EPThave played game like this long time ago, totally love the bnet map tho
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have played game like this long time ago, totally love the bnet map tho | ||
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Im new to this game so I just want to stand up and say hello ! as for the suspicion above, hope Mataza can explain himself - its kind of dangerous to be to triggerhappy as well? | ||
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yeah, sorry, my bad english right there - he was not the one i was calling triggerhappy - was rather pointing out that it would be kinda stupid to accuse someone after one single post - but as i see he pointed that out himself at the same time i posted!hope more people will show face before end of day!  - more arguments = better arguments = more fun game! | ||
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My vote is based on thoughts around that and what other people have been saying. short time to voting end? - im in eu timezone and a bit confused ##Vote Giygas | ||
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After reading all the conversation going on in this town today it seems like a lot of assumptions are based on very weak clues and 'quotes' from one day work - I myself find it a bit hard to draw grande conclusions about whos being who as for now - I have really no good idea of how to make myself 'cleared' of suspicion right now, except from trying to post something about how I think right now | ||
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else: nice to see a mafia lynch first day - if it was luck or good thinking by us, right now, who knows? As for now I'm a bit suspicious about everybody | ||
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What I need to decide for myself is if the first day scum takeout was a lucky shot or an action on behalf of good reasoning - I'm not sure, especially after reading all the posts from the night. if the next actions are based on who would gain from the mafia and the kill was random - the assumptions also would be random? but if the scumkill on d1 was correctly executed - whos 'main opponent' in the discussion did get taken out? Im also sorry for few posts, but you guys really are tearing the posts here apart - and its not always that much to add on - and to see the big lines of 'whos following who' I probably need another vote! Looking forward to the analysis of my posts | ||
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At least some of them - silent killers vs loudmouth misdirectionleaders ? This game requires so much thinking ;-) | ||
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Wunder: within 14 hours I think (03 or 0400 Norwegian time) ;-p as for today my suspicion for Mataza has grown a bit, mainly because of the sudden urge for people to start calling roles - noone would benefit from that just after one night? (except scums ofcourse) - if there are cop/doc they are more benefitial after a few "scans" etc - atleast thats what I would guess? Mataza has since the start been quite "loud" but has loudly acted on the behalf of 'town' as far as I see - if this is an act, how can it be proven to be an act? Did scum 'sac' one first night? or did they just fail at random. It seems like a strange decision - if Mataza voted for GiygaS - and then the (rest) mafias voted for skrammen - their plan already failed right there? If this is just random - well - Im confused hiro and prplhz are both also a bit under my suspicion - mainly because of their votes (as someone noted before) - we can see how GiygaS voted for skrammen and them following. BUT its also noteworth that Karshe also voted for skrammen - though he was town -which kind of proves that votingpattern isnt bound to make that player scum or town, we are individuals - and we think differently, tho its easy to be drawn into long analysis of what I myself would call fairly little data. I really hope there are roleblockers/doc/cop/something in this game - and I really hope noone claimes the roles yet - atleast not before they are used enough to win the game (atleast for town part) | ||
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Role setup + Show Spoiler + Set Up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town. 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town. 1) Now it has been enough time to relatively safely assume we have no cop in the game. If this is true, it means we have 1 doc and no roleblockers ingame. But prplhz claimed to have been roleblocked. @Mataza How can we realtively safely assume we have no cop? - its been one night? - one "scan" pr night - if the cop made a scan on a townie last night - how would we know the cop doesnt exist? (or maybe he just shuts up until he has checked out more players (he should) :p I also have a question for everybody, what exactly is the mafias roleblocker role if theres no detective/doctor? Happy huntin! | ||
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Im voting this just because it seems like the same guys targeting Skrammen are now the same guys targeting Mataza hiro and Prplhz, going Prplhz just because Im more suspicius of him GL##Vote Prplhz | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 18:01 VisceraEyes -> stefftastiq 18:59 Palmar -> DeepBlue2 19:54 DeepBlue2 -> GiygaS 01:00 Mataza -> GiygaS 01:39 VisceraEyes -> () 02:48 Skrammen -> GiygaS 07:25 GiygaS -> Skrammen 07:35 prplhz -> Skrammen 07:51 VisceraEyes -> prplhz 09:01 VisceraEyes -> () 09:01 VisceraEyes -> GiygaS 09:05 Karshe -> Skrammen 09:48 hiro protagonist -> Skrammen 09:56 Wunder -> Skrammen 09:58 stefftastiq -> GiygaS 10:08 nard -> Skrammen 10:55 prplhz -> () 10:55 prplhz -> GiygaS 11:00 Voting ends if we compare these votingpatterns to the last voting patterns, we can se that both prplhz, hard and hiro protaganist teamed up on skrammen - they now team up on Mataza (with Skrammen randomly teaming up because of his looks upon Mataza) This is solely based on how the voting looked at the last lynch, compared to this one (as far as recall) - ofcourse other people voted as well - but they havent voted yet  | ||
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Why do you trust Deepblu2 ? | ||
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if Mataza would show up to be scum - well, we will see that later, and maybe we might be fooled no more. If the remaining mafia would be hiro, prplz and mataza - of those three mataza are the one i least believe is mafia - so it would be no problem saving his lynch for later giving him more time to prove he is not. - as for both of the other players more people have made up an opinion those in between and spread themselves on the two of them instead of all of 'townies' vote for the same. This is exciting :-) | ||
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True - I just feel like Mataza is being lynched based on the wrong accusations - but I guess we will see soon | ||
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##Vote hiro protagonist ok - rethought some things! gl | ||
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Yeah, i know - makes me looks like a undecisive schmuck or something - I just vote in that order I would like to see people lynched - who knows, others could have changed too :-p If Mataza shows up to be Mafia it would just be "two more steps" down the road for my "hit list" for lynsjing - if he shows up to be townie tho Ill probably regret writing this post ;-p - But then a lot more people would be wrong too soo this is exciting | ||
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Of the 6 people who voted for GiygaS on day1; Mataza and DeepBlu2 voted for prplhz on day2, Skrammen, VisceraEyes and prplhz voted for Mataza on day2, stefftastiq voted for Palmar on day2. oh, that was just a correction for prplz post earlier, didnt realize there were more posts | ||
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Fantastic. I'm pretty staunch on my vote today, so I will throw it out immediately. ##Vote: Palmar From the evidence that VisEyes has presented, it is clear that Palmar is one of the 2 remaining scum and that he was simply waiting for instruction, but prplhz took action and got rid of GiygaS at the last minute. I'm not too sure who the other scum is, but the possibility of it being prplhz or VisEyes is quite high. @Wunder if VisEyesare the other mafia - why should you vote for Palmar, based on his theory? These two sudden votes seems strange :[ | ||
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Vote #1 + Show Spoiler + DeepBlu2 (1) Palmar stefftastiq (0) VisceraEyes GiygaS(6) DeepBlu2 Mataza Skrammen VisceraEyes stefftastiq prplhz Skrammen(5) GiygaS (mafia) prplhz Karshe (dead townie) hiro protagonist Wunder nard prplhz(0) VisceraEyes GiygaS to be lynched, night post incoming Vote #2 + Show Spoiler + Palmar(1) VisceraEyes Wunder Hiro Protagonist(2) Palmar stefftastiq prplhz(2) Mataza DeepBlu2 stefftastiq Mataza(5) nard prplhz hiro protagonist Skrammen VisceraEyes Night 1: Karshe killed (town) Night 2: Deepblu2 killed (town) What I would love someone to do is to compare the voting patterns with the arguments / analysis done in this thread for the last day - I have to go to work myself so no time until the vote tonight. I find it a bit strange of VisceraEyes early votes this day - and how i in both votes have changed votes several times - would especially like some thoughts around these quotes: I live. ##Vote: Palmar ...I'm just getting started! I agree with a vote for Palmar because DeepBlu2 was Palmar's target d1 and it's reasonable to assume that after the mafia missed their suspect for a PR n1 they went for the easiest candidate that suspected them n2. And since DeepBlu2 was suspicious of prplhz, he seems like a safe candidate for lynch d3 if Palmar flips red, for obvious reasons (at least to me...) Just getting started? and then I ask why so early @steff My vote was so sudden because I'm so certain. I assume Wunder feels the same way. I do not encourage you to vote quickly if you're not sure...please take all the time you need to analyze before you vote. But if your decision is to vote someone other than Palmar, I ask that you give a strong argument so that those of us who've already voted have the opportunity to consider your case and change our vote if necessary. As I've stated several times now, I think that voting as a whole is going to be very important to Town winning this thing in the end. and then... ##Unvote Inactivity is now a plague on this town. Who do we vote off first Mafia? I'll accept anyone who's inactive. really? inactivity a plague? does it really seem so? TBH im a bit suspicious about ViscEyes - mainly because of the voting patterns (the changes/following the 'other guys' im suspicious of - and you voted for me for a few seconds - and I know my own role - and who who would want to have me lynched (this is weak ofc)ViscEyes are stil not my 'main' suspect tonight - the others are bolded out in the spoilers. Thoughts which should be considered: Mafia might have tried to lead town in the wrong direction by changing votes / offvoting - and focusing on killing the "right persons" at night, as long as not one of their own is targeted. The players might just have followed the ones they thought were right (both times) - but made wrong choices? - these reasons should really be discussed before tonights votes. I honestly had more thoughts around this, but after writing this post my mind still is confused - but maybe my post will trigger someone elses thoughs around the same questions (hope so). Ill be back after work - hoping for some good reading. | ||
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It seem to start to fit a picture | ||
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- but I wont blame you for being suspicious tho.Im still a bit suspicious abot ViscEyes and how he votes for prplz - I am not that sure about this (it was kind of the same way with mataza - wrong reasons i think... so im going with the same vote as last time - and hoping its red and going through this time ##Vote hiro protagonist | ||
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I do not think your wrong on prplhz - just not sure, cant even say im 100% sure on hiro, but it made sense last lynch - and nothing about it has changed really, while other players have been active. the most scary parts are the votes which might be cast just before voting ends which can swap everything if all mafias are none of the oens who have voted - as far as if hiro or pprplz are the one with the most votes hopefully both of them are red :-p | ||
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Hi! are you experienced player or a noob like some of us? :D @VisceraEyes U lead a 'crusade' against two townies two days in a row - how does it really feel? "Just getting started?" (from your post, you probably remember") @prplz you really think I'm scummy? I was a bit suspicious of you, but not enough to throw my vote with the 'bandwagon' and vote for you, just for the reason that I was not certain enough of whos NOT scum. Its just sad that other players are prioritizing wrong Scum are everywhere - I just hope I live through the night | ||
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Palmar (1) Wunder VisceraEyes prplhz (3) Palmar VisceraEyes Skrammen hiro protagonist (1) stefftastiq out of these people who have voted right now im only 100% certain about one green, and thats myself @Palmar, VisceraEyes, Skrammen _WHY_ were you so certain about prplz - or did you just follow the bandwagon - out of my thoungs _at least_ one of you are scum - if not - where are all the scum? :-p | ||
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i would really like to know why you think im scum - cause it make me more suspicious of you when you actually accuse me, since i know my role - and i certainly do not know yours! but I really hope someone looks at my posts, it might give me help to how i can clear the suspicious others might have. I would rather question how "sure" some of the players have been earlier, both with mataza and prplz - and those players should really rethink how they analyze the players - cause seriously - something is done wrong when both players which was analyzed to be scum show up to be townies | ||
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yeah - the first days i was a bit overwhelmed by en the enthusiasm by the other players and had to figure out and read a little more about the game before i felt i could contribute - in addition it was the norwegian national day and we celebrate it like crazy here :-p I hope we talk again tomorrow, good night | ||
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Very good post on hiro! | ||
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Nice analysis - Wunder has been suspicious through the game - in addition to beeing fairly inactive @Palmar Yeah - its going to be interesting to see if the town are who we think they are when we vote as a whole too :-p Seeing other people voting early this day I would really like to see a response from hiro / wunder as well ##Vote: Hiro Protagonist | ||
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weird! :-p | ||
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##Vote: Wunder | ||
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or is this a part of the scum plot not really much to write about when theres no activity :-p @Wunder sup? | ||
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@Wunder - !!! you should have spoken! @VisceraEyes - Where did you go!? @Palmar: Well played | ||
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Great game! thanks! | ||
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