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On April 18 2011 21:03 Forumite wrote:
Which part is scummy?
What I wanted with the post is for Elmizzt and Vain to actually post their own accusations, if they only hop on the wagon, then they are not helping us. I want them to start posting more, because I get a strong scum-wibe from both of them.
You're getting a strong scum vibe because they're band wagoning and not making their own analyses?
Explain yourself man!
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On April 18 2011 21:03 Forumite wrote:
Which part is scummy?
The part where you're defending people that *I* don't know to be town.
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On April 18 2011 20:39 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 20:33 sandroba wrote:
Medic
You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself.
Does this means the person saved is informed of who saved him, or only that he was saved? You only get informed that you were saved, not by whom. Yes, I was saved by the Doctor, Mafia wanted me dead, and I got a PM saying I was saved. It didn´t include info on who saved me, I wanted to drag it out, see what people were saying, if someone makes a mistake.
I don't think I believe you when you say you were saved. Wouldn't the mafia want to kill someone that didn't have any suspicion on them?
I think that other than Scholeosis and Sandroba, you're someone that the players think is scum. That's of course unless the people FoSing you are scum.
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On April 18 2011 22:12 Forumite wrote:
I am one of the probable Townies, and I hinted that I had something really good that I was waiting to drop, which is probably why they aimed for me.
I would like you to note that I didn´t say I was saved at first. Partly because I didn´t see the PM until this morning, but also because I wanted to lure out the Mafia, and because I knew people would suspect me if I say I was saved. Saying I´m saved doesn´t help much, except if I get someone to make a mistake, like Vain did.
Actually Occam's Razor tells me that the reason you didn't say you were saved at first is because you weren't, you didn't know that when you're saved the host PMs you with "you were saved" you guessed at the wording that would be used, and you were wrong.
##Vote Forumite
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For me to assume that Forumite is telling the truth, I need to assume that
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 5 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 7 Town
2 Mafia Goon, 1 Medic, 6 Town.
2 Mafia Goon, 1 Detective, 6 Town.
That 1/4 setup is chosen, AND that forumite:
wanted to lure out the Mafia, and because I knew people would suspect me if I say I was saved. Saying I´m saved doesn´t help much, except if I get someone to make a mistake, like Vain did.
I'm also not really that swayed by Forumite's analysis on Vain.
[red]Sandroba seemed quite convinced of it though[red] Took him 7 minutes to vote Vain.
Forumite Sweden. April 18 2011 21:41. Posts 74 PM Profile Report Quote #
Ah, I was just waiting for an analysis on Vain. will read now.
"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." - W. Somerset Maugham
sandroba Brazil. April 18 2011 21:48. Posts 119 PM Profile Report Quote #
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sandroba Brazil. April 18 2011 21:49. Posts 119 PM Profile Report Quote #
##Vote: Vain
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On April 18 2011 23:54 VarpuliS wrote:
I just took a very close look at your analysis Sandroba, and couldn't agree more with how contentless Vain's posts have been. Unless he breaks out some analysis soon, he's just as suspicious as Shcoleosis.
It's a close call though. If we could lynch them both, I would.
To the DT I'm going to assume we have at this point: Investigate Vain and Shcoleosis.
Varp, you're the only guy that I'm fairly certain is town. I'm not sure that I'm totally sold on Sandroba's analysis of Vain, but I do see how it can be construed this way.
I'm still mostly convinced that Scholeosis is scum and I would like to propose that we lynch her and if we have a DT, to check either Vain or Sandroba. I'm changing my vote to Scholeosis for now, but if the town feels more strongly about Vain at this point, I'm willing to consider it.
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##Vote Scholeosis
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On April 19 2011 00:30 sandroba wrote:
I would sugest you guys to carefully consider the events of this night before voting for scholeosis.
Also note that 100% of the active players on day 1 wouldn't mind lynching scholeosis and if senj had shown up that was probably what was going to happen.
What do you mean to say here?
Don't vote for Scholeosis cause of what? Someone claimed to be saved that wasn't him?
The second part of your post seems to say "Vote for Scholeosis"
I really do not understand wtf you mean.
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The fact that no one died in the night is strange to me.
If I were mafia I'd want to kill someone that NOBODY suspected to be mafia to intensify townie infighting.
If I were the medic I'd want to protect someone I perceived to be an influential townie.
This tells me that Mafia acted counter-intuitively and tried to kill someone helpful. The medic guessed correctly.
To me this means that we need to surreptitiously determine which one of us is the medic. The medic has information that we need to drag out. It goes without saying that the medic shouldn't out him/herself despite it being a pro-town move, he'd be dead for sure.
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On April 19 2011 00:55 sandroba wrote:
Please consider who got saved tonight. I agree completely with all analysis done so far on scholeosis, and feel that he has looked pretty scummy. Except during the night, when he looked pretty much like a frustated newbie, who doesn't care if he seems suspicous at all. Compare that to how cautiously Vain has been trying to point out how inocent he is in the analysis I made when he was on pretty much everyone's suspect list.
Vain and scholeosis can't be both mafia because if nothing happend today we would probably lynch scholeosis and Vain suports this idea
Vain suports the idea of lynching scholeosis
Is Vain really on anyone's suspect list other that yours and forumites ?
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On April 19 2011 00:55 sandroba wrote:
Please consider who got saved tonight.
Kinda sounds like, PLEASE BELIEVE ME!
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On April 19 2011 01:11 Forumite wrote:
Zork, I was consistently one considered very pro-Town, and a natural night-kill target. We don´t need to find the Medic to know what happened during Night 1, at least if you believe me when i say I was saved.
The suspicions that come on anyone claiming role-blocked or saved, or any blue role, is what made wait with informing you of the medics protection.
I´m keeping my vote on Vain, he made his mistake and because that he looks scummier than Shcoleosis, to me that makes Shcoleosis Town until we lynch Vain and find out Vains alingment.
Maybe I'm a huge idiot, but I don't see the huge mistake Vain made that you and sandroba have as a talking point.
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I think that one of the things holding me back is that if Vain is mafia.....who else is? I can't see his partner.
I get the feeling that if one of Sandroba, Forumite or Scholeosis is red, that two are for sure.
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I still believe that we should lynch Scholeosis today, if he comes back green, then I think there will be plenty of support still to lynch Vain the next day.
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On April 19 2011 02:47 Shcoleosis wrote:
Just letting everyone know I'm going to be inactive until tomorrow...It's finals week and I'm up to my neck in study guides. Got that? I'm not lurking! I've only skimmed through some of these posts, and I can't believe how many tiimes my name has wrongly showed up in red. I'll try to be on later and give my input on things, which will automatically be interpreted as scum behavior (as usual).
TL;DR
I can't think of how to defend my scum-ass
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I don't see why you don't drop outta school, you're gonna be hanging from a noose soon.........
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On April 19 2011 03:29 VarpuliS wrote:
The one thing I'm worried about: Vain could be our medic. In that case he'd know that Forumite was targeted and saved, and accidentally let it slip.
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I didn't really want that information out there, but I'll echo that this was my reason for keeping my vote off of Vain.
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I'll vote Vain as long as if he flips Green or Medic that we do Sandroba next.
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On April 19 2011 01:50 Zorkmid wrote:
I think that one of the things holding me back is that if Vain is mafia.....who else is?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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On April 19 2011 08:48 Forumite wrote:
Are we back to Shcoleosis and Elmizzt then?
I don't feel like I have enough information about Elmizzt to vote for him just yet. I think we've got more ammunition against 2 other right now.
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I think that there are two main reasons (other than the medic thing, which is a big one for me) I'd pick Scholeosis over Vain at this point:
1. I've had the scum vibe from Scholeosis longer than Vain
2. Scholeosis seems to have a fairly consistent "defender". Right or wrong, this leads me to think that they may both be SCUM
That said, if a fairy told me that Vain wasn't a medic, I'd flip a coin.
The other thing is.....I feel like if we get Vain and he is SCUM, I have no idea who we go after next. If Scholeosis is SCUM then I think our next moves as town are pretty cut and dried.
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