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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 13:08 GMT
#1530
On May 10 2011 07:18 Eternalmisfit wrote:
At this point, considering how badly the people think I am scum, I would recommend a vigi-hit on myself. I know that I have painted myself scum badly with my bad analysis yesterday and most people are taking for granted I am scum.

Even though I know I am town, here is why it is beneficial for the town to take a vigi-hit on me:

If I flip scum, the town gets a mafia kill regardless so it is a good deal for the town.

If I flip town, the town does not waste the next day trying to lynch me instead of focusing on other scum. Even as town, my reads have been bad and this flip won't be too detrimental on the town. Also, unless it is confirmed that I am town tonight, my analysis/posts will most likely be perceived as scum trying to distract attention on someone.

A DT check on me would not work since chaoser is almost guaranteed to be role-blocked. And, even if there is another DT, he shouldn't claim once he gets a town role-check on me since that would make him vulnerable to mafia kill the night after.

The only con would be losing the vigi-hit when I flip town but in place of that vigi-hit you get a chance to focus on finding scum and lynch mafia the upcoming day.


Ok Eternal, explain me something about this post. First let's agree on one thing. You are either town or mafia right?
Now at this moment we were torn between a hit on you or GGQ.
Explain to me from a town perspective how this post makes sense. Why hitting you instead of GGQ is benefical for the town?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 13:10 GMT
#1531
EBWOP: That should read at the moment of this post
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 13:14 GMT
#1533
Another question to you about dropbear analysis on elmizzt:
DropBear said he believed you to be town. In his analysis he says the connection between elmizzt and you make elmizzt suspicious.
There are several other incosistencies on DB analysis.
Do you think he was being intencionally misleading?
What are your main suspects right now?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 13:16 GMT
#1534
@Imprevious Hey you just arrived and you are probably well rested. =) Could you please post a list with your main suspects and provide explanation?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 14:05 GMT
#1541
Ok I looked at ilovejonn's posts and the only one that has major content is his acusation on EternalMisfit which I recommend everyone to read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&currentpage=42#825
Which is pretty solid. But also kind of contradictory with his option of not voting Amber, given the fact that amber was "appearing to be contruibuting" the same way EM was in his analysis. The main reason I believe ilovejonn to be town is because I believe EM to be scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1543
@Eternal
Please do it. I'm looking at each player individually now and any adicional analysis will help. Also could you please read ilovejonn's analysis and post some form of defense?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 14:15 GMT
#1544
@impervious can you please do an analysis on kita then?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 15:34 GMT
#1549
@Forumite
Fucking nice find about dropbear. For me that make's him the most obvious scum of all.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 15:39 GMT
#1551
@dropbear that does not mean anything. Setups are balanced around both number of players AND power roles for each side.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 16:03 GMT
#1556
He's saying ilovejonn.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 16:12 GMT
#1558
Ok I just realized noone else claimed RB and dropbear could have assumed there was only one roleblocker from there. I still thing there's a high chance he is scum, but atm EM looks like the most likely.
I'm back to voting EM lol.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 16:47 GMT
#1566
@DropBear you are not tied with EM. Those posts from GGQ are interesting for sure and made me reconsider.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 16:50 GMT
#1567
@Forumite Depends. If I was in EM's position being mafia, I probably would make a case against another member so if I actually got lynched my buddy would have a better chance. It does not mean anything.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#1569
Go back in the thread and look at EM's analysis on me. He had the thing ready and was waiting for me to post mine just to post his.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 17:08 GMT
#1572
DropBear, did you read the analysis ilovejonn's made on EM? I posted a link to it some posts ago.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#1574
I can see how ilovejonn can be scum and his analysis of EM and explanation for not voting for Amber are quite contradictory indeed. The thing is I'm having a hard time actually seeing a scenario where Eternal is not scum.

sinani206 is either from another planet or scum. Either way he is useless. If he is not mafia, mafia is certanly not getting rid of him for us. We are going to have to lynch him sooner or later, but today is a very important day, since if we kill mafia their kp gets reduced.

@Imprevious I've read all kita's posts and I'm not in the slightest confident in calling him scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 18:03 GMT
#1582
Cth is definitevely town. The voting was very close and the only thing that made amber get lynched instead of Cth was chaoser's claim. Thus, Cth is town.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 19:06 GMT
#1595
Ok I just read my pm and the OP. Nowhere in the op is the word vanilla. I guess I must be wrong about EM.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 19:10 GMT
#1596
Fuck no, Dropbear claimed before him. LOL. Ok
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 19:12 GMT
#1598
Alright, unless node allow for a full pm reveal from EM, I'm keeping my vote on him. No one else should post their role pm. I will compare it to mine and see if it's forealz.
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