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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 13 2011 20:12 GMT
#1361
On June 14 2011 05:08 teamsolid wrote:
Yea, I've gotta agree with TranceStorm, it's looking like Blackone and Aprudds are the last two mafia.

Feel free to gg if I'm right

Unless we've got a mole in iGrok votes
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 13 2011 20:18 GMT
#1362
On June 13 2011 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The town was screaming for blood, scum blood. After a the arguments went round and round a concensus was finally established. grush57 was to be lynched! As the hood was put over grush's head the town screamed "any last words scum?" A slow smile spread across grush's face. "You got lucky fools" he sneered. The town cheered at these words and yelled "no luck here!" The trap door was sprung and red blood flowed in the streets.

grush57 the mafia roleblocker has been killed

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions to Varpulis and me

Was grush Roleblocker or Goon,because the first page(the roster) says he was a Mafia Goon?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
June 13 2011 21:52 GMT
#1363
On June 14 2011 04:15 TranceStorm wrote:
I'm posting here a couple of select quotes from the posters that teamsolid listed earlier:

Blackone:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 10 2011 06:47 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:27 Impervious wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:21 blackone wrote:
I have nothing new to contribute to the accusations against amazingxkcd and I don't see the need for making a post with "hey guys, just so you know, gonna vote amazingxkcd now".

That's a terrible mentality.

Even if you have nothing new to contribute, at least post your thoughts and say why you're voting for him. In the long run, if everyone was to do that, it'll be much easier to determine who is scum.


Ok, I see how that's useful. Before the voting incident on rookie 44, xkcd was posting a whole lot of nothing. Seeming kind of active, but not really accusing anybody. The only thing of notice he did was his little skirmish with kurumi. After that, when attention was starting to be focused on him, he defended himself by arguing about insignificances and attacking people that attacked him. People aren't satisfied and he posts his giant ass analysis of everybody except iGrok, where he spends thousands of words paraphrasing every single post in this thread, managing to not defend himself in 200,000 words or whatever it was.
I do believe that iGrok is probably gf, but since a lot of that case revolves around him trying super hard to be a good townie while the roles of townie and gf are hard to seperate from the outside, and gf could be also very well be jackal or somebody completely different, I think we have a stronger case on xkcd. That's why I voted for him.

And kurumi, I appreciate your effort calling possible bandwagoning mafias out, but seriously, wtf. There's no way to appropriately respond to your accusations (mainly „HAHA YOU ANSWERED THAT MEANS YOU'RE SCUM). Especially your pseudo(?)-“i'll shoot you“-roleclaim. I have no idea how you could think that's useful.


Very interesting statement here. Blackone justifies his vote for xkcd over iGrok but also says that "I do believe that iGrok is probably gf" and has a pretty convoluted reason for preferring xkcd. Given that targeting the godfather should be a higher priority than regular mafia, this seems a quite suspicious to me. However, this could be Blackone's way of saying "both are suspicious, but I think xkcd is more so" (I thought that way too, but I thought iGrok was more so).

Exactly, I said I believed iGrok was probably gf, but I was pretty sure xkcd was mafia, and sure mafia kill > possible gf kill. I was wrong with that assumption, but that's what I meant.

On June 14 2011 04:42 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 19:39 blackone wrote:
On June 08 2011 14:18 Pyo wrote:
On June 08 2011 13:54 Treadmill wrote:
On June 08 2011 13:26 Pyo wrote:
Yay!!! I'm alive - wasn't expecting that. Too bad about GGQ, I guess they wanted to take out experienced town. The other hit has me surprised. I'll have to go through his posts and try to figure it out.

So they hit our vet? Or we have another medic who happened to protect the right person. I disagree with Treadmill. If you were medic saved or vet, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING!!!! Keep them guessing whether you are the vet or whether we have a third medic. Town doesn't need to know that information only mafia would want you to reveal yourself. Treadmill just outed himself as scum.


Bullshit. The mafia already know who the third target was. That person coming forward doesn't say anything about whether he was saved by being a vet or by a medic (in fact, its a good point, Pyo, to emphasize that whoever got shot shouldn't say anything on the matter). I just think town knowing what the mafia knows is a good thing.


Yeah, you're definitely scum. Since you're scum, you aren't approaching it as townie would.

If it was a vet that got hit, there's nothing to exploit. no strategies can be used.
If it is a medic, then we're in luck and we have options available to us. But if mafia know that we have that medic, then they will go medic hunting.

Now it is undoubtedly a good thing for the mafia to not know which one, as it will in the worst case scenario cost them another KP to learn which it is.

However, if the person who survived the hit outs themselves, it can be figured out which it is based on their posting.

As a townie knowing who survived the hit doesn't benefit us in anyway. Not until next night when the next round of DT checks go out. It's not like their analysis of posting becomes any more accurate or informed.

You are wrong, as others have already pointed out. "if the person who survived the hit outs themselves, it can be figured out which it is based on their posting."? How? Mafia already know who it is so they have all of this persons posts to figure his role out, if he makes a post saying "mafia tried to kill me last night", it tells them nothing, while we know their third target. And how does it not benefit us? It helps us as much as knowing who got killed, we get to know who the scum wants to see dead.
Trying to keep this secret is very, very scummy.

On a related note: I don't know if day/night posts can contain information like this, but couldn't the post about GGQs death mean they used two KPs on him?
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2011 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
GGQ was out walking around thinking about the failed lynch. He’d been around the block a few times and was trying to get his thoughts in order for the next day. Suddenly he heard a noise in the bushes, two black figures slipped out. GGQ immediately knew what came next, he’d seen the results many times before. “So this is how it ends?” He asked. His only response was the sinister click of hammers being pulled back. “Well” sighed GGQ laconically, “I’m glad I was thought dangerous enough to kill so early.” Two silenced bullets were his only reply.


I know that kind of contradicts the fist part of my post, but in this case Pyo could just be trying to hide the fact they only tried to kill two people.

Dat nail in da coffin
When someone claims getting hit,the mafia gets no more info,town gets where KP was landed.
When someone claims getting hit and gets healed it means there (!!!) is another medic in the play. That's the info I blew out like an idiot. Mafia wants to know how many medics we have and hunt them.
Sorry guys. But now those puny Rats have a riddle to solve: my life. Have fun trying to kill me,I will happily soak Your KP.

How the fuck is is possible that you still don't understand what I was saying? If somebody would have said "Mafia tried to kill me" they would NOT have known there was a medic, because it could also have been a vet. But knowing that one of their kills was prevented would not have been news for them, because they obviously already knew that they tried to kill some dude who was apparently still living.

If somebody who isn't Kurumi has anything to say about me, I'll gladly answer, it's not necessary we waste our lynch on me.
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 14 2011 04:22 GMT
#1364
*jepeordy music*
THIS NEEDS FACE!
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 14 2011 04:25 GMT
#1365
I'm going to LoL so hard if the remaining mafia members just got themselves modkilled...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 14 2011 05:18 GMT
#1366
when does the night end? it's now 25 hours
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 05:26 GMT
#1367
On June 14 2011 14:18 supersoft wrote:
when does the night end? it's now 25 hours

Its the night without end! Abandon all hope now! Its obvious the town has been cast here for its sins!

*goes back to just reading*
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:31 GMT
#1368
shit, Meapak didn't make the post? PMing people with results of their actions now, Night post coming ASAP.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:42 GMT
#1369
Day 4

[image loading]

This is a clock. Evidently, there are no clocks where the profusely apologetic hosts reside.

Tonight, we lost a valuable member of the town. He was alone when they arrived, two of them, dressed in red. He never stood a chance.

Pyo the Vanilla Townie has been killed


It is now day 4. You must now vote for who to lynch. You have 48 hours.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
June 14 2011 05:44 GMT
#1370
^thats not a clock. Thats only a picture of a clock.

Sad to see you go, Pyo.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2011 05:55 GMT
#1371
Sorry everyone, I was out and didn't anticipate being away so long. Thanks very much to Varpulis for covering me. Sorry again
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 14 2011 06:33 GMT
#1372
Woohoo, I'm finally free of this modkill-ridden game. At least I didn't die from a kurumi-induced aneurysm. GL HF everyone.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 14 2011 07:30 GMT
#1373
hey vigi
you have a fucking gun
use it
jesus christ
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 14 2011 07:52 GMT
#1374
mhm alderan and munk-E should be todays target. sadly i'll write an exam at 7/16... until then i can't contribute too much...
i also think that theblackone is an idiot, but he's town.
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 14 2011 08:59 GMT
#1375
I will post some analysis in the morning. Have the day off so I have lots of time to dig. ;P

My current list of suspects are:

1. Munk-E
2.aprudds
3.Alderan
4.Vain

I was highly suspicious of Treadmill until some of the more recent analysis of him which has made me reconsider.
THIS NEEDS FACE!
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2011 09:07 GMT
#1376
On June 14 2011 05:18 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The town was screaming for blood, scum blood. After a the arguments went round and round a concensus was finally established. grush57 was to be lynched! As the hood was put over grush's head the town screamed "any last words scum?" A slow smile spread across grush's face. "You got lucky fools" he sneered. The town cheered at these words and yelled "no luck here!" The trap door was sprung and red blood flowed in the streets.

grush57 the mafia roleblocker has been killed

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions to Varpulis and me

Was grush Roleblocker or Goon,because the first page(the roster) says he was a Mafia Goon?

grush was a roleblocker, copy paste error on my part
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 14 2011 20:26 GMT
#1377
I was working on an analysis of aprudds after reading some of Munk-Es posts which increased my suspicion of him but after going through his posts he seems like a town to me. I also would like to point out that aprudds (and others) made some good arguments against Drazerk. I would like to see some discussion out of him. For now I will ##Vote: Drazerk until we get some more discussion today.



THIS NEEDS FACE!
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
June 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#1378
EBWODP: Although I voted for Drazerk I really just want him to speak up more. Even though he did vote for iGrok and I cannot see a mafia voting for him with the votes so close Kurumi's points are still valid and we need everyone to contribute so that we can pick out the mafia easier.
THIS NEEDS FACE!
freeloader625
Profile Joined May 2010
United States180 Posts
June 15 2011 02:41 GMT
#1379
On June 14 2011 01:54 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 01:39 Pyo wrote:
A post by TheAwesomeAll in the mafia ban list. From this post it would seem as though mafia like to wait till the last minute to place their votes. Considering lafali also tried doing this (but was too late), I think it might be reasonable to assume that mafia might be doing this as a general policy.

Looking at the voting, there are only 2 people who have been consistently waiting until the last hour to vote: freeloader and Munk-E

freeloader did vote for iGrok, so I'm a little less suspicious of him, but if you combine the late posting with his lurking and his post history, I think Munk-E might be one of the remaining mafia.

post history:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1 - lafali
Day 2 - amazingxkcd
Day 3 - grush57

analysis of freeloader, lafali, aprudds, TheAwesomeAll

goes after lafali

long analysis of amazingxkcd

excuse for not posting


This post by iGrok also adds further suspicion in my opinion. For one, it reveals that Munk-E's accusation of lafali came at a point where a lynch of someone else was inevitable and lafali was about to get modkilled. Also, it is curious that iGrok would respond to this post.

I wonder why freeloader still did not help us in any way.


JUST SAY IT BRO-SKY.

+ Show Spoiler +
After a hard days work, I just want to sit down, relax, read some articles, open a can of Spam and share it with everyone. Is that too much to ask for?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
June 15 2011 06:12 GMT
#1380
Well, this game seems to have dried up fast.

Now that I've thought about it, I think its most likely that the remaining mafia all voted for amazingxkcd on day 2, considering that a single vote could've saved or killed him. So of that list left alive is:
Me
Munk-E
Alderan
blackone
aprudds

I think so long as we stick to lynching people off that list we should be OK.

As for the people:
I know that I'm innocent (and I think it should be clear that I'm innocent given how much the now proven mafia tried to draw attention to me).
Munk-E has been mostly lurking but a lot of people have been doing that this game so it doesn't tell us anything. He accused and voted lafali day one and posted a decent reason why he voted for amazingxkcd which suggests to me that he's more likely innocent.
blackone and aprudds, I can't really get a read on. blackone seems a bit more likely to be scum but that isn't really meaningful.
Alderan seems to me to be most likely scum. Mostly from looking back at day 1:
On June 07 2011 05:56 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 05:47 TranceStorm wrote:
On June 07 2011 05:38 Jackal58 wrote:
You guys want to vote for scum? Vote this guy - rookie44:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9611408

Has played before so he has an idea how it works.
Very subtle in his fishing for blues. Only scum fish for blues.
Wants to know what methods and tactics are used to catch scum.
Wants us to share them with everybody.
Claims it will help derail scum tactics. When it will obviously do the opposite.

Has all but disappeared since this post. I'm sure he'll show up momentarily to tell me how full of shit I am.

That's where my vote is going. I would recommend you all do the same.

Would you mind doing a post-by-post analysis of rookie44's posts? (There are only 3) Right now I can't really see how subtly he is fishing for blues. After all, we don't know how experienced he really is, so I would like a little more clarification as to your accusation.


Wait so you're saying instead of voting for new players being dumb you suggest us to vote for a player who has never played before on the forums (admittedly so) for suggesting that veteran players toss out potential strategies?

Sure it's a LITTLE scummy, but until I see some elaboration on your "very subtle in fishing for blues" I'm going to have to disagree with you.

On June 07 2011 06:16 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 06:03 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 07 2011 05:56 Alderan wrote:
On June 07 2011 05:47 TranceStorm wrote:
On June 07 2011 05:38 Jackal58 wrote:
You guys want to vote for scum? Vote this guy - rookie44:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9611408

Has played before so he has an idea how it works.
Very subtle in his fishing for blues. Only scum fish for blues.
Wants to know what methods and tactics are used to catch scum.
Wants us to share them with everybody.
Claims it will help derail scum tactics. When it will obviously do the opposite.

Has all but disappeared since this post. I'm sure he'll show up momentarily to tell me how full of shit I am.

That's where my vote is going. I would recommend you all do the same.

Would you mind doing a post-by-post analysis of rookie44's posts? (There are only 3) Right now I can't really see how subtly he is fishing for blues. After all, we don't know how experienced he really is, so I would like a little more clarification as to your accusation.


Wait so you're saying instead of voting for new players being dumb you suggest us to vote for a player who has never played before on the forums (admittedly so) for suggesting that veteran players toss out potential strategies?

Sure it's a LITTLE scummy, but until I see some elaboration on your "very subtle in fishing for blues" I'm going to have to disagree with you.

You his scum buddy?


Just pointing out that I think your analysis is just as weak or weaker than all the others. Let's see how he responds.

On June 07 2011 09:55 Alderan wrote:
I will be voting for Rookie based on his answers to being called out. While I don't think he is the highest percentage (I'd give him about 10%) chance of hitting a scum, I think that he will do nothing but waste a DT or a future and more costly lynch if he remains in the game.

Honestly there are a couple people I'd like to vote for, but the decision is made infinitely more difficult based on the fact that all the ones in question are likely only in question for being new to the game and very lazy. If we have to hit a town let's make it a lazy scummy looking one.

##Vote Rookie44


His turnaround from voting amazingxkcd to voting rookie44 seems really fast, and poorly explained. He also never addressed the notion that rookie44 might've been a newb blue, despite posting a few times after that argument came up. The second quote is a little defensive for an attack that doesn't deserve it. Also he was the only guy to switch from xkcd to rookie44 when there was some effort to switch the other way.

As well, he was arguing day two that if we still had a medic they should definitely not heal jackal, cause the mafia wouldn't possibly kill jackal - and that night, the mafia hit jackal.

There are some other reasons to be suspicious that others have posted, but basically, I'm voting Alderan.
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