Okay, I've read the two cases on hiro protagonist and RoL's case on syllogism again. I still believe that aidnai's case on hiro is a tad stronger, but it is mostly because of hiro's alleged scumslip. RoL's case is not extremely convincing, although I agree that syllogism is a bit suspicious.

Looking solely on the cases, I think that hiro protagonist should be the better lynch. However, I feel that hiro's defense has been really solid, and looking at the last few pages, he seems to be town. That is what makes this decision for me.

##Vote syllogism.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 21 2011 18:03 GMT

#904

@RoL
Mataza's case is not shit. Enough of your god damn bullshit. Even though I thought you were town at first, I've had it with your pissy attitude and my vote is on you. The chance of those hits being carried out by someone other than you is so microscopic that you're as good as confirmed red at this point.

@Varpulis & VisceraEyes
Decent analyses. There is a fair chance that one or both of them are scum, but RoL is a safer lynch target. They might be good vig targets, but that talk can wait until night falls.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 22 2011 13:03 GMT

#1006

@Mataza
Can't you get the message where Sandroba told RoL that you're blue from Sandroba? Or would that be considered cheating now that he's dead?

I am taking my vote off of RoL for now. If his claim is true then it would be very detrimental for us to kill him.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 22 2011 14:19 GMT

#1010

Well, that bolded part should not even be considered a breadcrumb...

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Sweden701 Posts

June 22 2011 19:48 GMT

#1030

Yes, claiming vig won't really help much at all.

Call me gullible or stupid, but I'm starting to lean more and more toward not lynching RoL. I have had this feeling all game long that he was blue or green.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 22 2011 22:08 GMT

#1055

Okay. I have finally made up my mind now. I've had the feeling that RoL is town the entire game. When Mataza presented his plan I was quite convinced that RoL was scum, but after hearing all of the veterans' critique of it I have decided to go with my initial gut feeling. I believe that RoL is town, so I will vote for the only other current lynch target.

##Vote youngminii

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Sweden701 Posts

June 23 2011 00:14 GMT

#1075

@opz
If you check out my posts, you can see that I've had the feeling that RoL was town for the entire game. I didn't like his attitude, but he seemed to be town nonetheless. At first I voted him because I thought that mataza's plan was bulletproof, and I thought RoL couldn't be other than scum. I then learned that it wasn't.

As for YM I don't really have an opinion on YM, I am not voting him because I am particulary suspicious of him, but because I think he is more likely to be scum than RoL.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 23 2011 00:15 GMT

#1076

EBWOP: YM should be him. I'm so tired.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 23 2011 18:33 GMT

#1191

On June 24 2011 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's because that's as far as the plan went. There was no bigger picture. Yes, it's true, -1 Medic would mean it's LIKELY that a double-stack of Mafia hits COULD have killed him. But let's assume there's 1 medic. Aside from Mataza's claim, have any other Vets come forward? No? Then it's possible that RoL would live. Not to mention how much protection he ASSURED for himself the whole game. The ultimate plan was to LYNCH RoL, because that's the only way to kill him for certain. No PRs interfering, nothing to stop them. Only a bunch of noobs who do what they're told.

Would YOU pass up an opportunity like that?

I still find it very unlikely that mafia went through with an intricate plan like this for the sole purpose of getting RoL killed. The only way that he'd survive the night if mafia stacked 2 KP on him is if he is either a vet with one medic protecting him, or a regular townie with two medics protecting him (assuming this setup contains 3 medics) and I don't think there's a high probability of either of these being true. I mean, after D2's townie lynch that RoL pushed plus his bad attitude during D1, I don't see why there would be medics protecting him over the other vets/more contributing people.

I actually think that the chance of getting RoL killed by carrying out this plan is drastically lower than the chances of killing him by stacking 2 KP on him.
Also, I think GGQ touched on a quite good point: why would Mataza not fabricate Sandroba's blueslip to RoL if he wanted him killed so badly? No one except RoL and Mataza could know for sure what Sandroba said to him (RoL). If RoL called his bluff then Mataza could simply say that he was lying because he was being accused.

To be frank, I also think that you're being a bit too paranoid.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 23 2011 19:47 GMT

#1201

On June 24 2011 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whether or not it's true does not discount its possibility, the possibility I'm postulating Mafia were trying to avoid. The fact that it's possible lends to PROVE the credibility of my statement, not disprove it.

I don't really get what you're saying.
Maybe I am misunderstanding something (English is not my native tongue), can you reiterate it in other words?

Of course the scenario that you presented is possible, I just said that I don't think it's plausible.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 12:08 GMT

#1249

Eventful night.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 13:48 GMT

#1252

I don't like brawling.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 13:49 GMT

#1253

And as far as I'm concerned, you're only the boy who allegedly survived, right?

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 14:16 GMT

#1255

I don't really doubt you being a vet. I liked your Harry Potter reference though. I'm going to celebrate midsummer with my family in a little bit, but I will be back later tonight.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 19:59 GMT

#1260

All right guys, I'm back. Thread has moved at an incredible rate when I was gone.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 20:00 GMT

#1261

EBWOP: My English sucks.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 21:26 GMT

#1266

^I thought that was exactly what it was. I don't really think this is the best way to decide on today's lynch though.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 22:01 GMT

#1268

I think you know the reason as to why we don't speak as much as you guys. Don't be silly.

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 22:16 GMT

#1270

And that's when people accuse you for making "contentless posts".

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Sweden701 Posts

June 24 2011 23:03 GMT

#1274

My opinion? I've given you my opinion on every fucking lynch we've had.
Is there any way to view the entire thread in one page when it has grown this large? If there is, I can write up something about one of the lurkers. If not... the hell with it.

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