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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 09 2011 22:43 GMT
#1427
Yeah, Eternal, just keep contributing and analysing. Of the three on chaoser's list, I'm the least confident about you. Your analyses have seemed similar to what you were doing in Surprisingly Normal, and you were town in that one, IIRC. Being wrong doesn't mean you're scum. I'd like to see Chaoser's reason for FoSing you, actually.

Martyring yourself is not the answer.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 01:12 GMT
#1430
Make analysis. I"m not going to call you scum for it. I might call you scum anyways, but not because you post analysis.

If you don't, i'm definitely going to call you scum.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 01:44 GMT
#1434
On May 10 2011 10:36 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 10:12 Varpulis wrote:
Make analysis. I"m not going to call you scum for it. I might call you scum anyways, but not because you post analysis.

If you don't, i'm definitely going to call you scum.


Wtf, this post hardly makes any sense. Why would you call him scum, then?

If I analyze him and determine that he's scummy, I'll call him scum. I was simply stating that him posting his analysis would not be a contributing factor in me calling him scum, as long as the analysis is good.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 03:04 GMT
#1442
lol.

chaoser's got some major balls with the fake dt claim. My guess is that the medics ignored our requests to protect him and mafia double-stacked.

What the hell was GGQ thinking?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#1446
^agree. Lynching another scum today would be huge, because that'd lower the kp down to 1.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 03:32 GMT
#1456
On May 10 2011 12:26 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why do you guys want the vig to claim? Putting himself out there is pretty close to suicide. Our medics won't even protect an obv blue, so doing that is just asking to get killed by scum.

Claiming vig after the shot is like claiming townie. it doesn't make you any more of a target.

Oh yeah, and I'm tending to agree that we don't have any medics. It's either that or the medics are incredibly stupid.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 10 2011 03:47 GMT
#1458
I'll make sure to try my best to help us win, but for now I am going to bed.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Night all!
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 00:13 GMT
#1625
I'm getting a null-read from Eternalmisfit. He's either a scum trying really hard to appear pro-town or a townie genuinely trying to contribute, but I really can't tell which. I'll keep an eye on him, but I hesitate to lynch him, because he's at least trying to contribute, or at least seem like contributing. After glancing over some of his analyses, they look pretty good (better than mine anyways, and those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones)

About the other two prime suspects: I think that Sinani206 is definitely a stronger lynch than ilovejohn.

I've got a town read on Dropbear, because he pointed out all of the times he's been wrong. That's a really stupid thing for scum to do, and he doesn't seem like a stupid guy. Not sure though.


Sinani206

He has literally three posts that are not 1/2 liners or jokes/trolling.

+ Show Spoiler [post 1] +
On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote:
OK, back from practice.

+ Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +

He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.


+ Show Spoiler [Chaoser] +

Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.


+ Show Spoiler [Jackal58] +

Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.


+ Show Spoiler [Irish_Punk13] +

May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.


+ Show Spoiler [AirbladeOrange] +

Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.


+ Show Spoiler [Cthsazsa] +

Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.


+ Show Spoiler [Forumite] +

Very analytical, no aggressiveness.


+ Show Spoiler [Others] +

Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!


What does he say here?
  • Redtooth might be scum because he pressured Irish_Punk13. This seems slightly scummy in hindsight because Punk was scum.
  • Chaoser scum for being quiet after being very active. I'm not going to call Sinani scum for being wrong, but this is also strange (Nobody is watching/posting in the thread 24/7)
  • Defends Irish_Punk13, saying that he's probably just new. He promises to discuss him further, but never does.
  • Calls ABO scummy/suspicious without giving a reason.
  • Calls Forumite analytical (not disputing, just reporting. I haven't looked through forumite's posts yet)

I this post just feels overall off to me. The defense of Irish + the suspicion of Chaoser/redtooth (confirmed vet/likely townie) and agreeing making suggestions of who to lynch without giving good reasons (1 sentence is not a good reason) compound to make this post seem... off.

+ Show Spoiler [post 2] +
On May 05 2011 10:51 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 10:46 chaoser wrote:
On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote:
OK, back from practice.

+ Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +

He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.


+ Show Spoiler [Chaoser] +

Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.


+ Show Spoiler [Jackal58] +

Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.


+ Show Spoiler [Irish_Punk13] +

May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.


+ Show Spoiler [AirbladeOrange] +

Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.


+ Show Spoiler [Cthsazsa] +

Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.


+ Show Spoiler [Forumite] +

Very analytical, no aggressiveness.


+ Show Spoiler [Others] +

Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!


So...nobody else stood out except those that you looked at but then you voted for someone that didn't stand out for you and not the one you have marked down as "Possible vote right here" (AO)

On May 05 2011 10:39 sinani206 wrote:
##Vote: Kurumi


Huh? I'm confused by your actions. Please explain.


Oh sorry, did I not include Kurumi in my post? He was in the Word document.
Here he is:
+ Show Spoiler [Kurumi] +

Very analytical, but at the same time, very aggressive. He doesn't give up. This causes me to believe he is a member of the Mafia. I will be voting for him today,

Calls Kurumi very analytical (wtf), but says that aggressiveness and persistence mean that Kurumi is scum, so he'll vote for him. I'm not calling him scum because he was wrong, but he gave a really half-assed reason for the vote. Seems to me like a mafia trying to join the bandwagon.

Upon looking through his posts again, I found a reason for the vote. It's a 1 liner, so I skipped over it originally
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2011 11:41 sinani206 wrote:
Kurumi has just been generally unhelpful and detrimental to the town. Must I say more?
I don't think this is a very good reason either, because it's pretty much just parroting what everybody else was saying, but with less effort, but I'll let you guys judge that.

+ Show Spoiler [post 3] +
[QUOTE]On May 08 2011 23:51 sinani206 wrote:
Lyter
chaos13
kevconsim
Takuna
Beneather

This is the list of people that have not contributed to day 2.
At least some of the scum must hide in the inactives.
Kevconsim was a replacement for Rising_Phoneix, who did not even vote on day 1.
Rising_Phoenix is an extreme case of inactivity, which is a scumtell.
Kevconsim has inherited his role and is doing the same thing.
This is VERY suspicious.
As such, my vote is for kevconsim unless he starts posting some useful stuff and voting.

##Vote: kevconsim

Who do you think is scum, kev?

3/5 of the people on that list were green/blue. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the other two probably are as well. He leaves Irish_Punk13 off that list quite conveniently.

That wraps it up. Those are seriously Sinani206's only quality posts. He's lurking loudly and not contributing, and that screams scum to me. Add that to the fact that he his only real posts are either misinformation or filled with suspicious reads, and I'm ready to lynch this guy right now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 00:14 GMT
#1626
On May 11 2011 08:50 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 08:42 Eternalmisfit wrote:In any case, quite a few people are missing from thread completely today and I would like to hear their opinion/take on the discussion. Them being: VarpuliS, Kenpachi, jaminz, Conversion, and sinani.
Staying silent now is the most anti-town thing you can do. Start posting.

How's that for posting? btw i got the mods to change my name, so there's no longer a capital "s." Didn't Kenpachi claim vigi?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 00:34 GMT
#1629
On May 11 2011 09:22 Cthsazsa wrote:
@Varpulis, yup he claimed responsible.

What does "claimed responsible" mean? Do you mean he claimed that he was responsible for the hit on GGQ?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 03:33 GMT
#1635
Interesting points, kitaman. I'm not entirely convinced about ilovejohn, but jaminz is definitely a suspicious character. What do you think about sinani206?


and now, a random poem about how the thread died for a few hours.
+ Show Spoiler [poem] +
The thread is dead, and I do mourn,
for too soon was it's life spent,
too soon it's life adjourned,
and to an early grave it went.

At times, it was derailed,
and so redtooth did cry.
But in our confusion,
scumslips flew like flies.

six scum began amongst us,
six devious deceitful demons.
though four hast yet escaped us,
the rest, they could not flee.

I plead that thou shalt be reborn
so we might begin to hunt once more
to post and read and think,
so we might catch those final four.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 03:37 GMT
#1637
lol, I fail.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 03:39 GMT
#1638
actually, I'm going to call that intentional, because it makes it rhyme. /end derailment.

Let's talk about who's scum and who's not instead of my terrible poetry.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 04:06 GMT
#1642
On May 11 2011 12:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 12:39 Varpulis wrote:
actually, I'm going to call that intentional, because it makes it rhyme. /end derailment.

Let's talk about who's scum and who's not instead of my terrible poetry.


If I find out that you wrote the poem to intentionally have someone point out that you forgot the number of remaining mafia then I'm really going to hate you :p

lol no. I think I mentioned before that I can't count when i'm tired.
/end derailment
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 04:38 GMT
#1644
@Conversion what about the other suspects? Specifically Sinani, EM, and ilovejohn. We need to decide who to lynch today.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 05:11 GMT
#1646
Alright then. I think we should lynch Sinani today, for reasons I've already stated. EM has been much more active with his posting and analysis, and I suggest we let him continue doing that. If nothing else, it'll give us more ammunition if we ever need to push a lynch on him later. The others (Sinani especially) haven't been giving us the same amount/quality of content.

I'm off to sleep. I'll see you guys tomorrow, possibly with a fake dt claim to convince you about Sinani with 10 minutes until the lynch.

Note: disregard anything nonsensical in this post. I'm not thinking straight right now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 20:27 GMT
#1681
On May 12 2011 03:51 sinani206 wrote:
My situation is similar to Airblade's.
I guess I'll vote EternalMisfit as well, as there seems to be more proof that he is scum than anyone else. Also, he was one of the people that voted for me.
I have practice tonight and then an application interview so might not get home until 9:00 PDT.
If I get home before 8:00 though, then I might change my vote depending on any new developments.
But for now,
##Vote EternalMisfit

An OMGUS vote, (and joining a bandwagon) excuses for not posting, and ignoring completely the accusations against you. Great contributions. Why aren't we lynching this guy yet?

I'm still not sold on EM, but if he does flip town, we can safely lynch ilovejohn tomorrow, so a mislynch wouldn't be all bad. I still prefer Sinani, though.

Everybody should put their vote on either Sinani or EM. Don't just vote for somebody, make a quality post explaining
  • Why you voted for the player that you voted for
  • Why the player you voted for is more likely to be scum than the other player.
Don't just join the bandwagon by saying "there's a lot of evidence and stuff."
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 20:29 GMT
#1682
shit, 7 on EM? There's scum in that bandwagon, I'm sure of it. At least 1, maybe 2 if he's town.

Redtooth, where art thou?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 20:49 GMT
#1687
I'm not hardcore against EM's lynch, I'm just less confident that he's scum than I am about Sinani. There are scum on that wagon no matter what EM flips is what I'm saying. Its worth taking a look at those who joined the bandwagon after it got rolling ((3rd/4th+ person to vote for him) and the people who didn't sufficiently explain why.

@forumite why are you concerned that people are voting for Sinani?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#1691
Fine, it's not OMGUS. It's still joining a bandwagon without giving a real reason. "There's some evidence and stuff" is not a reason, at least not a good one.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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