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Now to point out something about Kavs posts:
Kav said he can prove if I stole:
Kavdragon United States. March 28 2011 14:02. Posts 572
If I could provide proof that he stole the item, would the town decide that he is scum based off of that?
(I'm not saying that he has or hasn't, only that I can find out.)
This implies kav either:
- Is a Vet AND can check item steals (wtf?)
- Is on a PM circle where someone can make the check (still unlikely)
- Is lying again
This isn't looking good Kav - please reply to this.
Next the Alignment PM I got was the sit tight one. I never got the twiddle your thumbs one. Therefore the twiddle your thumbs one was NOT sent out to all item game players. Look at how it's phrased:
You are just a townie minding your own business. Twiddle your thumbs, try to seem clean or something.
This seems to be a hint that annul is the miller.
However Tnkted claimed to have received 2 alignment PMs. The sit tight one and the thumb twiddling one.
If this is true this implies that Tnkted is both a driver AND a miller???
I don't see how that would happen…
People have been mentioning that both Lemon and I are new and therefore can't come up with this amazing information. Remember that if Lemon is red he doesn't need to come up with squat - his red PM circle can tell him exactly what to do!!
Is anyone going to consider a recruiting role? With this black could still win the IG. However LSB did state there were no traitors so I can't be sure.
Lastly I absolutely have to point out how horrible coagulations play is:
Coagulation United States. March 28 2011 15:30. Posts 4644
we decided if we just shot tackster there would be no need for confirmation when he flips red!
He's saying why does he need to confirm Jackal or Lemon when he can just shoot me to confirm them… What a retarded load of shite Coag….
Ok - I'm off. Let's see what tomorrow brings!!
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On March 29 2011 04:45 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +Then, we have Coagulation's shot. He claims this was fired at Tackster. There was no bus-driver to swap them around, and since Tackster was still alive, this is obviously bullshit. Lying about who you fired on, that's not very nice of you, Coagulation. Care to explain? I didnt lie. i have never been more fucking annoyed with a game than i am right now. i really dont fucking care wtf happens anymore u fucking twats wanna make shit up and not believe me well go right ahead. keep up the good work fucktard.
Obviously someone didn't read that coag was probably mind controlled
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Just read that bum can confirm if he's hit. Assuming he wasnt then i suggest:
Red hit annul and Kav
Red kidnapped GMarshal
Black hit Gmarshal
Green shot me
OR:
Red hit annul and GMarshal
Black kidnapped GMarshal
Blacks kill failed for some unexplained reason
Kav is lying...
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Im just sick of this shit
Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar
This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot
deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar
ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity
fuck you guys you deserve to lose.
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On March 29 2011 04:59 Coagulation wrote:
Im just sick of this shit
Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar
This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot
deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar
ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity
fuck you guys you deserve to lose.
its your own fault. Its the way you post.
You post things in certainties. "Tackster is 100% mafia" "Lemon is 100% Town" "We have a plan that will 100% win town the IG"
Guess what... no you don't have any 100% since this is mafia, a game of non-perfect information. Hell, people lie to you all the time in mafia. You are never 100%, so you shouldn't act like it.
The other big thing was that you never posted any REASONS for ANYTHING. It was just "TRUST ME" "TRUST ME" guess what, this is mafia, if you trust people you will get a blade in the back.
I need YOU to tell me WHY you believe something, or I wont know where you are comming from.
NOW, after all the info. Guess what, you look like a manipulated town. You don't look like a lier, just like someone who DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEEDED TO MAKE BOLD CLAIMS.
Now you are pissed because everything is blowing up in your face. Next time, explain your self and maybe town wont ride you so hard.
But if you keep posting, without giving any reasons for anything... obviously we are all going to ignore you. You gave us nothing to sway our minds. You aren't some sort of omnipotent god that gets everything right 100% of the time. You are only a mortal man, one that makes mistakes, and one that no one is going to follow without reason.
The only reason people are no following your lead, is because you failed as a leader. Do a better job next time.
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Coag calm down man... we cant have you and annul quitting in the same game. We all believe you are green, the people that are calling you liars are just drawing suspicion to themselves.
And tack I didn't recieve both role PMs, I only recieved one. When coag and insanious started talking about the other one I was confused for the longest time until I realize that he had recieved a different one, probably from the mod that didn't send me mine. I recieved the twiddle your thumbs pm.
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On March 29 2011 04:59 Coagulation wrote:
Im just sick of this shit
Between bum telling me to shut the fuck up and calling me a liar
This noname reane or w/e fucking calling me a liar and a idiot
deconduo and insanious shitting all over me and calling me a liar
ROL calling me a liar at every fucking opportunity
fuck you guys you deserve to lose.
So you expect everyone to listen to you, to believe you 100% when you don't have the respect to do the same?
Calm down, quit the cursing and think before you post. Raging will lose you the game, regardless of your alignment. If you want people to listen to you put forth a logical reasoned argument with evidence to back it up.
For the record, I never called you a liar I simply said you were wrong.
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On an unrelated note, I retract my accusation against Kav.
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And does anyone else have a sinking feeling about iGrok's rook to e-5 post? Apparently its a game-related post...
Ruh roh. I think iGrok just activated something.
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On March 29 2011 05:15 tnkted wrote:
And does anyone else have a sinking feeling about iGrok's rook to e-5 post? Apparently its a game-related post...
Ruh roh. I think iGrok just activated something.
You've kind of made me a little paranoid now. I didn't think anything of it. But now I can't say the same.
Though, what do you mean it's apparently a game-related post? Did I miss something?
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On March 29 2011 05:15 tnkted wrote:
And does anyone else have a sinking feeling about iGrok's rook to e-5 post? Apparently its a game-related post...
Ruh roh. I think iGrok just activated something.
He was spamming.
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Y'all need to chill yo!
Coag: people are not calling you a liar straight-on, but you placed yourself in the spotlight, people will obviously argue everything you have to say.
So far though, very FEW are doubting the fact that you're town. They're just doubting the fact that you know what you're doing. If nothing else, the fact that you told two people what you're gonna do, and then shit happened and you ended up some place else, should keep you on your toes.
Honestly, i'm 50-50 about who to lynch, tack or lemon, but my GUT says lemon. Why? Because Lemon knew that Coag needed to be maimed, not Jackal. That's all I got going right now.
Think about it: as mafia, without a bus driver, how can you protect yourself from a hit even if you know it's coming? You can't, not in a regular game anyway. So the other version makes more sense to me (you can stop the killer in his tracks). But, again, that only works if you know the killer.
Anyway, I was thinking of a way to get rid of both tonight, but the only scenario that makes sense now is if we had a vig or something.
There are many things to consider, but it's pretty clear that someone else in the IG will get lynched, so there really shouldn't be so many FKING PAGES.
I'm gonna go sleep, please don't let me wake up in 8 hours to page 184. Thanks.
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Reading through the incredible derp-fest that is the after-Day-Post chatter. It's really hilarious.
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wow annul and Coag rage quitting so fast?
I'm taking bets on RoL roid raging before Day 3
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kitaman27
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On March 29 2011 06:03 Ace wrote:
wow annul and Coag rage quitting so fast?
I'm taking bets on RoL roid raging before Day 3
From: Ace [ 9086 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 11/10/10 09:35
hahahaha oops, I lied about that too ^_^
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Original Message From kitaman27:
Well played
Now about that proposition bet of ours.... :p
Don't trust him, he's such a scam artist.
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lol what? I can't remember which game that was from 
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Ok, I think I'm caught up somewhat. Let's see if I can piece this together:
Last night a lot of insane shit happened. annul (who had ragequit earlier) was doublestacked, accepted fate. annul now needs to promise me he won't ragequit again if he wants to play in XXXVIII.
Coag, you too, if you happen to read this. If either of you plays in XXXVIII and pulls this shit, you'll be permabanned from any games I host. Play the damn game to completion.
GMarshal, who had a pretty solid role, got killed  I'm curious what this "town kingdom" is - mason circle? With extra powers? Either way, it seems like the king is vulnerable now - I feel like GMarshal was the only BG.
Finally, the clusterfuck around Coag's vigi shot that got shifted around somehow, and tnkted's Driver claim, which seems to make sense given how the DT check got fucked. That said, we also need to be aware of the fact that bum and tnkted could both be reds, our blues are idiots who didn't counterclaim, and we're already headed straight to hell in a handbasket. Ok, with all that known, let's look at the facts:
Coag has gun, shoots at Tackster (mostly true? I can't find hard evidence why it would be...)
Somehow Coag's shot moved to annul (true given above is also true. mind control?)
Mafia/3rd party shoots annul (definitely true)
Mafia shoots GM (true)
Someone shoots kav (what?)
Tnkted busses bum and LW (true)
bum's DT checks LW, gets bum's alignment back (hopefully this is all true, because then it 100% confirms bum).
Other shit? I can't tell...
ANYWAY:
I see no reason to doubt bum and tnkted (yet). Yes, they could both be red. I doubt it though, that would require a pretty huge gamble on mafia's part, IN ADDITION to town having retarded blues who didn't counterclaim. So what we have learned from last night is:
bum is blue
tnkted is (almost certainly) BD
bum has access to a DT.
Now, tnkted posts a list of scum with his claim post. He later redacts his claim on everyone on that list except jackal. However, problem: Jackal and Tackster are both in the item game, but only one of them is scum... At this point, I'm almost entirely convinced Tack is the scum, so tnkted's FOS on Jackal makes negative sense. This makes me doubt tnkted's claim just a little bit. However, tnkted's claim being false would cast suspicion on everything we've built up so far, in addition to being just plain crazy by mafia - they had no reason to throw another red out in the open and fakeclaim. If Tack wasn't red, they wouldn't care enough. If Tack was, it would be far easier for them to just bus him, have bum be extra-super confirmed, and just cruise for a while.
So, now we're back to the IG. It isn't LYLO, because now we have a bus driver, in addition to medics! Black has no reason to shoot into the IG anymore. Red has 2 KP. So... tnkted busses one of the IG participants (probably Coag, seems most likely town), and we have another day. In fact... let's assume we lynch Tack, he flips town. tnkted busses a townie in the IG tonight, mafia hits both non-red players. One guy dies, the guy tnkted busses lives, we have confirmed town, lynch last mafia in item game, GG. So at this point, assuming we play it right, we have the item game in the bag.
So, let's stop thinking about it so much. We're investing too much energy into a minigame with ONE scum in it. Let's look beyond. Start analyzing the non-IG scummy people. I know I plan to. I'm gonna look at Insanious later.
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im always around to be analyzed. faithful bodybag Kenpachi
but seriously you guys completely lost me when i was reading the last 20 pages. I think Kavdragon has the most data piled up on him but really, im lost.
Tackster is accused. Something happens and LW is actually the real culprit
no wait Jackal. nono its kav.. fuck you guys its GGQ or Kenpachi. no dude its Tackster/LW/Jackal/Kav.
imo, lets just kill Kav because hes not an IG player and everyone is just so fussed up about mylo on IG players
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On March 29 2011 06:23 BrownBear wrote:
So, let's stop thinking about it so much. We're investing too much energy into a minigame with ONE scum in it. Let's look beyond. Start analyzing the non-IG scummy people. I know I plan to. I'm gonna look at Insanious later.
I really agree with this. IG'll be over soon enough, won't it?
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