+ Show Spoiler +On June 30 2011 09:03 Sinani201 wrote:Fantastic. I am so excited to hear this analysis only to find out... that it is about me. *puts on sunglasses* Defense time. My comments on the analysis are in red. + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2011 08:07 sinani206 wrote:Nisani201
- Number and length of posts
Nisani201 has 36 posts in the thread, 24 of which are from after the Day 1 post. His mean post length is 2.5 sentences, his mode post length is 2 sentences, and his maximum post length is 6 sentences which he reached 2 times. Just keep these numbers in mind as I continue this analysis.
Those numbers mean anything, and I don't understand why you would waste your time doing all that math and counting. Quality over quantity is what matters. Just because a post is short doesn't mean it can't be useful.
I used Excel, FYI, and most to all of your posts are useless.
- Contentless posting
Here is an example of one of Nisani201's better posts:
On June 29 2011 07:59 Sinani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote:
@Hiro How about a reason to vote for him? I'm pretty confident syllogism is town. I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk
In this post, he simply agrees with sandroba's thoughts that syllogism is town and Cthsazsa's analysis, which showed that Drazerk was scum. He does not provide any new content.
I defended Syllogism with some thoughts on his behaviour. Does that not count as new content?
There was no active defense of Syllogism in this post. You parroted sandroba to try to gain towncred.
His other 6-sentence gem:
On June 29 2011 10:33 Sinani201 wrote:
This trend of shooting down spammy players is insanely stupid; it's what lost the town in XVII. Cthasza wrote a fantastic analysis on Drazerk, and if he's right about it then there shouldn't be a reason to lynch him.
I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam.
That is all.
He provides one tiny piece of advice: not to kill spammy players, which is only half-right: lynch scum, shoot spammers. He re-references Cthasza's analysis and defends his vote, but he doesn't give any evidence of Drazerk's "contradictions and slip-ups."\
Right now Viscera is under fire because his analysis was supposedly a repeat of what others have said. It's implied that the contradictions and slip-ups are in Cthsasza's analysis.
The first sentence of your argument doesn't apply to your post in any way, and you should have provided which specific examples of Drazerk's posts you thought were "contradictions and slip-ups" and possibly have contributed more of them.
These are Nisani201's two longest posts, and both of them are simply parroting what others have said and stating the obvious without adding any new analysis to the table.
Completely wrong, as I've stated in the red.
Completely right, as I've stated in the green.
- Active lurking
Here are some examples of what the average Nisani201 post looks like:
On June 28 2011 11:57 Sinani201 wrote:
No more stupid TF2 Garry's Mod videos.
This is serious business.
The reason why "fluff" is so frowned upon is because it makes it hard to navigate through the thread. Fluff takes space from important things like analysis, defense, and possible scumslips. This post was at the very beginning, so it's stupid to say that it is a "fluff" post.
It was part of a rush to make sure you were one of the first to post so that you weren't frowned upon later for lurking. Even though it didn't get in the way of anything, it's still a useless, spammy post.
On June 28 2011 14:15 Sinani201 wrote:
Sorry, bad formatting.
Please change my name on the player list to "Nisani201 (Sinani201)" as that is what I should be known as throughout the game
I don't understand how this is fluff. I said it because there was a post before it where someone named me Sinani, which is what I want to avoid.
You said this at least 2 times before the game, I don't see the need to keep spamming it to increase your post count.
On June 28 2011 14:40 Sinani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I enjoy how GMarshal included Palmar on the Vet list, yet his first game was my first game as well. Yes, he had a strong showing for Mafia that game...but in all honesty, scum won from an inactive town. I wonder what motivation GMarshal has putting a new player like Palmar (if you'd like to see an example of his 'stellar town play', may I direct you to PTP?) in the 'Vet' side of that list. He's certainly no vet as far as I'm concerned.
Palmar is not in this game, he submitted /out soon before the game started. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=6#109
Though this ended up not being true, it was new content that I was bringing attention to the other players. They later thanked me for telling them.
It was new content, but not related to the game. I wouldn't have a problem with this type of post if you actually analysed people, but all you do is parrot. This probably seemed to you like a good chance to make a post to improve your towncred.
On June 29 2011 01:41 Sinani201 wrote:
The roles should have been randomized, likely with random.org. I doubt that RoL "strategically" planted roles on each of us.
This was in response to your post about how it would be unlikely for us to be on the same alignment. I thought that you had been mistaken on how the roles were generated. I was wrong but remember that I am a newbie so I don't know how everything works.
It was still a useless post that increased your post count. Again, a post like this is fine if you are contributing, but you are falsely contributing with each of these posts.
On June 30 2011 06:35 Sinani201 wrote:
When is Day over?
What happens if the lynch ends up being a tie?
This isn't fluff, it's a question.
All of the information can be found in the OP. There's no need to ask it in the thread.
These are all bits of information that are not useful to the town in any way and questions that can easily be answered by reading the OP. He makes these posts because he doesn't want to have to post content, but he doesn't want to seem inactive.
- Scummy play
On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:15 sinani206 wrote:
Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going.
I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game.
If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted? You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute.
First, I pressure him into posting and he responds by saying that he will contribute when he has enough information. Let's see what he means by contribute:
On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first. From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic.
This is his "analysis" of chaos13, where he points out that he is either Mafia or Medic. This contribution does not help town at all. The fact that he could be on either side is useless, and pointing out that he could be Medic helps Mafia, as GMarshal pointed out.
It's not analysis, it's a comment, a contribution if you will. If I were trying to help the Mafia I would have been able to tell them in PM.
You analysed his post, therefore this is an analysis. You probably did it in the thread to increase your post count.
His next "contribution:"
On June 29 2011 09:38 Sinani201 wrote:
I don't really understand how the first quote from him is a scumslip. The second one is iffy; I could see why you might think it's suspicious but it could by no means be used as a primary argument.
He is referring my supposed scumslips which were posted by sandroba. He refuses to take a stance on my play. He is acting extremely safe and neutral, which is a scummy trait.
It's Day 1, so evidence can't always be 100%. I also don't want to be put under fire for taking a too aggressive stance on topics.
Why don't you want to be put under fire? Is it because your're scared that somebody will find out that you're scum?
A more recent post:
On June 30 2011 00:40 Sinani201 wrote:
Drazerk has posts that give off scumtells. For Viscera, it's a lack of posts.
I don't understand why the bandwagon against Drazerk is a bad thing. A lot of people are voting for him. That just means Cthsasa's analysis against him was good. It's not OMGUS, it's just agreement.
He says that a lot of people are voting for Drazerk because Cthazsa's analysis was good. I assume he was talking about himself as well when he said this. He subtly explains that he is voting because of the analysis, not because he actually thought that Drazerk was scummy. This is a major scumslip. He is basically saying he found a good analysis to hide behind.
The point of an analysis is to convince other people to vote for someone. Cthazsa's analysis convinced me to vote for Drazerk.
Well of course you can give a reason now, but you scumslipped earlier.
Finally, he says this in response to Drazerk's analysis of me:
On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote:
You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you?
This is a scummy post because Drazerk's analysis of me was good because it could have started some healthy discussion, and as scum, Nisani201 would want to stop all discussion, which he does, which proves his scumminess.
My comment on the analysis did not take away any potential for discussion. I was simply stating my opinion. If anyone else has opinions on it, by all means tell us.
Again, you can say that now, but the way you phrased it felt like you were trying to finalize the fact that he was mafia and have no one else listen to him
That took an hour and a half to write. Whew. My vote will stay on VisceraEyes today, but tomorrow, I urge all of you to vote for Nisani 201. Thank you, good sirs.
Of course your responses are in red, because that is the color of your role. My response responses are in green.
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