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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:52 Scamp wrote: You give me one good example of this happening in a previous mafia game or I vote for your lynch day 1. One of the regular games, I cant remember which. 36 or 37 maybe? jackal and ver used PMs to work together hunting the scum team. Near the end, they determined in PM that deconduo was probably the godfather, but they acted in the thread like they thought deconduo was innocent, giving him a false sense of security. Before they died, they revealed the truth and deconduo was lynched, winning town the game. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:49 sandroba wrote: @wiggles I described this scenario on my original plan. If I'm mafia 1)I'm risking to be insta outed by a DT check 2)If I lie and claim someone checked me, if there is a DT who actually checked me (which I have no way of knowing since he won't mason me if I return red) he can istantly out me as mafia. So no, in that scenario there is no possible bad outcome for town. Pick GF. Say that a DT checked you as green. No other DT in his right mind will counter-claim, as he will have seen the same thing, or he wouldn't have checked you in the first place. All blues claim to you. You're mafia. Claim green. It's a gamble, but if no DT checks you, then you get all the dumb blues claiming to you. If a DT did check you, then he needs to counter-claim. Worst-case scenario for scum is a 1 to 1 trade with a DT. No. It's a bad plan for town. | ||
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Pondo
Australia283 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:50 Scamp wrote: Oh hey I made it on a list. Did sandroba say that it discourages mafia from killing people on the list? Because I'm pretty sure BC said for medics to protect people not on the list, thus the people who are on the list are wide open. The way I understand it; Its suppose to protect the vet townies on the list because if the mafia lynch one then it draws more attention to the remaining people on the list (some of which may be mafia). I really don't think that its worth it though. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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Pondo
Australia283 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I think the point, is that there's likely to be one, if not more, mafia on the list. Then, as people on the list die, the others start to look more suspicious. Mafia might not want to shoot into the list, as it outs their own members. As well, I believe it's mostly for putting pressure on the people who figure on the list, as they are expected to contribute to town, and will be scrutinized. Why is it more likely for those 8 than opposed to any other random set of 8 players? I can agree with the whole focusing our attention on players to get more information out of it but thats about it. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
@Pondo Games are usually balanced around the players aswel, so there's a very high chance there is at least 2 mafia amongst those 8. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 14 2011 14:01 Pondo wrote: Why is it more likely for those 8 than opposed to any other random set of 8 players? I can agree with the whole focusing our attention on players to get more information out of it but thats about it. The list I gave is a list of the most experienced players in this game. This forces alot of pressure on us to A) be active B) because we have to be more active we give more information that would show our alignment These are the two most important steps. There are other bits that would go along with it, but forcing us to be active and perform is huge. Finding the mafia among the vets while keeping as many of the town ones alive is hugely beneficial and makes it alot harder for mafia to easily pick townie vets. This does not extend into long periods of the game. It is only really good night 0 and possibly night 1 based on how day 1 goes. | ||
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Pondo
Australia283 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:58 Pondo wrote: The way I understand it; Its suppose to protect the vet townies on the list because if the mafia lynch one then it draws more attention to the remaining people on the list (some of which may be mafia). I really don't think that its worth it though. Wrong. It's meant to force veteran players to prove that they're pro-town by exposing them to extra scrutiny, and protect the vets because mafia on the list will be under even more scrutiny if one of them gets night killed. It's a great idea, just something to keep in the back of your mind while playing. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 14 2011 14:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I propose a representative newbie be placed on the list and nominate myself or Mataza or both. why? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + ..........I just want to feel special. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On June 14 2011 14:15 flamewheel wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNTcZOpZ7c ![[image loading]](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cat_proximity.png) First, I mostly agree with the Zodiac List, with the possible inclusion of GGQ. Second, everyone please be hella careful about what you post for the rest of Night 0. Mafia has nothing to work with for their first kills, unlike most games, which start on Day 1. The last thing we need is to give them a quick blue read. In fact, I highly recommend that everyone wait to mason until at least Day 1, otherwise you run the risk of your PM buddy being popped before either of you can do something useful. Remember, if you think he's worth talking to this early, the mafia probably feels the same way. Third, can we please for once avoid the clusterfuck town that we've had for the past few games? Everyone who hasn't, go read the first ten or so pages of Pick Their Power Mafia and XL. This is exactly what we don't want. It's an environment where the mafia thrives, skating by on minimum contributions while the town tears itself apart on threads of suspicion. Try to say a lot with a little, and try to focus on one or two suspects at a time instead of posting big lists of pro-town and "maybe scum" reads. (see Qatol's advice here) | ||
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
GL Hf everyone! | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Why are we masoning ROL? I feel as if the PM system in this game is designed to create an information network that can (and most definitely will) be infiltrated by mafia if used incorrectly. That said, I won't be masoning anyone anytime soon. | ||
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
I thought your supposed to make sure that the person you mason is actually trustworthy rather than just mason who ever has the most posts or the biggest... I mean who knows? You may be masoning Mafia straight away which is kinda a waste because they may not talk back to you... -_- | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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