EPTTL Mafia XXXIX - Page 2
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@redtooth you kind of screwed up in the way you posted this, because I feel a lot of people will opose this because of ego alone, so it will be harder to get a read on them. | ||
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2)I agree that quoting a lot of posts is sometimes detrimental to the analysis, because you run the risk of fooling yourself into forcing every single post a person's made to look scummy in some way, but if a player has made 6 posts that really make your case more solid and convincing, I see no reason to not quote them. 3)The problem is not everyone is present on the thread at a certain point in time. I sugest you change this to: Your analysis will be adressed by everybody (everybody present will be encouraged to post their opinion on it) when it reachs 3 sponsors. I feel like this is a way better to do this. 4)In the end of the day, good analysis is good analysis. If the person is making a sincere effort of trying to make a strong and quality analysis, but did not follow the standard X for whatever reason, it's just wrong (and pretty much impossible) to disregard it based on policy. | ||
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@redtooth I don't play this game professionally and the whole point of playing mafia for me is having fun, else I wouldn't be playing it. I can pretty much guarantee that everyone else here feels the same way. I don't know why you are assuming everyone here is not having fun. I for sure am. If people were not having fun they would not be posting here, they would just ask for sub. | ||
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Alright, I will ask you again: Is your goal to have most of the people follow this guideline? If so, make them more reasonable. If it stays as it is, I will particulary not follow some of them. You will see that most vets will not as well. If some of the people that adhered to your guidelines disregard analysis done by the people that don't, that's a net loss for town. What's your true intention in making those guide lines? Construct them in a way that really tries to reach your goal. | ||
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There were some people defending kurumi, but none of them came out so strong, to the point of calling him obvtown, except for red. In the same post he sugests we should change to killerSOS, who had hinted blue at that point. I feel if he was such a great analitical mind that could see that obviously kurumi wasn't scum, he would have noticed that killer could be blue, and advocating his lynch on day 1 was a dumb move, unless you are mafia. Then the post claiming not to know scum could pm amongst themselves. Again, if you are so experienced to the point of knowing kurumi was obvtown at that point, wouldn't you know that scum can exchange pm in this type of setup? It seems to me like a blatant atempt to look inocent. Then he goes ahead and makes that post that says town is sucking and says only himself, jackal and iadnai have defended kurumi. So tonight the kills were jackal and aidnai, none of which were defending kururmi with such certainty as himself. Those kills pretty much draw suspicion away from him. It looks too much like a plan. I don't see any reason for mafia having to snipe jackal and aidnai, based on their posting. That's the only purpose I can think of for them. He then posts his plan about organizing town. So I play along trying to find his true intentions behind it. If he was really trying to reduce spam and improve thread quality, he would be more flexible and make those a guideline, not a rule. I pressed him to change it and provided good reasoning and yet he refused to change his mind. As I've stated most likely only a few will follow those guidelines as they are presented, and that would slip town even more, and cause good analysis to be disregarded and random fos to be thrown around for a group of people. He then, states he's tired from arguing with chaoser (huh?) and goes away. I believe his plan was to split town all along. | ||
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I think we should save the redtooth discussion for another day and focus on the more obvious ones, like cthsazsa, irish and amber. Seriously Amber[Light], how hard is it to give an opinion on something instead of listing all the possible scenarios? Your posts are extremelly filled with fluff and very defensive. Your huge ass response for chaoser FoS was not needed at all. All I can read from your post is I'm a great scum hunter, you shouldn't kill me now because I'll have all scum on day 3. Also in this post: On May 07 2011 07:48 Amber[LighT] wrote: Once day hits I'm going to post a bit more on the Kurumi aftermath. I just want everyone to be aware that we should not be in panic mode at this point. Mafia wants us to be fighting, trust me it's so easy when mafia can just sit back and relax while the town self-destructs. That lynch is going to compound over the next few days. You seem pretty sure you are going to survive the night, don't you? FoS: Amber[Light] | ||
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1) The guy has posted very little, so there isn't a lot of material to analyse. 2) He voted for kurumi without any reasoning close to the deadline. As mafia, he would know kurumi was town, so he probably wouldn't do it. Seems like a stupid move as mafia to me. 3) You think he's conected to cthsazsa and they are both scum, so why don't you vote for the more obvious scum cthsazsa? Do you think beneather is our best lynch today? | ||
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The huge post with extreme amouts of fluff explaining how great he is as a player seems completely out of place. How is that relevant to this game right now, specially since he made no effort whatsoever to actually hunting for scum? He said that in a previous game he pinned 3 mafia at day3. Okay, how do you know you are even going to survive to day3, how did you know you were going to survive through the night? So you've made quite an advertisement of your abilities of catching scum, how come mafia couldn't spare a shot for you? Whenever you post you point out the possible scenarios instead of actually saying something relevant or useful. You refuse to take a stance on anythhing. You claimed chaoser was tunneling you when he first brought up his fos on you. You are over defensive. You are scum. | ||
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I would like to sugest we focus on Cthsazsa and Amber right now (and Irish if he begin posting again). Spliting the votes between multiple players is not good for town, and will give mafia an easy way out. If you believe one of these 2 players to be mafia vote for them instead of voting for someone else. | ||
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Irish is a wasted vote, unless he posts and votes before the deadline, as otherwise he will be modkilled. | ||
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