EPTIt definitely won't start until XLII ends, I take it?
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It definitely won't start until XLII ends, I take it? | ||
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On June 25 2011 09:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: There are ? Townie's remaining in the game. There are ? Miller's remaining in the game. There are ? Medic's remaining in the game. There are ? Compulsive Vigilante's remaining in the game. There are ? Vigilante's remaining in the game. There are ? Detective's remaining in the game. There are ? Veteran's remaining in the game. There are ? Goon's remaining in the game. There are ? Roleblocker's remaining in the game. There are ? Godfather's remaining in the game. http://tinyurl.com/2hxkxc | ||
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3rd grade. Don't ask. | ||
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On June 26 2011 13:23 Sinani201 wrote: Glad to see you guys are more friendly about it. On another forum it turned into a huge mess, in which both of us were banned with the entire forum hating both of us. Looking back at it I wonder why I even tried arguing over the ban. Oh, digibutter. The good old days. 3rd grade. | ||
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Or a car. | ||
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On June 28 2011 10:01 Sinani201 wrote: How is that NSFW? lolucrazybro? | ||
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I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game. If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted? | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote: You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. That's how it works. I vote for you and you contribute ASAP, so that more people won't vote for you. | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:26 GMarshal wrote: Hi Nisani201. So, I've never played with you before. What if any is your mafia experience? As a matter of fact, if you are new, I'd like you to mention your mafia experience if any in your first post in the thread. I won't consider it a contribution, but its something I would like to know, so I can keep it in mind as I go over your posts. He knows the basics from IRL (no shit everyone does) and plays some SC2 Mafia. | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:30 Cthsazsa wrote: I agree with what Chaos13 said about the whole "setting up a pro-town atmosphere". No need for the useless fingerpointing when we're only about 20 minutes into the game. Also, flawed plan =/= scum. I think some of us learned that from PTP? lol. I'm not fingerpointing, I'm pressuring someone who I know can play well and want to make sure he has a good time his first game. | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote: That was more directed towards youngminii then anyone else but alrighty. Quote his post then. You confused me. | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:46 GMarshal wrote: I considered that as well LSB, I couldn't come up with a way to do it without the DTs claiming and being RBed though. What are your thoughts on how you would approach abusing the lurker list? There's no reason to be discussing this. There is no chance that RoL will allow it. It's like cheating rule #7: 7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip. Discussing this will spam up the thread. | ||
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Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost. As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are. Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this. Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind. That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! | ||
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On June 29 2011 01:41 Sinani201 wrote: The roles should have been randomized, likely with random.org. I doubt that RoL "strategically" planted roles on each of us. The roles aren't randomized, the host balances the game with help from some other people. Either way, I don't think the host would put us on the same team for various reasons. | ||
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On June 28 2011 21:25 DropBear wrote: Henry VI has been setting off alarm bells for me early. He originally set me off with his first several posts all being one-liners all directed at his mate. He has easily had the most pointless contribution so far. His largest post is this: This makes no sense to me at all. You are actively saying that we should kill people who try and lead the town and you also want to kill people who are lurking. Not only this, scum hunting is bona-fide town leadership! What middle ground do you want people to fill? Let's look at this again. They probably aren't scum but we should kill them anyway. Right. This post is a whole lot of nothing. FoS Henry VI. I never said we should kill the leaders. I said that if they do happen to be Mafia, it's ㅈㅈ already. I'm telling players not to take lead because of this. I didn't say to kill leaders, I said to not become one. | ||
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Why do I always get lynched D1? Drazerk and Palmar both have crappy reasons for voting for me. DropBear is the only one that had a good reason but now he's tunneling. GM is obviously a better candidate. | ||
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I like TAA's style a lot and wish I could play more like him. Also Drazerk is acting weirdly. Not too many strong feelings toward anyone though. I still am suspicious of GM, however. This whole "leader" playstyle still makes me feel doubtful that you are town. | ||
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I guess that was a vigilante trying to hit a lurker? Anyway, I will vote for VisceraEyes until he provides his analysis "coming up in a few minutes." If it is amazing (36 hours worth) then I will switch my vote over to Drazerk. If it is nowhere near the caliber you've been hyping, you get to keep my vote. | ||
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On June 30 2011 04:54 Mig wrote: How can you not find anything scummy to analyze lol? Practically everyone else in the game has done at least some analysis. I mean it isn't hard. If you want to contribute just post your thoughts on the other players, who you suspect and why. I mean surely after 30 pages you have some people you are more suspicious of than others. GM. I can't explain though, it's just so hard to get this out of my head. It may be because of his leading, but for some reason I just find him extremely scummy. | ||
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On June 30 2011 05:04 Drazerk wrote: Wow... that is stupidly weak "I suspect GM ... But i have no reason why" The only reason you have is him leading the town when we have already discussed how this is not scummy unless they constantly try to control every blue command. Palmar is leading the town. Is he scum to you as well? I'm sincerely sorry that I don't have a good reason, but that seems to be the case. I just have a hunch that he is scum. | ||
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You're using the martyr thing to defend yourself again. Do you not understand that dying is detrimental to your team? | ||
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Not in your case. | ||
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On June 30 2011 06:00 Drazerk wrote: I would like to throw this conversation out there that He is Still not contributing but rather using OMGUS in One liners ... I'm not OMGUSing you. If you haven't noticed, my vote is still on VisceraEyes. I might OMGUS you if you keep posting bullshit, though. | ||
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On June 30 2011 06:00 Drazerk wrote: I would like to throw this conversation out there that He is Still not contributing but rather using OMGUS in One liners ... Also, you're "throwing it out there" on purpose to make people vote for me instead of you. That's a really scummy defense. | ||
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On June 30 2011 06:12 Drazerk wrote: Someone who has not contributed much making one liners and then claims that me pointing out is a scummy move... You are Scum and unless you can prove me other whys my vote will stay on you OK, how do I prove you "otherwhys"? | ||
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Nisani201 has 36 posts in the thread, 24 of which are from after the Day 1 post. His mean post length is 2.5 sentences, his mode post length is 2 sentences, and his maximum post length is 6 sentences which he reached 2 times. Just keep these numbers in mind as I continue this analysis. Here is an example of one of Nisani201's better posts: On June 29 2011 07:59 Sinani201 wrote: I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk In this post, he simply agrees with sandroba's thoughts that syllogism is town and Cthsazsa's analysis, which showed that Drazerk was scum. He does not provide any new content. His other 6-sentence gem: On June 29 2011 10:33 Sinani201 wrote: This trend of shooting down spammy players is insanely stupid; it's what lost the town in XVII. Cthasza wrote a fantastic analysis on Drazerk, and if he's right about it then there shouldn't be a reason to lynch him. I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam. That is all. He provides one tiny piece of advice: not to kill spammy players, which is only half-right: lynch scum, shoot spammers. He re-references Cthasza's analysis and defends his vote, but he doesn't give any evidence of Drazerk's "contradictions and slip-ups." These are Nisani201's two longest posts, and both of them are simply parroting what others have said and stating the obvious without adding any new analysis to the table. Here are some examples of what the average Nisani201 post looks like: On June 28 2011 11:57 Sinani201 wrote: No more stupid TF2 Garry's Mod videos. This is serious business. On June 28 2011 14:15 Sinani201 wrote: Sorry, bad formatting. Please change my name on the player list to "Nisani201 (Sinani201)" as that is what I should be known as throughout the game On June 28 2011 14:40 Sinani201 wrote: Palmar is not in this game, he submitted /out soon before the game started. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=6#109 On June 29 2011 01:41 Sinani201 wrote: The roles should have been randomized, likely with random.org. I doubt that RoL "strategically" planted roles on each of us. On June 30 2011 06:35 Sinani201 wrote: When is Day over? What happens if the lynch ends up being a tie? These are all bits of information that are not useful to the town in any way and questions that can easily be answered by reading the OP. He makes these posts because he doesn't want to have to post content, but he doesn't want to seem inactive. On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote: You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. First, I pressure him into posting and he responds by saying that he will contribute when he has enough information. Let's see what he means by contribute: On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote: From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic. This is his "analysis" of chaos13, where he points out that he is either Mafia or Medic. This contribution does not help town at all. The fact that he could be on either side is useless, and pointing out that he could be Medic helps Mafia, as GMarshal pointed out. His next "contribution:" On June 29 2011 09:38 Sinani201 wrote: I don't really understand how the first quote from him is a scumslip. The second one is iffy; I could see why you might think it's suspicious but it could by no means be used as a primary argument. He is referring my supposed scumslips which were posted by sandroba. He refuses to take a stance on my play. He is acting extremely safe and neutral, which is a scummy trait. A more recent post: On June 30 2011 00:40 Sinani201 wrote: Drazerk has posts that give off scumtells. For Viscera, it's a lack of posts. I don't understand why the bandwagon against Drazerk is a bad thing. A lot of people are voting for him. That just means Cthsasa's analysis against him was good. It's not OMGUS, it's just agreement. He says that a lot of people are voting for Drazerk because Cthazsa's analysis was good. I assume he was talking about himself as well when he said this. He subtly explains that he is voting because of the analysis, not because he actually thought that Drazerk was scummy. This is a major scumslip. He is basically saying he found a good analysis to hide behind. Finally, he says this in response to Drazerk's analysis of me: On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote: You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you? This is a scummy post because Drazerk's analysis of me was good because it could have started some healthy discussion, and as scum, Nisani201 would want to stop all discussion, which he does, which proves his scumminess. That took an hour and a half to write. Whew. My vote will stay on VisceraEyes today, but tomorrow, I urge all of you to vote for Nisani 201. Thank you, good sirs. | ||
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On June 30 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote: Since we are now inside the "No Shoot" window I'll share my thoughts. The people I see as scum right now: Cthsazsa Lanaia youngminii hiro protagonist Mig Palmar sinani206 All of them with the exception of Palmar and to some extent Sinani have been less than active and what little they have posted has either made me a bit uncomfy or just plain set off some bells. Until Sinani began to defend himself he was on the list of say little without saying anything club. Palmar you're just trying to fucking hard to be town. Between VisceraEyes and Drazerk, who do you find more scummy? | ||
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On June 30 2011 08:18 sandroba wrote: Fuckballs, sinani's analysis on his alter ego is actually quite decent. O.O ty lol | ||
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On June 30 2011 08:29 Kenpachi wrote: I think the nickname Kenpachi 2.0 is appropriate :D I am honored, sir. | ||
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On June 30 2011 09:03 Sinani201 wrote: Fantastic. I am so excited to hear this analysis only to find out... that it is about me. *puts on sunglasses* Defense time. My comments on the analysis are in red. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2011 08:07 sinani206 wrote: Nisani201
Nisani201 has 36 posts in the thread, 24 of which are from after the Day 1 post. His mean post length is 2.5 sentences, his mode post length is 2 sentences, and his maximum post length is 6 sentences which he reached 2 times. Just keep these numbers in mind as I continue this analysis. Those numbers mean anything, and I don't understand why you would waste your time doing all that math and counting. Quality over quantity is what matters. Just because a post is short doesn't mean it can't be useful. I used Excel, FYI, and most to all of your posts are useless. Here is an example of one of Nisani201's better posts: On June 29 2011 07:59 Sinani201 wrote: I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk In this post, he simply agrees with sandroba's thoughts that syllogism is town and Cthsazsa's analysis, which showed that Drazerk was scum. He does not provide any new content. I defended Syllogism with some thoughts on his behaviour. Does that not count as new content? There was no active defense of Syllogism in this post. You parroted sandroba to try to gain towncred. His other 6-sentence gem: On June 29 2011 10:33 Sinani201 wrote: This trend of shooting down spammy players is insanely stupid; it's what lost the town in XVII. Cthasza wrote a fantastic analysis on Drazerk, and if he's right about it then there shouldn't be a reason to lynch him. I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam. That is all. He provides one tiny piece of advice: not to kill spammy players, which is only half-right: lynch scum, shoot spammers. He re-references Cthasza's analysis and defends his vote, but he doesn't give any evidence of Drazerk's "contradictions and slip-ups."\ Right now Viscera is under fire because his analysis was supposedly a repeat of what others have said. It's implied that the contradictions and slip-ups are in Cthsasza's analysis. The first sentence of your argument doesn't apply to your post in any way, and you should have provided which specific examples of Drazerk's posts you thought were "contradictions and slip-ups" and possibly have contributed more of them. These are Nisani201's two longest posts, and both of them are simply parroting what others have said and stating the obvious without adding any new analysis to the table. Completely wrong, as I've stated in the red. Completely right, as I've stated in the green. Here are some examples of what the average Nisani201 post looks like: On June 28 2011 11:57 Sinani201 wrote: No more stupid TF2 Garry's Mod videos. This is serious business. The reason why "fluff" is so frowned upon is because it makes it hard to navigate through the thread. Fluff takes space from important things like analysis, defense, and possible scumslips. This post was at the very beginning, so it's stupid to say that it is a "fluff" post. It was part of a rush to make sure you were one of the first to post so that you weren't frowned upon later for lurking. Even though it didn't get in the way of anything, it's still a useless, spammy post. On June 28 2011 14:15 Sinani201 wrote: Sorry, bad formatting. Please change my name on the player list to "Nisani201 (Sinani201)" as that is what I should be known as throughout the game I don't understand how this is fluff. I said it because there was a post before it where someone named me Sinani, which is what I want to avoid. You said this at least 2 times before the game, I don't see the need to keep spamming it to increase your post count. On June 28 2011 14:40 Sinani201 wrote: Palmar is not in this game, he submitted /out soon before the game started. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=6#109 Though this ended up not being true, it was new content that I was bringing attention to the other players. They later thanked me for telling them. It was new content, but not related to the game. I wouldn't have a problem with this type of post if you actually analysed people, but all you do is parrot. This probably seemed to you like a good chance to make a post to improve your towncred. On June 29 2011 01:41 Sinani201 wrote: The roles should have been randomized, likely with random.org. I doubt that RoL "strategically" planted roles on each of us. This was in response to your post about how it would be unlikely for us to be on the same alignment. I thought that you had been mistaken on how the roles were generated. I was wrong but remember that I am a newbie so I don't know how everything works. It was still a useless post that increased your post count. Again, a post like this is fine if you are contributing, but you are falsely contributing with each of these posts. On June 30 2011 06:35 Sinani201 wrote: When is Day over? What happens if the lynch ends up being a tie? This isn't fluff, it's a question. All of the information can be found in the OP. There's no need to ask it in the thread. These are all bits of information that are not useful to the town in any way and questions that can easily be answered by reading the OP. He makes these posts because he doesn't want to have to post content, but he doesn't want to seem inactive. On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote: You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. First, I pressure him into posting and he responds by saying that he will contribute when he has enough information. Let's see what he means by contribute: On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote: From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic. This is his "analysis" of chaos13, where he points out that he is either Mafia or Medic. This contribution does not help town at all. The fact that he could be on either side is useless, and pointing out that he could be Medic helps Mafia, as GMarshal pointed out. It's not analysis, it's a comment, a contribution if you will. If I were trying to help the Mafia I would have been able to tell them in PM. You analysed his post, therefore this is an analysis. You probably did it in the thread to increase your post count. His next "contribution:" On June 29 2011 09:38 Sinani201 wrote: I don't really understand how the first quote from him is a scumslip. The second one is iffy; I could see why you might think it's suspicious but it could by no means be used as a primary argument. He is referring my supposed scumslips which were posted by sandroba. He refuses to take a stance on my play. He is acting extremely safe and neutral, which is a scummy trait. It's Day 1, so evidence can't always be 100%. I also don't want to be put under fire for taking a too aggressive stance on topics. Why don't you want to be put under fire? Is it because your're scared that somebody will find out that you're scum? A more recent post: On June 30 2011 00:40 Sinani201 wrote: Drazerk has posts that give off scumtells. For Viscera, it's a lack of posts. I don't understand why the bandwagon against Drazerk is a bad thing. A lot of people are voting for him. That just means Cthsasa's analysis against him was good. It's not OMGUS, it's just agreement. He says that a lot of people are voting for Drazerk because Cthazsa's analysis was good. I assume he was talking about himself as well when he said this. He subtly explains that he is voting because of the analysis, not because he actually thought that Drazerk was scummy. This is a major scumslip. He is basically saying he found a good analysis to hide behind. The point of an analysis is to convince other people to vote for someone. Cthazsa's analysis convinced me to vote for Drazerk. Well of course you can give a reason now, but you scumslipped earlier. Finally, he says this in response to Drazerk's analysis of me: On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote: You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you? This is a scummy post because Drazerk's analysis of me was good because it could have started some healthy discussion, and as scum, Nisani201 would want to stop all discussion, which he does, which proves his scumminess. My comment on the analysis did not take away any potential for discussion. I was simply stating my opinion. If anyone else has opinions on it, by all means tell us. Again, you can say that now, but the way you phrased it felt like you were trying to finalize the fact that he was mafia and have no one else listen to him That took an hour and a half to write. Whew. My vote will stay on VisceraEyes today, but tomorrow, I urge all of you to vote for Nisani 201. Thank you, good sirs. Of course your responses are in red, because that is the color of your role. My response responses are in green. | ||
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Anyway, just finished reading from my analysis up to here, and guess what? ##unvote VisceraEyes ##vote Drazerk | ||
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RoL! 35 minutes is only 21:00 PDT. I thought the day ended at 22:00PDT? | ||
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I am being replaced for logistical reasons (also known as host failing) but its ok rol, we know how hard you worked. | ||
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 But from the day I played, it was really fun. We should definitely play more games like this and experiment with 3rd party roles and other special rules. | ||
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