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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
The thunder god of the Mortal Kombat universe, also known as Lord Raiden, is a protector of Earthrealm. Raiden commands many supernatural abilities such as the ability to teleport, control over lightning, and flight. A reference to the missing bodies? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
“Kav, take a look at the paper.” I took the paper from LSB’s hands, and right there on the front page “Naval Intervention Ends Pirates Standoff.” “What do you see?” Inspector LSB questioned. LSB is a genius, his methods of solving crimes are legendary and I document his adventures. He asks me this questions, to try to get me to see what he sees. “But why? Why did the pirates take over the fort?” This part along with the empty part is the message from the day. I'll look at it after I finish this Catan game I'm in. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Node
United States2159 Posts
 Remember not to throw out normal analysis either. Though it's been made obvious that we can catch the mafia with the day posts alone, there's absolutely nothing stopping us from capturing scum the old-fashioned way. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
"I'll give the story some good analysis and see what I can come up with." | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:36 chaoser wrote: Wait, I'm an idiot, sorry, was too focused on Catan game, I read it wrong, Inspector is LSB...my bad, I'll have to reread Btw, I'm suppose to be Holmes, just didn't know what title to give myself. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:43 GMarshal wrote: Just a random thought as I read through the different Wikipedia articles, Kenpachi Zaraki is a ship captain (Naval operations?), also IIRC the whole of Bleach had something to do with pirates (I haven't read the manga or seen the anime so if I am mistaken about that then forgive me) I don't think Bleach has to do with pirates. Thinking of One Piece? I'm not too entirely knowledgeable on anime haha. Will see what I can come up with from clues. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:43 GMarshal wrote: Just a random thought as I read through the different Wikipedia articles, Kenpachi Zaraki is a ship captain (Naval operations?), also IIRC the whole of Bleach had something to do with pirates (I haven't read the manga or seen the anime so if I am mistaken about that then forgive me) nope. Im a Shinigami that likes to massacre people for the heck of it. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don't think Bleach has to do with pirates. Thinking of One Piece? I'm not too entirely knowledgeable on anime haha. Will see what I can come up with from clues. Thats probably, it my bad then about Bleach having anything to do with pirates. When I read Kenpachi was a captian I assumed it had something to do with ships as in my mind the two are linked (this is what happens when sleep deprivation combines with trying to read 10 wikipedia articles and putting the articles together with the day post) | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Anybody up on their Lilliputians? I'm going to bed. My head hurts. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:55 GMarshal wrote: EBWOP: I just realized that the acronym of "Naval Intervention Ends Pirates Standoff" is an anagram of penis (sorry I was looking to see if there was any relevance to it all being capitalized) Wtf, I'm changing that then. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
omfg LOLOLOL | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Jackal58, character: Ilich Ramírez Sánchez A.K.A. Carlos the Jackal From wiki: Carlos the Jackal (born Ilich Ramírez Sánchez on October 12, 1949(1949-10-12)) is a Venezuelan terrorist convicted of murder in France who has worked with and for causes associated with communists, Arab nationalists and Islamists. The two targets of the pirate attacks were the governor, and the shareholder board of the East India Trading Company. + Show Spoiler + On completing guerrilla training Carlos played an active role for the PFLP in the north of Jordan during the Black September conflict of 1970, gaining a good reputation as a fighter. In 1973 Carlos was associated with the PFLP, which had conducted a failed assassination attempt on Jewish businessman and vice president of the British Zionist Federation, Joseph Sieff. From Beirut, Carlos participated in the planning for the attack on the headquarters of OPEC in Vienna. On December 21, 1975, he led the six-person team (which included Gabriele Kröcher-Tiedemann) that assaulted the meeting of OPEC leaders and took over sixty hostages, killing an Austrian policeman, an Iraqi OPEC employee and a member of the Libyan delegation. This fits in with the Jackal. He has perpetrated many attacks, and the targets would fit in with who a stereotypical "communist" would target. They are someone in power, and then a collective board for a business. The Jackal made attempts on the lives of people in high positions, as well as leading the attack on OPEC (The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries). They are a parallel to the East India Company. Currently the whereabouts of the shareholder board and the group is unknown. The Jackal, in his attack on OPEC, took many people hostage. This could be why the shareholder board is missing, they are hostages of the pirates. In the attack on OPEC, several people were killed as well, similar to the pirate attack. (This does not explain missing bodies though). + Show Spoiler + “But why? Why did the pirates take over the fort?” I thought for a moment, “Money? Certainly a governor is worth a large ransom of pounds” At that moment LSB came back and muttered, “Empty, it’s empty.” If they are indeed talking about money, then this may be relevant as well. + Show Spoiler + In the years following the OPEC raid, Bassam Abu Sharif and Klein claimed that Carlos had received a large sum of money in exchange for the safe release of the Arab hostages and had kept it for his personal use. There is still some uncertainty regarding the amount that changed hands but it is believed to be between US$20 million and US$50 million. The source of the money is also uncertain, but, according to Klein, it was from "an Arab president". The Jackal personally received a large sum of money as a result of the kidnapping. This echoes what is said in the day post, talking about ransom, and could also be why there is something empty, their vaults perhaps. + Show Spoiler + And at that moment, the wall collapsed onto LSB, and he disappeared in a giant burst of gravel. Carlos also admits responsibility for a failed bomb attack on the Bank Hapoalim in London, and car bomb attacks on three French newspapers, which were accused of pro-Israeli leanings. He claimed to be the grenade thrower at a Parisian restaurant in an attack that killed 2 and injured 30. He later participated in two failed rocket propelled grenade attacks on El Al airplanes at Orly Airport near Paris, on January 13 and 17, 1975. The Jackal also attempted several attacks involving explosives. This could be what causes the wall to collapse on The Jackal was trained in guerrilla warfare from a young age, which could be why the pirates of the story seem to be so elusive, unknown, and hard to capture. What do you guys think? Any other ideas? Anything wrong with this? Let's get more clue/puzzle solving going on. :p | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
A couple of "hostage situations" are mentioned in the post. These could refer to Carlos the Jackal, a terrorist known for causing a couple of hostage situations, most prominently the OPEC raid of 1975. The British East Indian company could be linked as an OPEC analogue, as the second attack was on a "shareholder board". The lack of bodies could also be linked to the way hostages were flown on planes. The lack of corpses could be linked to Yossarian of Catch-22. In Catch-22, one of Yossarian's close friends (Orr) is shot down while on a mission. His body is never found. Later, it is revealed that Orr never died, but rowed all the way to neutral Swedish waters. I think more story would need to be revealed if this were to be the key to the clue. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On January 29 2011 13:57 Jackal58 wrote: Jonathan Swift? Gulliver's Travels? 18th century British Naval references? Anybody up on their Lilliputians? I'm going to bed. My head hurts. I was thinking exactly that. Jonathan Swift was always looking to make it big in society. He tried unsuccessfully to political position so maybe that's why the pirates took governor hostage. It wasn't money they were looking for, which Holmes alluded to, it was power. Also, the pen and crossing out might be referring to the fact that he revised Gulliver's travels many times. In Gulliver's travels, he, for a while, worked with pirates to travel to different lands. All of this though, is only loosely tied to what's written. I still don't know why the pen "being positioned wrong" and the "it's empty" means. What is empty? The place? Is the fact that it's devoid of life the clue? | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On January 29 2011 12:39 LSB wrote: I glanced down at the articles. The pirates had captured the fort and held control, it was a 12 hour hostage situation with the governor trapped inside. Negotiations failed, and the Navy had to be called in. Under the cover of the cannons, the redcoats stormed in and ended the situation. Sadly the governor did not make it out alive. I replied “The pirates are getting bolder and bolder. Good thing the Crown protects us”. “But why? Why did the pirates take over the fort?” I thought for a moment, “Money? Certainly a governor is worth a large ransom of pounds” LSB replied, “My dear Kav, that indeed is the question. ” Minutes later LSB received a phone call. He turned to me and spoke, “Come with me, the commissioner has another hostage situation.” Apparently, it was the British East Indian company this time. Their shareholder board was conducted a meeting, and an unknown group broke through. Currently the whereabouts of the shareholder board and the group is unknown. The police are operating under the suspicion that these are pirates, possibly connected to the pirates that captured the fort. As we arrived on the scene, I immediately headed to the meeting room. LSB stopped me and asked me “What are you doing?”. “I’m going to see if I can find anything about the pirates, maybe they left things behind.” LSB thought for a moment, and said, “Fair enough, tell me if you find something.” And split. I paced around the room and took notes on everything I saw. There was relatively little bloodshed. Random splotches of bloods. An unorganized attack. Curiously enough, I would expect the body of the guards to be located around here, but they were strangely absent. Besides the blood, the only thing that gave any indication of what happened were the minutes, still resting on the table with the feather pen beside it, notes unfinished. Something was wrong, the feather pen did not seem like it was in the right position. As I looked down, I realized that the last line was crossed out, and obscured by red ink. The Inspector walked behind me. “I see you’ve noticed it,” he said. “The same thing happened at the Governor’s fort.” I asked, “The crossed out message?” The Inspector replied, “Not just that. You’ve probably read the papers, but you probably don’t know thing. We never saw our negotiators. The demands of the pirates were attached to arrows and shot. The notes? Written in blood.” Horrified I looked down on the minutes… the red ink… it was blood. He paused for a moment. “When we finally broke through, I could not find them. They were missing…” I asked a question. “Wait, missing?” The Inspector answered, “We never found bodies, just blood. They negotiators could be still alive, but that’s impossible, there is no way they could have just disappeared, the bodies must have been hidden.” And I asked one last question, “So, did you interview any survivors?” The Inspector replied, “No, the pirates killed everyone. And the pirates themselves? They would rather kill themselves than be captured” At that moment LSB came back and muttered, “Empty, it’s empty.” And at that moment, the wall collapsed onto LSB, and he disappeared in a giant burst of gravel. I bolded everything that came raised a question to me. The pirates are the people we are looking for (mafia). Negiotiations failed => indication of not listening to authority or to anyone who opposes them. Navy had to be called in. Under the cover of the cannons => When you read the article you can tell it is in a fort that was at some point invaded by pirates and a governor was taken hostage. What's a Crown? I googled it and came at wiki about union of the crowns. Something about Scotland and England. Might be a good indication about the people's origins. Furthermore How do the Navy operate? I would think it's over the waters on their ships but I might be mistaken. Why call the Navy specifically for the pirates? Is the fort on an island easily reachable by ships or what? the British East Indian company => An indication that this might be relative to the pirates objective. We don't know if the pirates raided their place. Might also be an indication that this was the work of someone else individually? Or do all Mafia work together with no traitor or something to catch us off guard? Random splotches of bloods => Nothing is random. It must mean something but we don't have any info on this. Need to know about this. Besides the blood, the only thing that gave any indication of what happened were the minutes, still resting on the table with the feather pen beside it, notes unfinished. => The minutes? Not sure what this means? The time that has passed? How can this be an indication? How long ago did this raid happen? Something was wrong, the feather pen did not seem like it was in the right position. As I looked down, I realized that the last line was crossed out, and obscured by red ink. => feather pen. I googled history of pens and there were already normal pensils. So why was it a feather pen? Little indication about the BEI. Last line obscured by red ink which was blood. What did it say? The same thing happened at the Governor’s fort. => No negotiations there with the governor dead. So far there are no bodies and we haven't seen anyone from that raid yet. If there's a body means their objective is to get to know something which those people might be able to know but what? If there won't be any body means that the someone of the persons kidnapped is important or atleast has valuable information/object what the pirates want. We never saw our negotiators. => What purpose does this have for the pirates? Afaik pirates like to be famous no? So their leader must have something bigger in plan. Why not take credit for what you do as a pirate? You want to get notorious as a pirate. The notes? Written in blood. => What's the message? Indication of dead bodies but not certain. Can't tell anything about this or it raises my interest but I don't know why. We never found bodies, just blood. They negotiators could be still alive, but that’s impossible, there is no way they could have just disappeared, the bodies must have been hidden. => What does a dead person do for a pirate if they aren't showing it? Indication that they've kidnapped them to extract valuable information. Meaning that the mafia will strike another place with similar methods. No, the pirates killed everyone. And the pirates themselves? They would rather kill themselves than be captured. => what? First they say that there are no bodies then the inspector says the pirates killed everyone. Empty, it’s empty. => what is? There are no recordings so it must be something that could point the fingers to certain people. What does BEI have that can do this? LSB, and he disappeared in a giant burst of gravel => This I don't understand. Why say gravel and not dust. What does gravel mean? Some relationship with a criminal? Those are questions I asked myself. I don't even know who who is yet. But from this you can already get a low profile of our suspects. Important one is that they're supposedly pirates who don't want to get known for what they've been doing. Meaning they don't take credit for their actions. They don't negotiate. Only demand. Seems they execute their raids swiftly. If the police doesn't even know where they are and how they do it. We should first analyse the story more in next 10-12 hours and then the other 10-12 hours for personality analysis of our characters to compare the actions in the story with what our characters would do. Then voting I guess? | ||
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