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LSB
United States5171 Posts
I don't have enough time to edit it into the post, but "Not just that." The Inspector replied, “It wasn't revealed to the newspapers, but we never saw our negotiators. The demands of the pirates were written in blood and attached to arrows.” | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
First of all, the Raiden reference. I don't see how it connects to the body disappearances. If you mean the ability to teleport, Raiden has the ability to teleport himself, not other things (at least in the games and movies, but I guess it can be interpreted). Second of all, I got Kenpachi covered, I watched bleach and I liked the character. A few main traits are: - loves battle, lives for it, but is fair, would not kill people with arrows or a wall - uses his sword and that's about it - is really fast and really really powerful, especially when he removes his eye-patch - has a skewed view on honor, I can't really explain this, but basically he'll follow "honor" rules, but doesn't respect many things in general. Also, if he would be killing something, there would be A LOT of blood around. I did a quick look at the profiles and Gaara seems to be the strongest clue (with the crushing and sand and all), but I didn't have time to carefully analyze all of them yet. Will be back in the evening for more hunting. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On January 26 2011 08:50 LSB wrote: Each day post will be about one mafia. It won't be obvious, but it will be pretty specific once you figure out what is happening. One idea I have for a day post is a Sherlock Holmes story. A typical Sherlock Holmes story gives you enough info that you figure out everything that is happening, and then Holmes explains what happens. What if I gave you a Sherlock Holmes story, but killed off Sherlock before he could explain what happened? There's all the information, and its up to you to figure out what happened. EDIT: The clues will be much more specific than XXXVI. Once you figure it out what the day post is about, it will point to one person, but the problem is figuring it out. This all seems to state that the story as a whole will point to a specific person, rather than there being a small reference slipped in somewhere. This makes me think that Carlos the Jackal is the best fit so far. I mean, it's a string of hostage situations caused by a terrorist organization. Does that sound like anybody else? | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
That last part of LSB about gravel does make it sound like it's Gaara but the rest of the story doesn't fit him as it seems it's all about 1 person and the story fits others moreso than him. But let's not exlude the writer as well. Has that writer any stories which is similar to the situations LSB has written? For now it seems it's either Carlos the Jackal or the writer. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 30 2011 02:03 Node wrote: While I agree that "disappeared in a giant burst of gravel" would seem to point towards Gaara, I don't think the story as a whole fits him that much. I don't know too much about the character, I'm just going by the Wikipedia article. Is there any plot in Naruto that mirrors the events in the day post at all? This all seems to state that the story as a whole will point to a specific person, rather than there being a small reference slipped in somewhere. This makes me think that Carlos the Jackal is the best fit so far. I mean, it's a string of hostage situations caused by a terrorist organization. Does that sound like anybody else? Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 30 2011 03:35 darmousseh wrote: Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. I just noticed that on some versions they block out the blood and on other versions its a bloody mess. Difference between the manga and the english anime i guess. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
Carlos advocates radical Islamism in his book Revolutionary Islam, which expresses support for the terrorist attacks of Osama bin Laden as well as Saddam Hussein for resisting the United States. Radical islamism typically includes suicide bombing. This points to the part The Inspector replied, “No, the pirates killed everyone. And the pirates themselves? They would rather kill themselves than be captured” The pirates are irrational. Most pirates would rather be capture and have a chance to escape. The fact that they'd rather die indicates they are probably radical in some way. Another thing to note is that terrorism and being a pirate are very close to the same thing and in fact an 18th century british police force might see this as an act of piracy instead of terrorism. If you switch the word pirate to terrorist while reading the story I think it becomes even more pointed towards carlos the jackal. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Let's hear some of your own opinions instead of being so unsure about everything you're saying. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 30 2011 03:35 darmousseh wrote: Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. This is a dumb defense. If LSB had never watched/seen Naruto he'd have nearly no way of knowing all of that. And you can just as easily say with any one that "sure the story fits my character in X way but not in Y way" because there are very rarely perfect clue situations. If Node got the impression that gravel was a fair connection to Gaara then that could very well be what LSB was thinking when he wrote the clue. I'm not saying it's you but this doesn't actually rebutt anything Node was saying. The fact that you were that defensive when he didn't accuse you (and actually said the story doesn't really fit you overall) makes me more wary than anything. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On January 30 2011 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This is a dumb defense. If LSB had never watched/seen Naruto he'd have nearly no way of knowing all of that. And you can just as easily say with any one that "sure the story fits my character in X way but not in Y way" because there are very rarely perfect clue situations. If Node got the impression that gravel was a fair connection to Gaara then that could very well be what LSB was thinking when he wrote the clue. I'm not saying it's you but this doesn't actually rebutt anything Node was saying. The fact that you were that defensive when he didn't accuse you (and actually said the story doesn't really fit you overall) makes me more wary than anything. But on the other hand. LSB could've just read the wiki's. There's a reason why there are links of everyone as that is enough to come up with clues about the suspects and Gaara isn't the biggest suspect in my view (biggest is Carlos due to all his characteristics of a terrorist). So far I can only think between Gaara or Carlos whereas leaning more towards Carlos. Neither of them have all clues matching with their characters which makes it hard (whether it's LSB's attention or not) to figure out precisely how LSB thinks and what he means with some clues. I read the link of Gulliver's travels but I have not really seen any indication or similarity in the wiki about the clues that have been given. I didn't read anything about murdering people or bodies disappearing. The only link you could think of is about the 18th century and that it's from the same time as Jonathan Swift. But the place and time shouldn't really be relevant about the suspect as LSB mentioned in his post. So for me Jonathan Swift isn't a suspect for today. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 30 2011 06:46 shannn wrote: But on the other hand. LSB could've just read the wiki's. There's a reason why there are links of everyone as that is enough to come up with clues about the suspects and Gaara isn't the biggest suspect in my view (biggest is Carlos due to all his characteristics of a terrorist). So far I can only think between Gaara or Carlos whereas leaning more towards Carlos. Neither of them have all clues matching with their characters which makes it hard (whether it's LSB's attention or not) to figure out precisely how LSB thinks and what he means with some clues. I read the link of Gulliver's travels but I have not really seen any indication or similarity in the wiki about the clues that have been given. I didn't read anything about murdering people or bodies disappearing. The only link you could think of is about the 18th century and that it's from the same time as Jonathan Swift. But the place and time shouldn't really be relevant about the suspect as LSB mentioned in his post. So for me Jonathan Swift isn't a suspect for today. To be fair to LSB and Gmarshall his wiki page is Jonathan Swift not Gulliver's Travels. Gulliver would open a whole new can of worms but Swift not necessarily so. I don't know how far afield from each persons page LSB may have drawn clues from but I don't see much on Swift. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 30 2011 07:14 Jackal58 wrote: To be fair to LSB and Gmarshall his wiki page is Jonathan Swift not Gulliver's Travels. Gulliver would open a whole new can of worms but Swift not necessarily so. I don't know how far afield from each persons page LSB may have drawn clues from but I don't see much on Swift. I would guess that if there was a major story that the author is known for or event that a character was a part of that it could relate to the character. I was actually looking through the different works your character wrote, but didn't come up with anything significant other than the radical islam part. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 30 2011 06:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: A panda would likely leave a lot of blood behind in the case of an attack as an animal isn't particularly precise or careful when it attacks something. A bear could also eat the remains, explaining why bodies were gone. Just a thought. Pandas don't eat humans? And they eat bamboo for 99% of diet? Anyway, will be contributing with my thoughts shortly. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 30 2011 07:24 Pandain wrote: Pandas don't eat humans? And they eat bamboo for 99% of diet? Anyway, will be contributing with my thoughts shortly. I asked my wife and she said that they will occasionally attack humans but it is a very rare occurence. Even though their diet is mostly bamboo they will eat meat. However, pandas probably wouldn't eat the whole body and would leave a very mangled body left over. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 30 2011 07:24 Pandain wrote: Pandas don't eat humans? And they eat bamboo for 99% of diet? Anyway, will be contributing with my thoughts shortly. Yes I know they don't eat humans. But if I were a mod and writing a clue for a panda bear I'd probably just go the "frenzied animal maiming" route. Referring to bamboo is too obvious. I said that because earlier someone implied the clues made you exempt. Let me make it clear I'm not accusing you of being the attacker. I'm merely stating it isn't an impossibility and it would be close minded to clear you. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 30 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote: I asked my wife and she said that they will occasionally attack humans but it is a very rare occurence. Even though their diet is mostly bamboo they will eat meat. However, pandas probably wouldn't eat the whole body and would leave a very mangled body left over. the second point is irrelevant as clues in mafia games will not function based perfectly on logical reality. that isn't the kind of thing i want to see as a defense. one thing i hate about clue games is there is no possible way to defend yourself from them aside from the chainsaw defense which is inherently scummy. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Furthormore, on an analysis view point, Jackal sticks out to me very heavily. While he's been posting alot, he hasn't contributed anything besides a very weak clue analysis that really I don't even see how that fits to the missing bodies. Obviously there is a slight connection(flight +teleportion), but its very weak. Furthormore, he's often just brought up stuff, but not sure at all. I'm not sure how to phrase this, but its like he's just offering it up and then not actually "saying anything." I hope you know what I mean. On January 29 2011 13:57 Jackal58 wrote: Jonathan Swift? Gulliver's Travels? 18th century British Naval references? Anybody up on their Lilliputians? I'm going to bed. My head hurts. On January 29 2011 13:22 Jackal58 wrote: Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear. I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong. This isn't a "your sure mafia", rather a FoS. Jackal, you said you found clues to everyone's profile, mind sharing that? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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