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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 22:26 GMT
#807
Can we stop talking about your awful plan now? It's wasting time and energy, is all you've talked about, and can't even be implemented so all this talk of it is pointless.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 22:38 GMT
#814
Oh and Amber's Zodiac list
Wiggles
GM
Sandroba
kita
bum
visceraeyes
BC
Meapak
Dropbear
Jackal

Cesar Milan at your service :D
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:03 GMT
#818
I asked him if he had any reads he wanted to tell me or anything he wanted to contribute and i copy and pasted a player list. He quoted someone saying zodiac list and bolded the zodiac list part, and then bolded a bunch of players on the player list he quoted from me. I asked him if he wanted me to post his zodiac list and he wiggled his tail.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:15 GMT
#825
On May 31 2011 21:44 Mataza wrote:
No problem. I don´t vote yet, because I don´t intend to vote more than once.
I looked into 5 people who gave me a strange gut feeling, and only kitaman actually kept giving me that after rereading.
Its a pretty weak case, and I consider his role and his meta behaviour to be possible explanations. I can´t truly judge his meta behaviour, but his responses are unsatisfactory so far.

That´s all there is to it from my side.


On May 31 2011 22:28 Mataza wrote:
Well Jackal, because an opinion is a fickle thing.
Every little thing you read influences it. It may change several times a day.
A vote, on the other hand, is a big commitment to me. It is my sign of dedication towards my opinion. It won´t move that easily, and therefore placing my vote should have a greater impact.

Mataza, you have posted nothing of use this game. And you saying you are voting me until Amber wiggles his tail to confirm i posted his list is a huge contradiction to something you seemed pretty steadfast on before. So you are certain I'm scum and won't change your vote?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:16 GMT
#827
Also I think Mataza is scum and would be voting him right now if i could change. I've stated why before he voted me and that vote combined with his previous posts about his attitude to voting has made him even scummier in my eyes.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:27 GMT
#832
On June 01 2011 08:21 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 08:15 redFF wrote:
On May 31 2011 21:44 Mataza wrote:
No problem. I don´t vote yet, because I don´t intend to vote more than once.
I looked into 5 people who gave me a strange gut feeling, and only kitaman actually kept giving me that after rereading.
Its a pretty weak case, and I consider his role and his meta behaviour to be possible explanations. I can´t truly judge his meta behaviour, but his responses are unsatisfactory so far.

That´s all there is to it from my side.


On May 31 2011 22:28 Mataza wrote:
Well Jackal, because an opinion is a fickle thing.
Every little thing you read influences it. It may change several times a day.
A vote, on the other hand, is a big commitment to me. It is my sign of dedication towards my opinion. It won´t move that easily, and therefore placing my vote should have a greater impact.

Mataza, you have posted nothing of use this game. And you saying you are voting me until Amber wiggles his tail to confirm i posted his list is a huge contradiction to something you seemed pretty steadfast on before. So you are certain I'm scum and won't change your vote?


I am very suspicious of your list, because Sandroba is on the list.
Amber is voting Sandroba right now. I thought I bolded that part.


This list is a direct contradiction to Ambers vote.

I thought we had gone through the whole "is he even pming amber" deal. Also, stop and think for a minute, why would I make up some random Zodiac list for Amber lol???? He could just *grrr* at it in the thread and then i would be screwed...You voted me for a stupid pointless reason, you're trying to start/join in on a potential bandwagon of me and it isn't going to work. You have contributed nothing to this game and you just made a huge contradiction because you spent so much time explaining how important a vote was and how you would only cast it when you felt you were certain and how you wouldnt change your vote because it is serious etc... And then you vote for a reason like that. Sorry scummy but you're in trouble...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:32 GMT
#835
On June 01 2011 08:30 sandroba wrote:
I dissagree with you wholeheartedly Jackal. Building a case to lynch torte de lini would boil down to he's being useless. Player's would argue that he's noob town or mafia and it would take us nowhere since it's very hard to tell those appart unless the noobtown is actually posting opinions and being useful. Vig shotting this kind of players is very useful to town, specially if you have to shoot day1 and don't have a very strong scum read on anyone else. Pushing for scummy players to be lynched is better than to vig shot them because it generates discussion and out more mafia. Vig shots are better saved for people you are very sure are mafia and for players that can't be read and are lurking/being useless.

I'm amazed you have no scum-reads after everything that has happened today...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:48 GMT
#842
On June 01 2011 08:39 Mataza wrote:
Also there is the logistics part of this list. Amber has last posted around 1:00 Teamliquid time.
That´s 7 hours ago.
I know you were online at least 5 hours ago in irc and also continuously from 2 hours ago to about 1 hour ago. As from time of this post, you posted the list about 1 hour ago.

Either Amber just came online just a bit before you posted the list, or the list should have been in you pm box for several hours, during which you were online and did not post it.

sigh..Do i really have to explain this to you. My memory is foggy and i really can't be bothered to convert korean times to eastern but ill try to explain.
Last night I pm'd amber with a list of players and asked him to quote the list and wiggle his tail for town and grr for scum. He then quoted a post by gm about zodiac lists, bolded the zodiac list part and then bolded a bunch of player lists. I checked my pm's early this morning before I went out and saw what he did. I got home at like 4:30 today and went on irc, so i've been on irc for about 3 and a half hours...(its 8 now) I pm'd amber for confirmation that he wanted me to post his zodiac list and he wiggled his tail, so i did...Please stop lol.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 31 2011 23:52 GMT
#845
See Sandroba you haven't really contributed much either.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#859
Hey sandroba since you have voted for both me and Tackster at one point today why not vigi us over Torte?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 02:41 GMT
#906
Yeah sandroba is just playing kind of bad but I don't think he is scum. My top scum read is Mataza by far. He is the best lynch imo, i can see where people are coming from with Tackster though, i would be fine with that.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 11:35 GMT
#978
O.K now Mataza has soft-defended both Tackster and Varpulis. He has not contributed anything so far. Mataza if you actually read my post i wasn't sure what time everything happened but what I said makes sense if you actually read it. Because of that soft-defend of tackster im happy for him to be lynched.
Scum reads-
Tackster
Mataza
Varpulis(not sure, his posting has improved)

and now i'm off be back in like 6 hours :D
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 11:47 GMT
#979
Ok more on Mataza, because I feel he is being largely ignored. He hasn't contributed at all, all his posts are textbook scum trying to blend in. He just soft-defended Tackster, who most of you think is scum.
He also voted me because Amber hasn't confirmed his zodiac list, and that has been all Mataza has posted about before then. This vote goes directly against what he said earlier about his vote meaning something and how he only intended to vote once. If you are going to talk like that then you surely can't place a vote with as little reasoning and thought than the one you put on me. You're making obvious contradictions and contributing nothing.
Mataza is scum!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 20:06 GMT
#1091
On June 01 2011 23:27 Mataza wrote:
Amber is back and able to post. Apparently he just didn´t get to post yesterday. Fine.
What doesn´t sit well with me is that redff immediately put FoS on me and anyone I have defended in his eyes. Or that he apologized with hazy memory of the then recent last 3 hours.

And now Kurumi is at it again >.<


You are scum because you have contributed nothing. You talked about lists, about dogs, then you tunneled me for no reason with horrible evidence. I was just noticing out loud who you have been softly defending is all.

Since amber wiggled his tail at me can you please drop you stupid "fos" on me please. All it is doing is spamming up the thread with nonsense. I'm sorry i don't remember my exact thought process from 2 nights ago. I explained everything i had done up to that point for you(i probably shouldn't have even done that it was such a waste of time).

You still haven't explained your huge contradiction here.
On May 31 2011 21:44 Mataza wrote:
No problem. I don´t vote yet, because I don´t intend to vote more than once.
I looked into 5 people who gave me a strange gut feeling, and only kitaman actually kept giving me that after rereading.
Its a pretty weak case, and I consider his role and his meta behaviour to be possible explanations. I can´t truly judge his meta behaviour, but his responses are unsatisfactory so far.

That´s all there is to it from my side.


On May 31 2011 22:28 Mataza wrote:
Well Jackal, because an opinion is a fickle thing.
Every little thing you read influences it. It may change several times a day.
A vote, on the other hand, is a big commitment to me. It is my sign of dedication towards my opinion. It won´t move that easily, and therefore placing my vote should have a greater impact.

Where you explicitly state that voting is a sign of commitment from you blahblahblah

and then you vote for me like this

On June 01 2011 08:07 Mataza wrote:
Huh, what?
I thought Amber could only bark and tailwag.

And then I question Viscera being on it. Maybe that is because I know him from last game.
But he said at one point he is picking up no scumread and he is just waiting for something big happening.

I´m not aware of a reason he should be on the fabled zodiac list, let alone Sandroba which Amber voted for.
On second thought, why the HELL is Sandroba on Ambers list?

I assume this to be a lie until Amber barks personally.
##vote redff

I bolded the important part, you vote me because you think I'm lying about it? Why would I lie??? HE COULD JUST GRR AT ME IN THE THREAD AND THEN IM IN TROUBLE AIN'T I LOL???
When you make those statements about your voting and then you vote like that its very suspicious.

On June 02 2011 03:50 Mataza wrote:
cba to read now, I just want to announce I strongly consider voting tnkted just to confirm his invulnerability claim.
Claiming it stops it from absorbing any kp, therefore reducing the usefulness of the role.

Ok lol now you're considering voting the guy who claimed invincibility. I'm not saying he isn't scum, but lynching him just to make sure his ability works is really really stupid...If you think he is scum post up an analysis, but there is no way i am potentially wasting a lynch and getting nothing out of it apart from knowing tnkted is unlynchable thanks.

Just a question for people who have played with Mataza before. Is he good? Or is he just bad and doesn't really contribute ever?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 20:32 GMT
#1112
On June 02 2011 05:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi stfu for 10 minutes.

redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 20:40 GMT
#1117
On June 02 2011 05:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Thank you Palmar.
Carry on Kurumi.
No offense intended.

Jackal what do you think of Mataza? What do you think of me? Is Tackster the correct lynch?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 20:49 GMT
#1136
How is wanting to Lynch BC in itself is a scumtell? Yes he is good, but if you think someone is scum then you try to get them lynched lol. ALso happy birthday BC! :D
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 20:56 GMT
#1156
On June 02 2011 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town Veteran Zombie Targetting BC

Your move Mafia.

... If you are zombie please dont shoot BC, there is little evidence he is mafia. Shoot mataza please, or tackster, or varpulis.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 21:01 GMT
#1168
On June 02 2011 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm absolved...I'm suspicious of BC, no one is giving me any reason not to be. He's my target. I guess I'm not as good at this game as you guys, but that doesn't make me scum. Yet you kill me. That's cool. But it's also not my fault.

didnt you rage in mini mafia 2 as well? You didn't play very well if you are town, accept it and move on. Don't randomly shoot the most experienced player in the game because you have a vague suspicion he is scum.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 01 2011 21:06 GMT
#1180
On June 02 2011 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I guess I'm just a loose cannon. I'm still playing the game, but everyone wants me dead. Time's up.

haha great job dude shooting a random townie who you are mad at. And yes i checked super normal and you got mad there too. calm down
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