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The clue was, in that post, I misspelled namely, by adding an extra letter. I thought I was going to get shot by a third party, so I left that for someone who likes clues to decrypt, because I would have my character name revealed, and the word namely misspelled so it looked off. I was actually scared that someone would catch on before hand and just try to put all the names into it. :p PMs, if anyone still cares: + Show Spoiler + [13:37] <VisceraEyes> There you have it. Your word vs mine and you win cause you're vet. Since you're town imo now, I can clarify some of my reads with you. And if I get lynched, you can bring them up once I'm confirmed. K? [13:38] <MrWiggles> hmmm? You're saying you're town now? [13:38] <VisceraEyes> Of course [13:38] <VisceraEyes> Obviously I wouldn't REALLY out myself if I was scum...ESPECIALLY alone scum, amirite? [13:39] <MrWiggles> maybe [13:42] <MrWiggles> If you're town, and have reads and analysis, why not just post them in the thread? [13:43] <VisceraEyes> I intend to. [15:14] <Palmar> you derp [15:42] <MrWiggles> hmmmmm? [15:43] <Palmar> you scum? [15:45] <MrWiggles> No, you? [15:47] <Palmar> hmm [15:47] <Palmar> no [15:47] <Palmar> you're a lucky scummer [15:47] <MrWiggles> ? [15:47] <Palmar> post blanket statements and advice how to play [15:47] <Palmar> disappear [15:47] <Palmar> some idiot claims scum to you [15:48] <Palmar> reappear [15:48] <Palmar> ta-da [15:48] <Palmar> day 1 [15:48] <Palmar> never commit to anything, gain town cred [15:48] <Palmar> good job [15:48] <Palmar> well played. [15:49] <MrWiggles> alright [15:49] <MrWiggles> so, you've been acting off in this game, any particular reason why? [15:49] <Palmar> define off [15:49] <MrWiggles> Not like your usual self [15:50] <Palmar> what's my usual self? [15:50] <MrWiggles> You've been less aggressive, playing more safely, acting more defensive, etc. [15:50] <Palmar> ah [15:51] <Palmar> in that case, cause I felt like it. [15:51] <Palmar> So [15:51] <Palmar> where do we go from here? [15:52] <Palmar> who is scum? [15:52] <MrWiggles> Well, I've noticed it, mig's noticed it, syllo's noticed it, VE noticed it, and Jackal noticed it too. I personally feel like it's third party, maaaaybe blue [15:52] <MrWiggles> from who? [15:52] <Palmar> yeah it's ok [15:53] <Palmar> like, until I actually think you're town, I don't see much reason in trying to convince you I'm not scum [15:53] <Palmar> like, my actions will speak for themselves later [15:53] <MrWiggles> later's not that great, if I think you're scum now, haha [15:53] <Palmar> yeah [15:54] <Palmar> but like, I think youngminii is scum [15:54] <Palmar> and I think you might be [15:54] <Palmar> but [15:54] <Palmar> I can't build cases against you now [15:54] <Palmar> so [15:54] <Palmar> why spam the thread [15:54] <MrWiggles> Hmmm, YM is playing pretty safe. I'm also looking at Decon, who is playing like in WaW2, and Kav, who seems to be playing oddly as well [15:55] <Palmar> yes [15:55] <Palmar> I agree with deconduo [15:55] <Palmar> he quoted a bunch of posts and said "this good" and then some other bunch and said "this bad" [15:55] <Palmar> he has contributed nothing [15:55] <Palmar> dunnoh about kav yet [15:56] <Palmar> maybe if he actually posted [15:56] <Palmar> I'd have a read [15:56] <Palmar> you think syllo is town? [15:56] <MrWiggles> Yeah, Kav isn't playing very actively, which isn't enough to call him scum, but then he says things like: "Things don't add up no matter how I look at it. It's like Sinani in SNMM3. I was totally convinced he was scum, and it turns out he was a vet. He still played really badly and defended himself horribly, but in the end he was town. In any case I'm not going to defend him in thread because I want to see his reaction to Curu's tunneling." In private [15:56] <Palmar> yep [15:56] <Palmar> he's making pm contacts [15:56] <MrWiggles> which basically says: "I think this guy is town, and if he flips town you'll know that I opposed it, but I'm not actually going to reveal it to the thread" [15:57] <MrWiggles> Dunno about syllo [15:57] <Palmar> I think syllo is town [15:57] <Palmar> why don't you? [15:57] <MrWiggles> I haven't talked to him much besides just third parties [15:57] <MrWiggles> don't have scum read on him [15:57] <MrWiggles> just not super strong town [15:57] <Palmar> he's following his meta [15:57] <Palmar> of thinking I'm scum [15:57] <MrWiggles> lolol [15:58] <Palmar> VE wasn't doing that [15:58] <Palmar> so VE was definitely scum [15:58] <Palmar> pyo [15:58] <Palmar> do you like my case? [15:58] <MrWiggles> lemme re-read it [15:58] <Palmar> ah, you don't actually read the thread? nice to know. [15:58] <MrWiggles> I do [15:59] <Palmar> page 34 [15:59] <MrWiggles> I've read everything in there, just don't remember the details of the case [15:59] <Palmar> I think he'd be our best lynch/shot [15:59] <Palmar> aside from of course mr. derp [16:01] <MrWiggles> He's focusing very hard on remaining neutral and safe [16:02] <Palmar> supersoft [16:02] <Palmar> do you think he's scum? [16:02] <MrWiggles> Not sure, I think he might just be an idiot [16:02] <Palmar> well, I can first tell you that I don't [16:02] <Palmar> oh [16:02] <Palmar> yeah [16:02] <Palmar> he sent me this pm after I posted the case on pyo [16:03] <Palmar> This is a really good analysis. I like it. I know Pyo. He played in all my Mafia games I played before and you are right. This behavior of him is extremely different. He was a scary townie to play against. And now he is not as sharp as in his games before. I don't want to screw your good case by supporting it right now, because many people don't trust me right now. [16:03] <Palmar> If I get hang you may use this PM to support your case tomorrow. [16:03] <Palmar> sup. [16:03] <Palmar> he later posted it in the thread. [16:03] <Palmar> I don't think mafia would bother with this [16:03] <MrWiggles> yeah [16:03] <Palmar> especially as at the time it was very likely he'd die anyway [16:04] <MrWiggles> also, mafia would be very willing to support any case, if it meant a chance to not get lynched [16:04] <Palmar> LSB agreed with me btw, so he's probably scum [16:04] <MrWiggles> What do you mean LSB agreed with you? [16:05] <Palmar> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10363672 [16:06] <Palmar> I find that post rather... underwhelming [16:06] <Palmar> for someone who thinks he needs to smurf to get away from his meta [16:06] <MrWiggles> Oh, is notasmurf LSB? [16:06] <Palmar> I don't know [16:06] <Palmar> just a guess [16:06] <MrWiggles> Thought it might have been one of Incognito/Ver/Foolishness, etc. [16:07] <Palmar> yes [16:07] <Palmar> I tought that initially [16:07] <Palmar> but slowly he's been downgraded to lsb [16:07] <MrWiggles> lol [16:07] <Palmar> through shitty posting and bad play [16:07] <MrWiggles> what do you think of RedFF? [16:08] <Palmar> scummeryscum [16:10] <Palmar> here's my logic [16:10] <Palmar> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10360022 [16:10] <MrWiggles> yeah, basically [16:11] <MrWiggles> As town, there isn't really a reason to defend him, especially that early in the game [16:11] <Palmar> well sure there is [16:11] <Palmar> but only if your defense consists of some content [16:11] <Palmar> that's the difference [16:11] <MrWiggles> mhmm [16:11] <Palmar> like now I'd be willing to defend him [16:11] <Palmar> but that's based on later revealings [16:11] <MrWiggles> Now yes, that's why I said so early [16:11] <Palmar> for example the pm I pasted, etc. [16:12] <Palmar> usually it's not a question of "what" but "how" [16:12] <Palmar> which is why I'm kind of irked by you [16:12] <Palmar> you see, I don't fault you for suspecting me, half the town always thinks I'm scum [16:12] <Palmar> but [16:12] <Palmar> it's how and why that makes me think you're not properly following the thread. [16:13] <MrWiggles> What do you mean? [16:13] <Palmar> you see, syllo also thinks I'm scummy, which is interesting [16:14] <Palmar> but he hasn't called out things that are blatantly wrong [16:14] <Palmar> so I think he's actually looking correctly, while his conclusion is wrong [16:14] <Palmar> also, he agrees with most of my scumlist [16:15] <Palmar> you, however call me out on the one thing that simply is false, that I'm not being aggressive (I built the case on both CB and Pyo, and I called redFF out on his defens and was the first one to point out supersoft's lie) [16:15] <Palmar> it's a pretty neat way to scumhunt [16:16] <MrWiggles> Well, the agressiveness is more the feeling of mig et al [16:16] <Palmar> and now you're trying to tell me your opinions aren't your own? [16:16] <MrWiggles> But, when you PMed me, you seemed very defensive and angry [16:16] <MrWiggles> which looked really weird [16:17] <MrWiggles> like you didn't want to be brought up in the thread [16:17] <Palmar> well would've been kinda hypocritical [16:17] <Palmar> as I just called you out [16:17] <Palmar> for focusing too much on yourself [16:17] <Palmar> I think you are a bit... self aware [16:17] <Palmar> but [16:17] <Palmar> you aren't playing your normal scum lurk style [16:17] <Palmar> I'm not sure what to think of that [16:17] <MrWiggles> yes, but I think that helps cut off stupid bandwagons [16:18] <Palmar> you weren't being bandwagoned [16:18] <MrWiggles> Half of the case against me, is just false really [16:18] <Palmar> yes, but why do you care? [16:18] <MrWiggles> mhmm, cut it off, before it happens [16:18] <MrWiggles> because there's at least 6 or so people all expressing the same feelings, based on nothing but flismy meta [16:19] <Palmar> you're smart enough to be able to tell when a case is going to take off and when it's not going anywhere [16:19] <Palmar> and clearly that wasn't going anywhere [16:19] <Palmar> but yet, you felt the need to defend yourself [16:19] <Palmar> it screams self-aware [16:19] <MrWiggles> Why not address it? It's a talking point. If people think you're scummy, they should be willing to discuss it [16:20] <MrWiggles> That helps avoid scum, who make an analysis, vote, and never talk about it again [16:20] <Palmar> yes, that's another favourite of mine [16:20] <Palmar> non-commital off-voters [16:20] <MrWiggles> mhmm [16:20] <Palmar> who just throw together a random analysis and dont push it [16:20] <MrWiggles> if drazerk really thinks his case is strong, he should be willing to back it up when I defend myself [16:20] <Palmar> do you think drazerk is scum? [16:21] <MrWiggles> not right now [16:21] <Palmar> he seems quite content not being listened too [16:21] <Palmar> I have his scum-meter set slightly towards scum [16:21] <MrWiggles> He was scum in RTM, and town in WaW2, his play closely resemble WaW2, and it's a night/day difference in paly style [16:21] <MrWiggles> Is why I think he's town right now [16:21] <MrWiggles> but meta isn't a strong argument, so it's not a super strong read [16:21] <Palmar> you're an interesting one [16:22] <Palmar> cause you really do give this game a lot of thought [16:22] <Palmar> not many people have called out deconduo [16:22] <Palmar> and I think I only shared my suspicions of him with mig [16:22] <Palmar> so you must've reached that conclusion on your own [16:22] <Palmar> or it's likely [16:22] <Palmar> I like that. [16:22] <MrWiggles> Haven't talked to anyone about it, but you [16:23] <Palmar> But you're still a bit... I don't know... [16:23] <Palmar> why do you lurk so much as scum? [16:23] <MrWiggles> Just reading his posts, makes me think scum, and of how he played in WaW2. He also had a weird PM convo with me [16:23] <MrWiggles> I was bored [16:23] <Palmar> mhm [16:23] <MrWiggles> I rolled scum straight, for a couple months or something [16:24] <Palmar> but this one is interesting? [16:24] <Palmar> cause you're town? [16:24] <MrWiggles> So, I started playing like scum all the time, because I forgot how I played as town [16:24] <MrWiggles> Yes, it's refreshing [16:24] <Palmar> if you had a gun, who'd you shoot tonight? [16:24] <MrWiggles> RedFF, maybe decon. [16:25] <Palmar> if you had a medpack, who'd you protect tonight? [16:25] <MrWiggles> hmmmm [16:25] <MrWiggles> Maybe Jackal [16:25] <Palmar> interesting [16:26] <Palmar> if you had a badge, who'd you investigate? [16:26] <MrWiggles> Kav, YM. [16:27] <Palmar> okay [16:28] <Palmar> My respective answers would be [16:28] <Palmar> kill: pyo or redff [16:28] <Palmar> protect: bumatlarge or syllo [16:28] <Palmar> investigate: mig or rol [16:29] <MrWiggles> Have you been talking to bum? [16:31] <Palmar> not much [16:31] <Palmar> but yes, some [16:32] <Palmar> anyway [16:32] <Palmar> this has been interesting, and eyeopening [16:32] <Palmar> I need to go afk [16:32] <Palmar> see you [16:32] <MrWiggles> alright [16:32] <MrWiggles> see ya From: Drazerk [ 8778 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 7/21/11 06:20 I think I can probably talk to him better since most people still think I hate your guts. Ill start a PM chat up with him and see if I can weasel anything from him that looks scummy / third party. Original Message From Mr. Wiggles: Mhmmm, seems weird. I'm not really obsessed with third parties though, I'm just talking about them, because they're scum. If the obsession talk continues in thread, I'm going to post PMs I had with people discussion Palmar, and that I think he might be third party. I'm not as sure of it anymore, but the suspicion was there before. If I was really obsessed, I would have been pushing for a lynch on him, and trying to back it up with analysis, but I didn't because I wasn't 100% certain on my read, and because there were good targets who looked like mafia up for lynch (redFF, RoL). Hide nested quote - Original Message From Drazerk: Yeah he was one of the only three to try and attack you where I was only going of meta analysis (which was later followed up by someone else). He seems more obsessed with these SK roles than you do ( No offence ) and jumped on the weakest bandwagon of the game in order to see your third party analysis would be put down. Original Message From Mr. Wiggles: You mean you think he's not the joker? Seems weird that Lucidity is so worried about finding out the third parties. Seems like all he's worried about is trying to finger me as batman in the thread, and apparently that carries over to PMs as well. Original Message From Drazerk: Interesting point about Lucidity but I don't think he is the batman as he was calling me out as acting like the batman wanting you dead so much. From: Lucidity [ 132 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: ♥ Date: 7/20/11 01:22 Yeah it looks like it'll either be redFF or supersoft at this point. It's funny how effective lurking can be. And half the thread is basically lurking. Enough for all the scum/sk and then some -_- Trying to stimulate some PM activity might work. So I'm assuming you're the joker trying to take out Batman Also I'm starting to trust you finally. Soft / Pyo are still good targets we shouldn't forget about while amber just gives me bad Vibes From: Drazerk [ 8778 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: Well that didn't take long Date: 7/21/11 07:08 Aye - I haven't told anyone I'm in contact with you yet so you might have to look at if there is any leaks talking to him. I'm not to sure about palmar he is being no where near as ruthless as he can be and I think he is probably trying to stay out of the spotlight. I think I have had one PM contact with him all game where he has claiming to be very active in PM land ( Not actually seen any pms of him in thread yet ) Hard to say I'd probably put him down as novice scum Original Message From Mr. Wiggles: Hmmm, where does he see my PMs? I've never talked to him, and only posted two chains in the thread. One, where syllo asks me about third parties out of the blue, and then one with VE, where we talk about Palmar a bit. The thing about that though, is that I thought Palmar was playing weirdly, but couldn't figure it out, since it wasn't a scummy way, but was still way off, so I put it down to being third-party. I thought something was off about him before I thought he was third party, lol. He obviously doesn't know what I'm doing in PM land, so he's grasping at stuff to find the batman. Hide nested quote - Original Message From Drazerk: From: Lucidity [ 133 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: Scum fights back Date: 7/21/11 06:43 Haha yeah, he could be, but I'm leaning more towards SK atm. He only seems interested when SKs are mentioned - In PMs and in the thread. He really hasn't done any scum hunting at all, which is an indication of both though. I'd be surprised if he's not dead in the morning. It'll either mean that he is Ra'as or medic protected him... Which would be a weird target for a save. I honestly don't see Ra'as not trying his luck on Mr Wiggles O: Original Message From Drazerk: Looks like wiggles is fighting back and going OMGUS on you. I Still think he is scum you? Well there's his opinion on you Hopefully a medic does protect you though your rather useful this game. From: Drazerk [ 8778 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Discussion Date: 7/21/11 07:25 BTW - Interesting PM from mig i got earlier he seems to believe he will be shot. From: Mig [ 1054 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 7/20/11 21:32 syllo/myself/palmar/curu have been the most active and have done the best analysis. If any of us 4 are mafia there is a good chance they will try to kill the other 3 also mafia can tell which ones are becoming most well trusted by the town. So they will likely target those people. But I made a very strong analysis against red which gives me a decent amount of town credit + I am very active in pms and searching for scum + I probably wont get medic protection because I am not as active in the thread as say wiggles or palmar so I am good person to kill. All reasons I think I will probably die . But hopefully not! I think he makes interesting points. Them 4 + you will probably be shot and we will find scum in the survivors. If you survive I'll probably need your help on hunting them down. | ||
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