reason sell ANY kp or kp modifiers you may possess. Anyone trading in weapons or kp of *any* sort is to be deemed scum or a traitor to the town and executed. Remember the only confirmed townie you know is *you* if you start selling RPG's chances are you are giving them to the MAFIA. That's partially how Merc Mini was lost, mafia ended up holding KP the town had sold them.
2.) Do not sell or trade your vote. Votes are our only tool to really kill mafia, by selling your vote to anyone you are sabotaging the town's chances at victory and giving someone who's alignment you don't know a better chance at victory. We do not trade votes.
3.) Money is power. Don't give it away unless you have a good reason to. "I want to see GMarshal post : 'I'm a baboon' 15 times" is not a good reason to spend money. Some powers like the defense contract in the previous merc mafia are cash dependent, by giving away resources without a good reason you might be giving someone who is not town aligned an ability.
4.) On publicizing contracts. This is entirely situational. Do it if it looks like a trap. Don't if you think its going to catch scum. I leave it up to your judgment. BP vests and grenades are probably booby-trapped.
5.) On PM traps. Make sure the damn thing is actually a *trap*, not a "slight blue slip" but something that will actually carry weight, not what happened to RoL in XLII.
LSB, can I make an escrow account with LSB Bot that will hold all my PM's until I die and then publish them in the thread? Obviously its my responsibility to make sure LSB bot *has* the PM's but is it doable?
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OH and last one. Trust no one in PM's, I mean it. NO ONE.
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Hello everyone. I don't like the post above one bit. Lynching a lurker is about 27 times better than lynching rad day 1 and you say you are not sure, but he seems like a good lynch? Huh? How does that make any sense?
Also kurumi is suspicious for being a try hard, but saying nothing useful. Nisani for the above post AND for suporting kurumi.
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EBWOP: ninja'ed, I was refering to nisani's post.
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