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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 30 2011 17:32 GMT
#2281
On July 30 2011 22:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 21:38 youngminii wrote:
On July 30 2011 20:25 Palmar wrote:
On July 30 2011 19:15 youngminii wrote:
so umm
palmar i can't believe you lost that
after directing town for so long
and killing so many scum
you lost

should've sided with scum man, you would've won so easily

as for me
i am straight up changing the way i play, i tried to stay in line with my town meta (while advancing my own goals, kinda like what rol said) but it's just destructive both to me and my team
i should make myself a post restriction in my next game lol


I never had a chance, and after you outed me in the thread, I decided to just kill the remaining scum. Sooner or later batman would've tried a shot at me.

i can't believe the batman didn't shoot you earlier


Me neither, like why the hell not just take the chance.


If iw as batman you would have been dead before you got your role PM. Obv, BC made a mistake when he rigged the roles to give me batman.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 30 2011 17:42 GMT
#2282
On July 30 2011 22:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 21:38 youngminii wrote:
On July 30 2011 20:25 Palmar wrote:
On July 30 2011 19:15 youngminii wrote:
so umm
palmar i can't believe you lost that
after directing town for so long
and killing so many scum
you lost

should've sided with scum man, you would've won so easily

as for me
i am straight up changing the way i play, i tried to stay in line with my town meta (while advancing my own goals, kinda like what rol said) but it's just destructive both to me and my team
i should make myself a post restriction in my next game lol


I never had a chance, and after you outed me in the thread, I decided to just kill the remaining scum. Sooner or later batman would've tried a shot at me.

i can't believe the batman didn't shoot you earlier


Me neither, like why the hell not just take the chance.


If I was third party, I would have won so bad, haha. Thought you were way off on Day 1, and then ended up shooting Decon too. <3
you gotta dance
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 30 2011 17:44 GMT
#2283
well, it wouldn't have mattered if I was actually a third party that had any chance of winning.

if I was ra'as I'd have destroyed this game, town never would've lynched me till I shot batman
Computer says mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 30 2011 17:50 GMT
#2284
The whole medic thing screwed me over, if I had know that was the setup I would have stayed quiet
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 30 2011 17:56 GMT
#2285
Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.
you gotta dance
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 30 2011 17:58 GMT
#2286
On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.


definitely not, unless some asshole adds a role whose sole purpose is to one-shot the SK
Computer says mafia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 30 2011 18:02 GMT
#2287
On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.


easy for you to say, arn't you the only one whos won as a SK?

If batman had not found Palmar out, me and him could have worked together for a while. could have takin out the vets and whatnot. We both had aces in the hole. For me, as long as batman was still alive, I could hope that at some point batman would kill him. And he could have bused me as soon as my KP was not needed/ or wanted some town cred. A long shot, but could have worked imo.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 30 2011 18:25 GMT
#2288
On July 31 2011 03:02 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 02:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Meh, SKs are hard to win with, but I don't think it's impossible.


easy for you to say, arn't you the only one whos won as a SK?

If batman had not found Palmar out, me and him could have worked together for a while. could have takin out the vets and whatnot. We both had aces in the hole. For me, as long as batman was still alive, I could hope that at some point batman would kill him. And he could have bused me as soon as my KP was not needed/ or wanted some town cred. A long shot, but could have worked imo.


I think Decon might've.

I won as an SK, but I wouldn't really count it, as it was a theme game with heavily modified rules (Survivor mafia). Also a good example of how clues can be manipulated and how I love WIFOM.
you gotta dance
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 30 2011 18:37 GMT
#2289
like, I was in a pretty solid situation, I'd even have been able to win as a traditional SK, but not with another guy whose sole mission was to kill me.
Computer says mafia
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 30 2011 22:01 GMT
#2290
On July 31 2011 01:17 Mig wrote:
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On July 31 2011 01:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
GG, why didnt that medic protect me


You and draz were too busy protecting palmar lol

i would have protected notasmurf, but he seemed terrible to me. I didnt knew about his pm circle etc and as far as i knew he hardly played at all. Who was notasmurf anyway?
dr Helvetica <3
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 30 2011 22:03 GMT
#2291
On July 31 2011 07:01 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 01:17 Mig wrote:
On July 31 2011 01:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
GG, why didnt that medic protect me


You and draz were too busy protecting palmar lol

i would have protected notasmurf, but he seemed terrible to me. I didnt knew about his pm circle etc and as far as i knew he hardly played at all. Who was notasmurf anyway?

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 30 2011 23:52 GMT
#2292
I told some people who notasmurf was, cause I forgot he PM'd me for LAL who he actually was and thought it had been stated publicly before.

Sorry you!
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
July 31 2011 22:45 GMT
#2293
Were the clues given/explained post-game and I missed it?
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
August 01 2011 17:07 GMT
#2294
I'm interested to know what they were as well. I didn't get them and I knew who Mafia killed t_t
Valar Morghulis
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:56:39
August 01 2011 17:56 GMT
#2295
The clues were pointing to insane inmates until they died (they defiled the bodies or something like that) and were fairly simple (all/most of them were directly related to the name, for instance Visceral -> chest torn open). Since two insane inmates were basically outed day 1, the clues that pointed to players rather than the character doing the deed were worthless as I doubt anyone would consider the possibility.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 17:59 GMT
#2296
On August 02 2011 02:56 syllogism wrote:
The clues were pointing to insane inmates until they died (they defiled the bodies or something like that) and were fairly simple (all/most of them were directly related to the name, for instance Visceral -> chest torn open). Since two insane inmates were basically outed day 1, the clues that pointed to players rather than the character doing the deed were worthless as I doubt anyone would consider the possibility.


This is correct. As the only "role related way" to find a II were dt's and the only dt like role in the game was batman, I had to create a balance mechanic that would make the II's useful to mafia even if they could not find them. Ghrur was never used in clues, just VE and CB. The clues were extremely easy.

To make up for the easiness of the clues, I then opted to imply which role made what hit, or at least which alignment as to throw people off the easy trail. The general mistake players made while looking at the clues day 2 was assuming VE and CB were both legit with their claims and opted to never consider them for clues.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 01 2011 18:37 GMT
#2297
So was creamy butter the slippery substance?
you gotta dance
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
August 01 2011 18:56 GMT
#2298
Huh. So i guess it was a really good thing we ignored clues then? I mean, lynching an II is just as bad as lynching town until we get near lylo.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 19:00 GMT
#2299
On August 02 2011 03:56 Kavdragon wrote:
Huh. So i guess it was a really good thing we ignored clues then? I mean, lynching an II is just as bad as lynching town until we get near lylo.


Originally I was going to have the game required to kill all II's for town to win as well. The issue to this was during the end period of the game, mafia had next to no contact with their II's nor were the II's active enough to control a thread with confirmed town members.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 01 2011 19:02 GMT
#2300
I talked to BC about it.

Basically, having a vigilante + 2 vets, and mafia with 0 kp left, was unwinnable.
Computer says mafia
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