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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 15 2011 02:56 GMT
#301
yeah i will trade with you. i will vote jackal also.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
April 15 2011 03:08 GMT
#302
##trade
Coagulation: 1 food
Node: Will vote for Jackal
whole lies with a half smile
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 15 2011 03:18 GMT
#303
##Trade
Node : 1 vote for jackal
Coagulation: 1 Food
The Lemon Drop Kid
Profile Joined November 2006
United States43 Posts
April 15 2011 03:32 GMT
#304
On April 15 2011 11:44 Bereft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 09:34 The Lemon Drop Kid wrote:
Ok, thank you Darm.

Alright so it seems to me that there is one guaranteed thing that will happen every day:

You have to eat.
Storms/Assassins/Possibility of being voted off are all possible, but not guaranteed.

So with this logic in mind I am acting under the assumption that (and this is nothing new, it seems to have been echoed by a few others) the Scavenger is the most powerful role in the sense that in a single day they can not only feed themselves, but generate 2 additional food for trade/stockpiling. Team Uapixanas, I think our most pressing issue is that we lack a scavenger. I feel we should also quickly get a pm circle going with our ex-marine in it since through that medium we can share assassin suspicions with the assassin killer without alerting possible assassins. What we have to offer for trade is sturdy shelters and/or immunity (Assuming either of you are interested Bum/LSB).

Sturdy Shelters will protect you through infinite storms, whereas food will feed you for a day:
Sturdy Shelter > 1 food
Immunity protects you from being removed from the game (allowing you to remain in the game for at least 1 day, potentially many days), whereas food will feed you for a day:
Immunity > 1 food

Asking for more than 2 food per trade would probably not work since it would require multiple days of scavenger stockpiling, so lets assume that those would trade at a 2 to 1 rate.

If we trade a sturdy shelter construction or immunity for 2 food (one for bum/LSB based on which of them is using their day action for the trade, and one for myself) I can use my day action to get the PM circle going.

Bum/LSB, what do you guys think?

Chaoser/Lemonwalrus would either of you be interested?

good post, LDK. however i'm thinking that a sturdy shelter should go for more than 2 food. because most likely every player will build at least 1 shelter to start off with (and probably tomorrow; i'm guessing that tmr the chance of a storm happening will be around 50%), and every time there's a storm, people will have to rebuild their shelter. so to maintain a shelter in this game will already no doubt cost at least 2 food by day 3 or 4, and a sturdy shelter will last for the entire game.. so once a player "buys" a sturdy shelter, he won't have to spend a single cent on protection for the rest of the game.

if we can get 3 food for a study shelter, we can use 1 food for bum, 1 food for you to start a PM circle, and a 3rd food for LSB should he choose to cheer somebody on for, say medicine..


Sounds like solid logic to me, my only concern would be whether or not the scavenger would be able to scrounge up 3 food for a single trade since it seems like the scavengers are all trading away their excess food in small increments for many small benefits as opposed to one big one. Also the rules text leads me to believe that When you scavenge, no matter what amount of food you acquire you immediately eat one of them(?).3 food for a sturdy shelter does sound like a good deal though if Bum is up for it. Our best bet would be Chaoser since he doesn't have a handyman in his group.

Bum/Chaoser what do you think?
"If you don't marinate your meat in a ziplock bag, you think too highly of yourself" - Epicmealtime
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 15 2011 03:40 GMT
#305
I have a handyman in my group, rean. Here's what we need to do. We need to give shelter to all the scavengers first. This way they can continue to scavenger food daily without having to worry about choosing between scavenging and building shelter for a storm. Scavengers will allow for other roles to do their actions instead of wasting time scavenging for food. What should happen is this. Rean and bum build houses and give them to the scavengers in return they will get food. Me, LW, and Coag scavenge and give food to people. Meds should be given to those that lose a 1 HP. The longer we stay at 5 HP each, the longer it take for the SKs to kill us. We need to keep the Ex-Marine alive as well since he's the most important person at finding the SKs.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
The Lemon Drop Kid
Profile Joined November 2006
United States43 Posts
April 15 2011 03:52 GMT
#306
On April 15 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
I have a handyman in my group, rean. Here's what we need to do. We need to give shelter to all the scavengers first. This way they can continue to scavenger food daily without having to worry about choosing between scavenging and building shelter for a storm. Scavengers will allow for other roles to do their actions instead of wasting time scavenging for food. What should happen is this. Rean and bum build houses and give them to the scavengers in return they will get food. Me, LW, and Coag scavenge and give food to people. Meds should be given to those that lose a 1 HP. The longer we stay at 5 HP each, the longer it take for the SKs to kill us. We need to keep the Ex-Marine alive as well since he's the most important person at finding the SKs.


/sigh, my mistake chaoser, not only did I mistakenly remember which scavengers had handymen in the groups, but I completely overlooked coagulation when browsing the Game Starting post for who were scavengers. (My bad coag, feel free to weigh in on how you would feel about trading food for shelter)

I agree with the idea though, scavengers definitely gather food more efficiently than any other role does anything, so if we can get the scavengers to agree to supply food to other people in exchange for shelters/meds/immunity I think that would work to everyone's benefit.
"If you don't marinate your meat in a ziplock bag, you think too highly of yourself" - Epicmealtime
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
April 15 2011 04:31 GMT
#307
Yay! We won and I didn't even have to spend too much time playing the game for a high score! Too bad we didn't win any rewards. Free meds, food, and shelter would have been awesome... Maybe there will be a reward challenge later...*cough cough* even a small clue would have been awesome... I wonder if Node got a clue... >.>
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
April 15 2011 04:33 GMT
#308
##sleep
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
April 15 2011 04:54 GMT
#309
On April 15 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
I have a handyman in my group, rean. Here's what we need to do. We need to give shelter to all the scavengers first. This way they can continue to scavenger food daily without having to worry about choosing between scavenging and building shelter for a storm. Scavengers will allow for other roles to do their actions instead of wasting time scavenging for food. What should happen is this. Rean and bum build houses and give them to the scavengers in return they will get food. Me, LW, and Coag scavenge and give food to people. Meds should be given to those that lose a 1 HP. The longer we stay at 5 HP each, the longer it take for the SKs to kill us. We need to keep the Ex-Marine alive as well since he's the most important person at finding the SKs.

agreed, i think this is the best course of action to take atm. the most economically feasibly way for people not to lose their daily action due to storms is to churn out as many "sturdy shelters" as possible before the first storm hits. we have 2 handymen who can churn out 2 sturdy shelters per day, and 3 scavengers who can churn out 9 pieces of food daily..
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 15 2011 05:50 GMT
#310
On April 15 2011 12:32 The Lemon Drop Kid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:44 Bereft wrote:
On April 15 2011 09:34 The Lemon Drop Kid wrote:
Ok, thank you Darm.

Alright so it seems to me that there is one guaranteed thing that will happen every day:

You have to eat.
Storms/Assassins/Possibility of being voted off are all possible, but not guaranteed.

So with this logic in mind I am acting under the assumption that (and this is nothing new, it seems to have been echoed by a few others) the Scavenger is the most powerful role in the sense that in a single day they can not only feed themselves, but generate 2 additional food for trade/stockpiling. Team Uapixanas, I think our most pressing issue is that we lack a scavenger. I feel we should also quickly get a pm circle going with our ex-marine in it since through that medium we can share assassin suspicions with the assassin killer without alerting possible assassins. What we have to offer for trade is sturdy shelters and/or immunity (Assuming either of you are interested Bum/LSB).

Sturdy Shelters will protect you through infinite storms, whereas food will feed you for a day:
Sturdy Shelter > 1 food
Immunity protects you from being removed from the game (allowing you to remain in the game for at least 1 day, potentially many days), whereas food will feed you for a day:
Immunity > 1 food

Asking for more than 2 food per trade would probably not work since it would require multiple days of scavenger stockpiling, so lets assume that those would trade at a 2 to 1 rate.

If we trade a sturdy shelter construction or immunity for 2 food (one for bum/LSB based on which of them is using their day action for the trade, and one for myself) I can use my day action to get the PM circle going.

Bum/LSB, what do you guys think?

Chaoser/Lemonwalrus would either of you be interested?

good post, LDK. however i'm thinking that a sturdy shelter should go for more than 2 food. because most likely every player will build at least 1 shelter to start off with (and probably tomorrow; i'm guessing that tmr the chance of a storm happening will be around 50%), and every time there's a storm, people will have to rebuild their shelter. so to maintain a shelter in this game will already no doubt cost at least 2 food by day 3 or 4, and a sturdy shelter will last for the entire game.. so once a player "buys" a sturdy shelter, he won't have to spend a single cent on protection for the rest of the game.

if we can get 3 food for a study shelter, we can use 1 food for bum, 1 food for you to start a PM circle, and a 3rd food for LSB should he choose to cheer somebody on for, say medicine..


Sounds like solid logic to me, my only concern would be whether or not the scavenger would be able to scrounge up 3 food for a single trade since it seems like the scavengers are all trading away their excess food in small increments for many small benefits as opposed to one big one. Also the rules text leads me to believe that When you scavenge, no matter what amount of food you acquire you immediately eat one of them(?).3 food for a sturdy shelter does sound like a good deal though if Bum is up for it. Our best bet would be Chaoser since he doesn't have a handyman in his group.

Bum/Chaoser what do you think?



You can store as much food as you want and it will also go to the grave with you, so I don't recommend hording. Food is consumed at the end of the day automatically.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 15 2011 06:21 GMT
#311
I'd love 3 food for my imba shelter.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
The Lemon Drop Kid
Profile Joined November 2006
United States43 Posts
April 15 2011 08:15 GMT
#312
On April 15 2011 14:50 darmousseh wrote:

You can store as much food as you want and it will also go to the grave with you, so I don't recommend hording. Food is consumed at the end of the day automatically.


Gotcha...what I was getting at was theoretically scavenging as a non-scavenger, collecting 1 food, and then trading that food away in the same day leaving you with no food for the day, or a scavenger collecting 3 food for the day and then trading away all 3.

On March 28 2011 06:03 darmousseh wrote:
-Scavenge (collect 1 food) and eat it immediately (non-tradable). ##scavenge

the above made me feel otherwise so I wasn't sure.

Only reason I ask is it would make it more/less feasible to request 3 food for a sturdy shelter, as opposed to 2, depending on how many food a scavenger can trade away in a day.

Sorry about all the noobie question spam.
"If you don't marinate your meat in a ziplock bag, you think too highly of yourself" - Epicmealtime
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
April 15 2011 09:15 GMT
#313
Since there's no storm tonight I might be convinced to trade my awesome shelter for either 3 food or a combination of one piece of food and one medicine. Because i'm nice like that.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 15 2011 14:38 GMT
#314
On April 15 2011 12:18 Coagulation wrote:
##Trade
Node : 1 vote for jackal
Coagulation: 1 Food



Trade accepted
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2011 14:44 GMT
#315
On April 15 2011 11:48 Node wrote:
Coagulation, you gonna scavenge? We could use your food.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that if you don't spread it around I'm going to have to give my vote to you, because as far as I'm concerned you've been useless to the tribe so far. (no offense, just telling it like it is)

If you do give out food, I'm going to vote for Jackal, as his power benefits nobody but himself and his score was also crap.

At least I had a score.

Do I have to vote?

Cause like I'm kinda limited to who I can vote for.
Life can only kill you once.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 15 2011 14:45 GMT
#316
Since it is night phase it probably won't matter, but I am going home so I may or may not be able to post for the next 24 hours.

LDK text me if crazy shit goes down and I need to borrow my sister's laptop.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 15 2011 15:12 GMT
#317
On April 15 2011 23:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:48 Node wrote:
Coagulation, you gonna scavenge? We could use your food.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that if you don't spread it around I'm going to have to give my vote to you, because as far as I'm concerned you've been useless to the tribe so far. (no offense, just telling it like it is)

If you do give out food, I'm going to vote for Jackal, as his power benefits nobody but himself and his score was also crap.

At least I had a score.

Do I have to vote?

Cause like I'm kinda limited to who I can vote for.


Yes you must vote while in tribal council. There are 2 cheerleaders who have the ability to make someone immune to voting, but I believe they already used their day action.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 15 2011 15:20 GMT
#318
I'll trade my shelter to a Cheerleader for immunity.
You know I'm not the SK.
Life can only kill you once.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 15 2011 18:05 GMT
#319
On friday's I have to be somewhere early, so when i receive all the votes, I will make this post about 2 hours earlier than normal. Everyone will receive a pm regarding their current health and current inventory.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 00:40:46
April 16 2011 00:39 GMT
#320

[image loading]
Day 2





Voting Results:
The results came in and it was quickly and easily decided. Jackal58 has been chosen to which jackal58 responded. "Did I win? I voted for myself to win". Sadly Darmousseh the host responded "No, you have been voted off the island".
Jackal58 will have a chance to vote for the winner at the end of the game.




Challenge
Starcraft Poetry
This challenge is simple, each person must write a starcraft (1 or 2) related poem. The poem will be judged based on relevancy, structure and form, and creativity. We have 3 judges (including myself) who will judge the poem. The requirements are as follows.

1. Post a starcraft related picture
2. Write a poem (minimum 30 words) about said picture.
3. Post the picture and poem in the thread.

You may only submit ONE time, so take your time writing it.

The judges will rank the poems and take the top poem from each team. The teams with the top ranked will win the challenge. (therefore it is only necessary to submit 1 poem per tribe, but 1 per person gives you better chances of winning).



Weather Forecast
There is about a 50% chance of a storm happening tonight so be prepared.



Abilities:
It is day again, you may use one ability this day. See the role description for how to use your ability. You may not scavenge for food AND use your primary ability at the same time so keep this in mind. It’s a game of survival first and foremost. You may trade at any time, read the OP for instructions.


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