On June 26 2011 12:37 hiro protagonist wrote: haha, GG mafia.
Man, BC is a sly dog in PM world. I had a 40% GF lead on him and when I PMed him, it was with half a mind to trap him somehow, while using my second PM with Mataza. After talking thou, I was 100% certain that BC was town, and never talked to anyone else LOL. Its weird that he bussed node, because I told him I wanted to put my bomb on Sandroba, which they killed that night anyway...
I think it had to do with BC wanting town cred, Node being useless and Sandroba already suspecting Node and probably pressuring BC.
Actually, it was Node having a fried computer. The day 3 post references that, except with the wrong player
Lol, I lovethe crazy crisscrossing plans. From the beginning BC was planning to shoot someone and claim vigi, it would've been me after I went inactive but he managed to finagle whatever the hell happened in PMs.
Again, my apologies for being useless. My computer really is dead, I didn't lie to you about that, Vis.
Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer.
Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago.
With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on.
Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon
Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote:
On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler]
On June 18 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: ...(@DeMorcerf) Tell me who is scum.
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)
wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled.
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.
Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?
Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have.
First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary.
That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia.
Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol.
Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it.
I can't believe Sandroba didnt't suspect BC at that point. After his ridiculous Zodiac list plan he didn't do anything at all whole game
Also, it's a pretty silly meta how you've to pretend you are sure that the person you vote to lynch is scum when in reality these flimsy scum "tells" only slightly increase the probability of them not being town. Uncertainty is a pretty weak scum tell anyway and scum tells aren't scum tells once they are known.
Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer.
Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago.
With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on.
Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon
Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote:
On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler]
On June 18 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: ...(@DeMorcerf) Tell me who is scum.
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)
wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled.
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.
Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?
Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have.
First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary.
That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia.
Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol.
Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it.
I didn't really sheep his accusation though. I was just the first one to say your "trap" wasn't going to work and stuck my vote on YM cause there was an analysis, and because it was made by RoL. Those two points were important to me, because I knew RoL was going to flip green/blue, so by sticking my vote on the person he made an analysis on, I made myself look aligned with him. At least that's how I see it. Unfortunately, it was a lot of the lurkers who sheeped, and ended up voting with RoL, and actually killing YM.
In the end, your plan didn't work, because RoL was green. :p I'd like to hear from Sandroba what he actually said to RoL too, because I'm interested if he actually said you were blue or not, haha.
Also, as far as I remember, none of our hits N0 and N1 were blue snipes either. :p
Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer.
Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago.
With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on.
Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon
Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote:
On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler]
On June 18 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: ...(@DeMorcerf) Tell me who is scum.
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)
wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled.
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.
Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?
Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have.
First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary.
That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia.
Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol.
Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it.
I didn't really sheep his accusation though. I was just the first one to say your "trap" wasn't going to work and stuck my vote on YM cause there was an analysis, and because it was made by RoL. Those two points were important to me, because I knew RoL was going to flip green/blue, so by sticking my vote on the person he made an analysis on, I made myself look aligned with him. At least that's how I see it. Unfortunately, it was a lot of the lurkers who sheeped, and ended up voting with RoL, and actually killing YM.
In the end, your plan didn't work, because RoL was green. :p I'd like to hear from Sandroba what he actually said to RoL too, because I'm interested if he actually said you were blue or not, haha.
Also, as far as I remember, none of our hits N0 and N1 were blue snipes either. :p
Somewhere in here the "Slip" is quoted. It's something about Mataza being interested in the sandroba PM plan which was supposed to infer he was blue. It was a PM that was quoted to me. I never even realized it was supposed to be a blue slip/tell.
Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer.
Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago.
With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on.
Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon
Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote:
On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler]
On June 18 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: ...(@DeMorcerf) Tell me who is scum.
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)
wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled.
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.
Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?
Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have.
First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary.
That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia.
Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol.
Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it.
I didn't really sheep his accusation though. I was just the first one to say your "trap" wasn't going to work and stuck my vote on YM cause there was an analysis, and because it was made by RoL. Those two points were important to me, because I knew RoL was going to flip green/blue, so by sticking my vote on the person he made an analysis on, I made myself look aligned with him. At least that's how I see it. Unfortunately, it was a lot of the lurkers who sheeped, and ended up voting with RoL, and actually killing YM.
In the end, your plan didn't work, because RoL was green. :p I'd like to hear from Sandroba what he actually said to RoL too, because I'm interested if he actually said you were blue or not, haha.
Also, as far as I remember, none of our hits N0 and N1 were blue snipes either. :p
Somewhere in here the "Slip" is quoted. It's something about Mataza being interested in the sandroba PM plan which was supposed to infer he was blue. It was a PM that was quoted to me. I never even realized it was supposed to be a blue slip/tell.
Oh, haha. So tat actually is what the slip was supposed to be? Not very strong then, as far as laying a trap goes :p
Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer.
Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago.
With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on.
Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon
Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote:
On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler]
On June 18 2011 08:45 aidnai wrote: ...(@DeMorcerf) Tell me who is scum.
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)
wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled.
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.
Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?
Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have.
First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary.
That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia.
Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol.
Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it.
I didn't really sheep his accusation though. I was just the first one to say your "trap" wasn't going to work and stuck my vote on YM cause there was an analysis, and because it was made by RoL. Those two points were important to me, because I knew RoL was going to flip green/blue, so by sticking my vote on the person he made an analysis on, I made myself look aligned with him. At least that's how I see it. Unfortunately, it was a lot of the lurkers who sheeped, and ended up voting with RoL, and actually killing YM.
In the end, your plan didn't work, because RoL was green. :p I'd like to hear from Sandroba what he actually said to RoL too, because I'm interested if he actually said you were blue or not, haha.
Also, as far as I remember, none of our hits N0 and N1 were blue snipes either. :p
Somewhere in here the "Slip" is quoted. It's something about Mataza being interested in the sandroba PM plan which was supposed to infer he was blue. It was a PM that was quoted to me. I never even realized it was supposed to be a blue slip/tell.
Oh, haha. So tat actually is what the slip was supposed to be? Not very strong then, as far as laying a trap goes :p
You tell me. There are a lot of "ifs" and "buts" to it. I will never again just believe someone he did something, because he says so.
just don't lay traps like that if you're vet, do what RoL did and make yourself the center of town with people masoning you
if you really want to make a trap, make it OBVIOUS, it really is a poor trap because it relies on someone catching onto a HINT
i basically knew BC was scum as soon as RoL told me about his exchanges with BC (after i died) but obviously i couldn't say anything to him, it still shocks me that RoL didn't see it
what i learnt from this game: 1. policy lynches should become more of a norm in public games seeing as lurkers get away with everything 2. tunneling is terrible, i mean i was pressuring/tunneling but with only 48 hours to decide who to lynch, even though i moved my vote away my pressure votes/analyses basically became the actual lynch just because there was usually only one other person to lynch who was just as bad of a lynch as the one i started oh and RoL just tunneled to the death which was obviously bad 3. stop using pm land as 99% of the game, if pm land was a country then BC would be dictator of the world 4. i suck (and so do you)
also did the mafia hit sandroba and mataza out of sheer coincidence?
I've resolved to make a list of lurkers, every game, and if they're still inactive by day three, pushing for their lynches in alphabetical order until they're all dead.
I'm just waiting for the sweet day when I get vigilante. Hell, I'd murder the lurkers as the serial killer, just for the satisfaction. I could claim vig when I eventually hit mafia and get instant mega town cred...
Seriously though, lurkers have lost almost half the games I've played in for town, either directly or indirectly. They do us a disservice if they're town. If you're going to post once per day and make a vote, you're not actually playing, and you'd get the same experience from letting somebody else play in your spot and just watching.
If you find that you can't manage to be active and contribute, get yourself replaced so that when lylo comes it won't be one active player getting run around in circles by the entire scumteam.
EPT
