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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 25 2011 05:03 GMT
#28
HAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
lurker check that's hilarious rol <3

/in
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 27 2011 13:42 GMT
#89
I'd say this game definitely has the potential for going past July 11th, bit unlikely though. I mean the game starts with around 4-5 total KP per 48 hours and it slowly falls as more people die etc.

Does "as soon as a mod sees your shot it will be updated immediately" apply for the regular Vigilante as well?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 02:57 GMT
#139
Good post GMarshal, I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game. It's almost as if they're a 3rd party faction. I like how you make a giant warning against lurkers when the game itself is designed to punish them.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:03 GMT
#145
On June 28 2011 11:59 Eiii wrote:
he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Ahh yes but which KP role, Vig/MH/Scum?

@Wiggles, I'd shoot straight into anyone that's been on the lurker list for more than a day. No point letting a lurker live when you have the power to take them out.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:20 GMT
#157
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.


Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting.

FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#164
On June 28 2011 12:24 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.


Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting.

FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage.


Does that really warrant an FoS? Are you willing to vote to back that up right now? Things like this should be kept in mind and used as evidence later on in the day phase when you actually have enough information and evidence to confidently label someone as scum. What it seems like here is that you're pushing a scum agenda trying to create an anti-town atmosphere of paranoia and weakly based suspicion.

I respectfully disagree with your philosophy of not being aggressive against anyone. More pressure = more slip ups, that's the point. Just don't take it personally and bandwagon it etc.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:42 GMT
#176
The last 10~ posts were spammy one liners. If you are that eager to create a pro-town atmosphere, stop arguing semantics and pointing out that you were referring to someone else and so on. This is exactly what happens in LR threads and it makes them hellish to read through. Yes, I've implied that GM and hiro may be scum, what of it? Being pro-town is much more than acting as good as you can possibly be, it also means actively finding scum. You are never going to find scum when you are posting ONLY to make yourself seem town.

Also,

Can Medics protect someone EVERY 36 hours with no downtime? Or do they have a 12 hour buffer zone where they can't protect?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 04:46 GMT
#209
Can you all seriously cut it out with those lists? BC's the one that used it in TL Mafia XLII and guess what, he was scum. They don't help town AT ALL and it just makes town talk about the most useless shit.

Good one hiro,

Varpulis, you're a GMarshal clone, your post is exactly like his opening post. I imagine there will be an epic power struggle between you two for the role of town leader, then once the game is over the winner of said power struggle will flip red. Go at it!
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 04:47 GMT
#210
ebwop
By lists I mean "list of experienced players", lists of people you find scummy or lurkers etc. are perfectly fine.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 05:59 GMT
#233
On June 28 2011 14:46 DropBear wrote:
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On June 28 2011 14:38 GMarshal wrote:
A pro-town atmosphere is one in which it is possible to scumhunt and read the thread without having to wade through crap. Its explained in Ver's town guide, but basically it means no mud flinging, no beating dead horses, avoiding unjustified OMGUS and generally behaving as gentlemen towards each other. If we do this we can generate and use information, it will also encourage newer posters to post. Thats the theory at least ^_^

To achieve this don't random FoS, treat even stupid ideas with respect (shoot them down, but theres no need to say "God you moron, you suck" just shoot it down) and behave in a way that makes people *want* to post and listen to what you have to say.

Also that post you pointed out is also similar to my post in the first 4 min of Closed Casket Mafia . Its a stylistic choice, and I really like the pictures of the grim reaper (not to mention I have like 12 I had ready for CCM, but then I was killed... ;_;) . Plus I hate lurkers, and I needed a conversation starter, so I chose to talk about them.

Any other questions?

Ok thanks for clearing that up for me. Beating dead horses I can agree with, as with behaving like gentlemen and mud flinging. If you eliminate unjusitified OMGUS votes my entire town play just disappeared, I always just attack people who call me and other relative newcomers bad lol.

I hadn't seen the Closed Casket game, fair enough. Get back to reaping sir!

What do you think about the exchange between Henry VI and Edward I?

Are you giving an excuse to play differently in this game than other games? Perhaps you just want to justify your actions for later in the game, it's okay I'd do it too ^_^

GM I'll answer for Dropbear.

I have indeed formed an opinion of ym and it is one of utmost respect. He is such a lively fellow who takes his time to shoot fireballs at anyone and everyone who posts because as we all know, scum are particularly vulnerable to fire. He seems to be trying to weed out any and all mafia before they can get slip out of sight and cause town to kill itself. I do have one qualm about his posts though, he seems to interchange the words scum and mafia often and this bothers me.

Hyaach I want you to answer me: Why did you first speak out and say "blues should not kill whoever they want" and then retract your statement by saying "blues should kill whoever they feel is scummy"? Did you get scared when we called you out on it? Did you decide not to post anymore because you've attracted too much attention? What's your opinion of me, am I a quack or am I being helpful to town? Don't forget to post your reasons, ta <3
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 06:05 GMT
#236
On June 28 2011 14:55 sandroba wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go completely against everything that's been said so far. Mafia are not dumb. They are very likely NOT going to lurk in this game. People should NOT be shooting into the lurker list until later or only if this becomes a real problem.
You guys can argue WIFOM all you want, but I'm willing to bet mafia won't find themselves in the lurker list any time soon.
Also we shall not make any lists this game. We will discuss 2-3 players at a time and leave blues to act on their own.
I shall start discussing YM. You pretty much started being agressive as always, but I feel after Mafia XLII you must have learned already that this is gonna lead us to endless confusion, no? My opinion is that you are abusing your town meta this game, throwing pointless flawed acusations like there's no tomorrow. Makes a lot of sense as scum trying to hide their colors doesn't it?

It does make a lot of sense but I seriously just have to throw it out there:

My scum play is even worse than my town play, if you can imagine.

You say I've thrown around pointless flawed accusations but I haven't really, in XLII I tunneled 2 people with lengthy analyses but this game I've done no such thing, nothing of the sort although I am trying to maintain the same level of aggressiveness.

I agree with you that arguing WIFOM is stupid though. Who gives a flying fuck who the mafia are gonna shoot on that list (well the medic does but discussing it isn't going to help), all you're going to do is waste valuable time and space and confuse everyone and everything.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 06:47 GMT
#247
LOLWUT
That was completely unexpected, I've never played a nightless game before. I'm going to assume that it was a scum hit?
The mafia were clearly trying to blue snipe and LSB seemed as if he was creating a plan. This leads me to believe the scum misinterpreted this as a Vet (no not experienced player, I mean the actual role) trying to make a good plan/trap to catch scum. My guess? The mafia roleblocked him and killed him hoping he was a Vet or at least a blue.

If the above is true, then this is a best case scenario for us as it means no other blue role will be roleblocked today.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 06:49 GMT
#248
Also, this means the medic should wait until the very end of this day, but not tomorrow, to save someone. Let me illustrate:

Since someone is already dead, your save today won't count for jack. If you save someone 1 minute (okay you can be a little more relaxed on this lol) before the end of the day, then your save will overlap to tomorrow and you get to save another person as soon as your first save expires.

Catch my drift?
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 06:58 GMT
#251
On June 28 2011 15:49 youngminii wrote:
Also, this means the medic should wait until the very end of this day, but not tomorrow, to save someone. Let me illustrate:

Since someone is already dead, your save today won't count for jack. If you save someone 1 minute (okay you can be a little more relaxed on this lol) before the end of the day, then your save will overlap to tomorrow and you get to save another person as soon as your first save expires.

Catch my drift?

Scratch this, I was operating under the assumption that mafia only had 1KP. I don't know why, complete fail by me.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#263
I can see what sandroba's saying, I don't fully agree but I don't fully disagree either. As for your point #4 I have actually acknowledged that as a complete fail by me, and you're actually wrong, roleblocks do in fact block the Vet's extra life, I took the time to ask RoL.

If you're going to make snide (rude) remarks about the people you are accusing, at least check your facts before blatantly throwing around 'facts'. I'm not impressed by the way you're handling yourself this game but I'm fairly certain you're not a scum.

If I was a DT and I was suspicious of GM, I would check him. I'm not going to tell you to do it though since we're operating a "do what you want" policy this game afaik.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 07:39 GMT
#267
Again with the throwing around facts, stop it and go back to read the rules.

"Only one power can be used per day. A detective is limited to one lurker check per 3 Days." is why.

Basically what you should be seeing is that lurkers are worthless to the town cause. They should be killed and the threat of being killed should discourage people from lurking. This is why I'm advocating killing anyone that's on a lurker list for more than one day.

Detective checks are more important than Vig kills in that they can only choose to either check normal people or people from the lurker list.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 07:52 GMT
#273
It's completely situational though, say everyone on the lurker list is scummy. Then obviously the DT will check them. But what if they're not, what if there are more pressing issues at hand and you really need to check someone like you or me or GM?

This is why the threat of being kicked into the lurker list is enough, while blues should do what they feel is best.

Enough of this talk imo, I absolutely agree with TheAwesomeAll's post but there's soo many people who basically haven't posted yet either. I'm going to head out for a bit and I'll stop clogging up the thread until more people have posted.

Ciao ^o^
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 07:53 GMT
#274
ebwop
I wasn't referring to TAA's most recent post, I meant the very length one up there.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 07:56 GMT
#276
THIS IS WAR
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 15:05 GMT
#316
just popping in to say hi, not 100% sober right now so i'll keep it short

the random bandwagon that has formed on sinani206 is nothing short of ridiculous, the arguments against him are completely unfounded and he has barely posted a defence, not that he normally does based on previous games anyway as a townie


On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:

a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.

It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.

But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.


if i hadn't seen you play in snmmiii i'd say you were 100% scum
but you played exactly like this and it's just the wrong way to go, cease your ridiculousness right now

i am satisfied with hyaach's answer to me more or less, i would now like to suggest a new lynch target

syllogism
he hasn't posted squat worth anything, all he's done is give a pretty damn blanket post regarding the setup
his only real post in this thread is a bunch of "blues you should do this, but then maybe not because of that, but then you should be keeping this in mind... oh and we should avoid wifom"
however, basically everything he has said creates wifom AND he's just lacing the thread with his 'content' posts without any scumhunting whatsoever, just making a post here and there

very suspicious to me, much more so than sinani206
lalala
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