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On July 30 2011 22:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 21:38 youngminii wrote:On July 30 2011 20:25 Palmar wrote:On July 30 2011 19:15 youngminii wrote: so umm palmar i can't believe you lost that after directing town for so long and killing so many scum you lost
should've sided with scum man, you would've won so easily
as for me i am straight up changing the way i play, i tried to stay in line with my town meta (while advancing my own goals, kinda like what rol said) but it's just destructive both to me and my team i should make myself a post restriction in my next game lol I never had a chance, and after you outed me in the thread, I decided to just kill the remaining scum. Sooner or later batman would've tried a shot at me. i can't believe the batman didn't shoot you earlier Me neither, like why the hell not just take the chance.
If iw as batman you would have been dead before you got your role PM. Obv, BC made a mistake when he rigged the roles to give me batman.
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On July 30 2011 22:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 21:38 youngminii wrote:On July 30 2011 20:25 Palmar wrote:On July 30 2011 19:15 youngminii wrote: so umm palmar i can't believe you lost that after directing town for so long and killing so many scum you lost
should've sided with scum man, you would've won so easily
as for me i am straight up changing the way i play, i tried to stay in line with my town meta (while advancing my own goals, kinda like what rol said) but it's just destructive both to me and my team i should make myself a post restriction in my next game lol I never had a chance, and after you outed me in the thread, I decided to just kill the remaining scum. Sooner or later batman would've tried a shot at me. i can't believe the batman didn't shoot you earlier Me neither, like why the hell not just take the chance.
If I was third party, I would have won so bad, haha. Thought you were way off on Day 1, and then ended up shooting Decon too. <3
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well, it wouldn't have mattered if I was actually a third party that had any chance of winning.
if I was ra'as I'd have destroyed this game, town never would've lynched me till I shot batman
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The whole medic thing screwed me over, if I had know that was the setup I would have stayed quiet
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Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.
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On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.
definitely not, unless some asshole adds a role whose sole purpose is to one-shot the SK
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On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.
easy for you to say, arn't you the only one whos won as a SK?
If batman had not found Palmar out, me and him could have worked together for a while. could have takin out the vets and whatnot. We both had aces in the hole. For me, as long as batman was still alive, I could hope that at some point batman would kill him. And he could have bused me as soon as my KP was not needed/ or wanted some town cred. A long shot, but could have worked imo.
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On July 31 2011 03:02 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible. easy for you to say, arn't you the only one whos won as a SK? If batman had not found Palmar out, me and him could have worked together for a while. could have takin out the vets and whatnot. We both had aces in the hole. For me, as long as batman was still alive, I could hope that at some point batman would kill him. And he could have bused me as soon as my KP was not needed/ or wanted some town cred. A long shot, but could have worked imo.
I think Decon might've.
I won as an SK, but I wouldn't really count it, as it was a theme game with heavily modified rules (Survivor mafia). Also a good example of how clues can be manipulated and how I love WIFOM.
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like, I was in a pretty solid situation, I'd even have been able to win as a traditional SK, but not with another guy whose sole mission was to kill me.
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On July 31 2011 01:17 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 01:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:GG, why didnt that medic protect me You and draz were too busy protecting palmar lol i would have protected notasmurf, but he seemed terrible to me. I didnt knew about his pm circle etc and as far as i knew he hardly played at all. Who was notasmurf anyway?
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On July 31 2011 07:01 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 01:17 Mig wrote:On July 31 2011 01:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:GG, why didnt that medic protect me You and draz were too busy protecting palmar lol i would have protected notasmurf, but he seemed terrible to me. I didnt knew about his pm circle etc and as far as i knew he hardly played at all. Who was notasmurf anyway? Bill Verflamewheeler
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I told some people who notasmurf was, cause I forgot he PM'd me for LAL who he actually was and thought it had been stated publicly before.
Sorry you!
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Were the clues given/explained post-game and I missed it?
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I'm interested to know what they were as well. I didn't get them and I knew who Mafia killed t_t
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The clues were pointing to insane inmates until they died (they defiled the bodies or something like that) and were fairly simple (all/most of them were directly related to the name, for instance Visceral -> chest torn open). Since two insane inmates were basically outed day 1, the clues that pointed to players rather than the character doing the deed were worthless as I doubt anyone would consider the possibility.
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On August 02 2011 02:56 syllogism wrote: The clues were pointing to insane inmates until they died (they defiled the bodies or something like that) and were fairly simple (all/most of them were directly related to the name, for instance Visceral -> chest torn open). Since two insane inmates were basically outed day 1, the clues that pointed to players rather than the character doing the deed were worthless as I doubt anyone would consider the possibility.
This is correct. As the only "role related way" to find a II were dt's and the only dt like role in the game was batman, I had to create a balance mechanic that would make the II's useful to mafia even if they could not find them. Ghrur was never used in clues, just VE and CB. The clues were extremely easy.
To make up for the easiness of the clues, I then opted to imply which role made what hit, or at least which alignment as to throw people off the easy trail. The general mistake players made while looking at the clues day 2 was assuming VE and CB were both legit with their claims and opted to never consider them for clues.
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So was creamy butter the slippery substance?
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Huh. So i guess it was a really good thing we ignored clues then? I mean, lynching an II is just as bad as lynching town until we get near lylo.
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On August 02 2011 03:56 Kavdragon wrote: Huh. So i guess it was a really good thing we ignored clues then? I mean, lynching an II is just as bad as lynching town until we get near lylo.
Originally I was going to have the game required to kill all II's for town to win as well. The issue to this was during the end period of the game, mafia had next to no contact with their II's nor were the II's active enough to control a thread with confirmed town members.
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I talked to BC about it.
Basically, having a vigilante + 2 vets, and mafia with 0 kp left, was unwinnable.
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