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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 16 2011 09:38 GMT
#41
/in
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 16 2011 11:09 GMT
#43
On June 16 2011 19:59 omgCRAZY wrote:
Alright! Let's get this thing started! Need my mafia fix!


hehe yes.
This will become pretty cool, since we all know each other from the previous mafia. :-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 16 2011 12:07 GMT
#45
yes everyone please write his role on a paper and go!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 17 2011 23:16 GMT
#120
Dt sees the color of the checked player. and I think DT should never roleclaim asap. it's much better to give some hints by "analyzing" players if he found someone. when he got two mafia, I agree he should probably roleclaim.
but since we don't know whether there is a medic, it would be bad if we lose our only blue in exchange to one mafia.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 18 2011 17:37 GMT
#150
i'll vote for treadmill for putting up such an aweful plan for our DTs. i'll be back in about 24 hours. until then i'll spend my time on the german Autobahn ;-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 18 2011 17:52 GMT
#151
wtf where is the votingthread??
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 18 2011 17:59 GMT
#153
just realized that, sorry!

##vote: Treadmill
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 15:21 GMT
#195
On June 20 2011 00:05 CjrNinja wrote:
Well, it looks like supersoft hasn't come back yet. I'm taking my vote off him and onto gtrsrs. His plan to pile all our votes and waste them on a modkill, negating ANY possibility of getting a mafia today and effectively turning day 2 into another random lynch day 1 is the scummiest thing i've seen so far.

Gtrsrs' personality change from a fearless tunneling townie to a passive, uncommitted scum is not unnoticed by me. Gtrsrs: If you think Drazerk is the scummiest so far, then fucking vote for him. There is no 100% certainty on day 1. By lynching a modkill, the day 2 certainty for lynching a scum will be no closer to 100% then it is today.

##Unvote: supersoft
##Vote: gtrsrs


haha, now I am back, so you may put your vote back on me if you wish.

I don't know what to say about gtrsrs... I agree with him, that we shouldn't randomlynch on day1 in general... mhh difficult situation. If we had a DT for sure, I'd also say, we better lynch a lurker/afkler... But since we cannot be sure about that...
From another point of view: If he was mafia, he shouldn't be interested in lynching a person that's afk. Best case for them is, if we lynch one of us who is contributing. So I think this position of him to lynch someone who probably gets modkilled doesn't convince me.
A more valid point is his passiveness...

How much time is left until nighttime?


supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 15:35 GMT
#197
wait a second, I have to make some notes.
pretty funny how strong your behavior changed from the last game when you were mafia :D
Is this a mindgame or are you really townie this time?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 18:26 GMT
#218
this shit is getting out of control. I recommend to lynch Treadmill. this guy is completely useless + he proposed a really, really bad plan that included roleclaiming.

gtrsrs is innocent. Unbelievable. I reread the whole thread, and he's the only one that isn't suspicious to me.

I really don't trust aprudds. He is only agressively trying to be the townleader and control the action. But he doesn't lead us anywhere. He just jumps from target to target and accuses everyone, who posts something in here. Moreover is this guy smart enough to change his behavior without a reason - he doesn't need a new role for that.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#220
oh wait you made about 5 new posts since mine...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 18:48 GMT
#232
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 03:35 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 03:26 supersoft wrote:
this shit is getting out of control. I recommend to lynch Treadmill. this guy is completely useless + he proposed a really, really bad plan that included roleclaiming.

gtrsrs is innocent. Unbelievable. I reread the whole thread, and he's the only one that isn't suspicious to me.

I really don't trust aprudds. He is only agressively trying to be the townleader and control the action. But he doesn't lead us anywhere. He just jumps from target to target and accuses everyone, who posts something in here. Moreover is this guy smart enough to change his behavior without a reason - he doesn't need a new role for that.


Really Gtrsrs is the ONLY person that isn't suspicious? You sir need to get your brain checked.

Lynch Treadmill? You must have some BRILLIANT reasoning for this.

Let's see....

A)He's useless
B)He suggested a bad plan


Damn, with that reasoning we must all probably be scum. How can you judge usefulness on day one again?

Also if your suspicious of me why are you trying to lynch treadmill again? Because he's "useless"? So if we go by that logic we should ignore everyone suspicious and try and lynch everyone we think is "useless" right?

Can we please smarten up? If you really think I'm scum make an argument about it.



I promise, that I'll set up an argument if gtrsrs flips green.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 19:10 GMT
#245
there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either.
What's the votecount so far?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 19:47 GMT
#266
You guys realize that this lynch is completely random. Just look at gtrsrs posts before this started.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2011 06:23 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:13 Treadmill wrote:
Well, I'm gonna start by tossing out something that should be fairly obvious. If we have a DT, they should claim as soon as they hit a red. With only 3 mafia members, getting rid of a single one would be fantastic, and drop their KP right away. Obviously they shouldn't claim if they only hit a townie (though they maybe should claim to stop a mislynch? No so sure about this).

I think we can safely ignore the possibility of the set-up being the roleblocker, 2 goons, 9 townies, because that would be stupid.


disagree at all points

since we potentially have a roleblocker (who i might accidentally call a "hooker" as habit from epicmafia, just a heads up), the mafia doesn't actually need to kill a power role to nullify it. they can hook it all game and go after other townies since a confirmed DT that can't provide reports is worse than the possibility that there's a DT out there somewhere.

a DT should only *definitely* claim if he's got a guilty when there are TWO mafia left. there are no millers in any set-up so his reports will be 100% accurate, and narrowing us down to 1 mafia from 2 (especially if that means a 50% chance at hitting a roleblocker if there is one) is better than sacrificing his power to get a single goon. IMO.

also i don't think it's safe to ignore any set-ups as possibilities. while it would certainly make for a less "fun" game, there's strategic merit in every set-up including the almost all-'nilla set-up. just "assuming" we have blue roles would benefit the mafia, as we may wait for a medic save or detective report that never comes

for reference on this page, these are the possible set-ups:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town.
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town.



For example this first post. This post makes perfect sense if he is the medic. He only talks about the setup with a roleblocker, because if there is a DT, there's also a roleblocker. ARGH! guys!!! This roleclaiming was pretty stupid... But not nearly as stupid as this OUT OF CONTROL accuses by aprudds! If you are town, then you are the reason for us losing this game! Now mafia has every information about the setup they require to fool us completely...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 19 2011 19:48 GMT
#267
##unvote

##vote: aprudds
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 20 2011 22:47 GMT
#407
I have to agree, Xedat is pretty suspicious. I just went trough all his posts.

at first, he just makes some useless posts, no accuses, just a little bandwagoning here and there. In fact he first voted on Drazerk, switched to gtrsrs and switched again to aprudds. Not a reason to call him scum (I also switched twice :D)
What made me consider that he's mafia is his recent behavior. Since people started accusing him, he changed dramatically:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote:
looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me.
Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon."
Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way?
Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play.

Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave.

It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia.



Note this: "Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave." .... third person... Well I don't know, I might be wrong, but I think he meant: "You idiots, I didn't act suspicious at all."

Also this: + Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him.



Also this one. "you call me scum? You are scum yourself!"
All in all, Xedat is the most obvious choice even more than Drazerk and gtrsrs. I am not sure about both. They were both under heavy pressure and posted some suspicious/strange things...

##vote: Xedat
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#408
On June 21 2011 07:42 Alderan wrote:
Umm what??? I got RB'd......??

So this will almost assuredly get me lynched, but the town needs to know the set up, so I had to claim.

What just happened?


oh wait... I didn't see this... This changes everything... got to think about that
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 21 2011 22:36 GMT
#440
Oh man it's incredibly difficult with you guys... It's so hard to separate between newbs and scum. The newbs act extremely suspicious. The consequence is that like 60% of the players are suspicious.
Xedat/Drazerk/Alderan/CjrNinja/Treadmill I really don't know what to think about you guys. I just see you guys bandwagoning around.
But we can't just lynch you all in a small game like this. We are 2 lynches away from losing. You guys have to realize this!

Can you please post some more thought out posts? It would really help us. We have to stick together in order to beat the mafia at this point. If everyone is only interested in surviving, we can't and won't win this.
Xedat, it would be great if you post some explanations for your behavior. Especially the posts I quoted in my last post.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2011 07:47 supersoft wrote:
I have to agree, Xedat is pretty suspicious. I just went trough all his posts.

at first, he just makes some useless posts, no accuses, just a little bandwagoning here and there. In fact he first voted on Drazerk, switched to gtrsrs and switched again to aprudds. Not a reason to call him scum (I also switched twice :D)
What made me consider that he's mafia is his recent behavior. Since people started accusing him, he changed dramatically:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote:
looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me.
Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon."
Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way?
Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play.

Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave.

It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia.



Note this: "Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave." .... third person... Well I don't know, I might be wrong, but I think he meant: "You idiots, I didn't act suspicious at all."

Also this: + Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him.



Also this one. "you call me scum? You are scum yourself!"
All in all, Xedat is the most obvious choice even more than Drazerk and gtrsrs. I am not sure about both. They were both under heavy pressure and posted some suspicious/strange things...

##vote: Xedat



I also would be really glad if someone could sum up the accuses against gtrsrs, that are still valid. He was accused of being too passive. Explanation for that would be, that he is our medic. Does someone have something real against him, or are his "voters" just scum that wants to create a suspicious situation around him by just voting him and claiming he's scum, hoping for a bandwagon? Pyo please, you seem pretty reasonable. Don't take this game too personal. You have to stay focussed.
Work something out, and don't be just pissed about the fact, that gtrsrs wasn't lynched at day1.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 21:41 GMT
#534
I am not the DT, but how is your "trick" supposed to convince me. It was pretty obvious that you are not the DT either - at first you say something like:"let me think about something" after that you claim DT. That was extremely artificial. Mafia could now just step up and claim DT if there is no real DT... This plan didn't work out too well... We will never know whether that will be the real DT or not...

I know, that I pushed two mislynches... Okay, aprudds wasn't a good choice right from the beginning, but it was a weird situation and I tried to save our medic (and I was right about this guy)...
But I thought Xedat was 100% scum...

Since today is the last chance for us to come back, I will read the whole thread again and try to find something apart from the whole DT/roleblock-Claimstory... Obviously we can't trust the DT that will now come forward... We don't know whether he's scum or not and we don't know whether Alderan is scum or not.
Again: Since this is the last chance, don't overreact if someone roleclaims... He and Alderan could be mafia or they could be innocent. We don't know. And we can't afford a mislynch!

These overeager decisions in the past, nearly costed us the game! Now calm down, its 4:3 we nearly have a 50% chance to one of them.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#535
and until noone appears and claims DT

##vote: Alderan
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